Can't Reach Maximum RAM Speeds!

[aedan929]

Hi all, I am having a problem with my newest build, I have a RYZEN 1700 CPU paired with Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz RAM, but I am having a problem getting my RAM to 3200MHz. Currently I have it clocked at 2933 and if I go any higher the system will poop out as soon as I apply it causing me to pull out the trusty CMOS reset pin! Is there a reason why it's doing this? Thanks for the help! This would be a waste of money if I can't max it out! But I'll still keep it of course!

 

Full Specs:

AMD RYZEN 7 1700

Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz Ram

Nvidia GTX 1070 FTW

ASUS Prime B350 Plus

Corsair CX750M (oops)

Everything else is Corsair! Except for a Dell Monitor!

[KyleKyleKyle]

Do you have the latest bios update installed?

[aedan929]

Just now, KyleKyleKyle said:

Do you have the latest bios update installed?

Yes.

[Sentryy]

8 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

 

Everything else is Corsair! Except for a Dell Monitor!

even the motherboard? 

 

[Ryoku]

2 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

Hi all, I am having a problem with my newest build, I have a RYZEN 1700 CPU paired with Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz RAM, but I am having a problem getting my RAM to 3200MHz. Currently I have it clocked at 2933 and if I go any higher the system will poop out as soon as I apply it causing me to pull out the trusty CMOS reset pin! Is there a reason why it's doing this? Thanks for the help! This would be a waste of money if I can't max it out! But I'll still keep it of course!

 

Full Specs:

AMD RYZEN 7 1700

Corsair Vengeance LPX 3200MHz Ram

Nvidia GTX 1070 FTW

Corsair CX750M (oops)

Everything else is Corsair! Except for a Dell Monitor!

update your bios, if you already have the newest, wait for further bios updates.  This is a known issue.

[aedan929]

Just now, Sentryy said:

even the motherboard? 

 

Oops just edited it LOL!

[aedan929]

Just now, Ryoku said:

update your bios, if you already have the newest, wait for further bios updates.  This is a known issue.

Alright thanks I'll wait then. Yeah I actually updated it last night!

[Sentryy]

6 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

Oops just edited it LOL!

you might want to wait for bios updates because amd pushed ryzen 7 out prematurely (the motherboard manufacterer couldn't make everything perfect first ) 

[aedan929]

1 minute ago, Sentryy said:

you might want to wait for bios updates because amd pushed ryzen 7 out prematurely (the motherboard manufacterer couldn't make everything perfect first ) 

And of course considering I have an entry level mobo it probably wont be for like 2 months!

[Sentryy]

7 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

And of course considering I have an entry level mobo it probably wont be for like 2 months!

ram speeds don't matter too much but you're still going to see performance increase with bios updates 

[aedan929]

Well thanks everyone at lest this RAM is better than my old RAM! 2933 is better than my old 1600! Especially since it's RYZEN!

[Erbyy]

2 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

And of course considering I have an entry level mobo it probably wont be for like 2 months!

have you manually changed your ram speed in bios?

[aedan929]

Just now, Sentryy said:

ram speeds don't matter too much but you're still going to see performance increase with bios updates 

But ryzen has all that weird L2, L3, and L1 cache configs so I thought I might want to upgrade!

[aedan929]

1 minute ago, Erbyy said:

have you manually changed your ram speed in bios?

yes.

[Erbyy]

*Shrug* If your bios is current its time to play the waiting game. 

[Sentryy]

7 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

But ryzen has all that weird L2, L3, and L1 cache configs so I thought I might want to upgrade!

it's 400mhz of "preformance" 

[Erbyy]

in the meantime post pics of your build! Unless you didn't cable manage well.. Nobody wants to see that. 

[aedan929]

1 minute ago, Sentryy said:

it's 400mhz of "preformance" 

I really just want that best performance out of what I have even if it makes me sound like a noob!

[Sentryy]

6 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

I really just want that best performance out of what I have even if it makes me sound like a noob!

best preformance isn't 2933mhz vs 3200mhz 

go oc and tune your chip to the best preformance rather than worry about small things!

[Erbyy]

Youre good man, Not one person on this forum community knows absolutely everything about every single category that the pc building realm entails. 

[Brooksie359]

4 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

Well thanks everyone at lest this RAM is better than my old RAM! 2933 is better than my old 1600! Especially since it's RYZEN!

i cant get mine above 2400mhz so it could be worse. 

 

5 minutes ago, Sentryy said:

ram speeds don't matter too much but you're still going to see performance increase with bios updates 

they definitly help with infinity fabric bandwidth which can improve gaming performance more than it normally would. 

[aedan929]

Just now, Erbyy said:

in the meantime post pics of your build! Unless you didn't cable manage well.. Nobody wants to see that. 

Funny you say that! I just got a new case on sunday! My old case was some piece of thermaltake tin! But if you really want me to I can right now, but please dont let the dangling water cooler hurt your eyes! I gotta wait for a bracket to come out for my corsair cooler! I forgot what its called!

[stealth80]

6 minutes ago, aedan929 said:

yes.

This is an ongoing issue (to be expected with a new platform) and something I have researched quite heavily the last day or so.

 

Theres a couple of factors that affect the overclocking of ram on Ryzen (outside the normal board component quality) that we haven't see for a while due to maturity of other intel and AMD platforms

 

1) Only 4 board currently support BCLK adjustments currently (upping the FSB to increase both CPU and ram speeds) - AsRock Taichi, Gigabyte Gaming K5 and K7 (Not Aorus!) and Asus Crosshair 6.

 

2) The fun part - Ryzen doesn't like Hynix ram dims - if you aren't aware, ram companies buy their chips from manufacturers, Samsung, Hynix and Micron are the most popular. Ryzen wants Samsung B die dims which seem to be pretty much exclusive to 3200mhz CAS 14 and 3600mhz CAS 16. They also need to be single sided and 16gb sticks should be avoided

[aedan929]

1 minute ago, Erbyy said:

Youre good man, Not one person on this forum community knows absolutely everything about every single category that the pc building realm entails. 

Thanks!

 

[Sentryy]

7 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

i cant get mine above 2400mhz so it could be worse. 

 

they definitly help with infinity fabric bandwidth which can improve gaming performance more than it normally would. 

not much from 2933mhz to 3200mhz