Need help with a non flicker IPS 144hz Monitor.

[ozisike]

EDIT: Okay so im just looking for a monitor with a budget of 300$, I tried using This Monitor before but my eyes COULD NOT handle it, I had to return it. So a non flicker IPS/LCD/LED monitor would be ideal. This Is my current monitor and i've never had anything else so i think its time for an upgrade.

[Unexas.]

3 minutes ago, ozisike said:

This Is currently what im looking at, What do you guys think of it? If you guys have any suggestions please leave some, My eyes can not handle the TN/flicker effect, I tried getting This Last time and my eyes would burn and i had to return it.

You do realize that the first one you linked is a TN Panel... And there are no 1ms IPS but you won't notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms anyway.

[ozisike]

1 minute ago, Unexas. said:

You do realize that the first one you linked is a TN Panel... And there are no 1ms IPS but you won't notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms anyway.

yes just realized lmao, 

[PCMR Ricos]

2 minutes ago, Unexas. said:

you won't notice the difference between 1ms and 5ms anyway.

Hmm... I would do my researches before saying that, 1ms would be perfect for fast paces shooters

[EunSoo]

THere are no 1ms. IPS monitors. These are the best you can (4ms):

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/overall-list/#p=1&sort=a4&page=1&T=4&X=25000,35000

 

i would recommend the Asus MG

[ozisike]

1 minute ago, SCGazelle said:

THere are no 1ms. IPS monitors. These are the best you can (4ms):

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/overall-list/#p=1&sort=a4&page=1&T=4&X=25000,35000

 

i would recommend the Asus MG

This Is my current monitor so any upgrade would be good for me, I just know that when i bought a tn monitor with flicker my eyes could not handle it. I was looking for a 1ms monitor because i play alot of shooters but i prob wont notice a difference anyway

[dizmo]

There's much more to a monitor than claimed response times.

Always look up reviews. You'll find that the numbers are often drastically different.

[PCMR Ricos]

1 minute ago, ozisike said:

This Is my current monitor so any upgrade would be good for me, I just know that when i bought a tn monitor with flicker my eyes could not handle it. I was looking for a 1ms monitor because i play alot of shooters but i prob wont notice a difference anyway

1ms is ideal for shooters, but pehiperals would be necessary, if you don't have a logitech 502 or equivalent and mech keyboard I wouldn't bother

[martward]

4 minutes ago, SCGazelle said:

THere are no 1ms. IPS monitors. These are the best you can (4ms):

 

http://pcpartpicker.com/products/monitor/overall-list/#p=1&sort=a4&page=1&T=4&X=25000,35000

 

i would recommend the Asus MG

I see your 4 ms and I raise you 2 ms

http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/eu/products/lcd/VX2263Smhl.php

[EunSoo]

3 minutes ago, martward said:

I see your 4 ms and I raise you 2 ms

http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/eu/products/lcd/VX2263Smhl.php

I fold

[bgibbz]

7 minutes ago, PCMR Ricos said:

Hmm... I would do my researches before saying that, 1ms would be perfect for fast paces shooters

I had an argument with one of my friends about this so we blind tested two people on 1080p 60hz displays one an ips with 5ms and 1 with 1ms delay. Neither of my two friends we blind tested noticed the latency difference and both agreed that the IPS was better . 

[EunSoo]

6 minutes ago, martward said:

I see your 4 ms and I raise you 2 ms

http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/eu/products/lcd/VX2263Smhl.php

Keep in mind that it is 2ms GTG. which translates to 5ms BTB

[PCMR Ricos]

1 minute ago, bgibbz said:

I had an argument with one of my friends about this so we blind tested two people on 1080p 60hz displays one an ips with 5ms and 1 with 1ms delay. Neither of my two friends we blind tested noticed the latency difference and both agreed that the IPS was better . 

YT is your answer, some people do, if you play a lot of fps you will notice difference.

[ozisike]

1 minute ago, bgibbz said:

I had an argument with one of my friends about this so we blind tested two people on 1080p 60hz displays one an ips with 5ms and 1 with 1ms delay. Neither of my two friends we blind tested noticed the latency difference and both agreed that the IPS was better . 

My eyes just cant handle TN sadly, well not sadly if they agree IPS Is better lmao This Is all i've ever used so any upgrade = good.

[SmashinMachine]

eizo fs2735 can 1ms with blur reduction on mode

[martward]

2 minutes ago, SCGazelle said:

Keep in mind that it is 2ms GTG.

Looks like you called my bluff.

[EunSoo]

1 minute ago, martward said:

Looks like you called my bluff.

It was too late tho. I already folded.

[martward]

1 minute ago, SCGazelle said:

It was too late tho. I already folded.

We'll call it a draw then. gg

[bgibbz]

11 minutes ago, PCMR Ricos said:

YT is your answer, some people do, if you play a lot of fps you will notice difference.

And i would argue that most of the difference is placebo. at the end of the day, when we are dealing with latency in the hundreds of milliseconds, the difference of 4 ms makes such a small difference percentage wise that it is unnoticeable by the brain.

 

 

You can read about it HERE.

 

 

In yet another paper, Physcologists found that perception time was about 13ms. again, a difference of 5ms wouldnt be perceivable. 

 

Physiologically speaking, our response times are on average about 250 ms. This means that adding 5ms to our response time will yield a fairly negligible difference on our brains perception. 

[ozisike]

IF anyone has anymore suggestions for monitors please comment, Im loooking for a monitor with 144hz around 300$ with no flickering, I think the flicker was hurting my eyes.

[Glenwing]

45 minutes ago, ozisike said:

IF anyone has anymore suggestions for monitors please comment, Im loooking for a monitor with 144hz around 300$ with no flickering, I think the flicker was hurting my eyes.

The ViewSonic XG2401 is a flicker-free 144 Hz monitor, usually around $250-300.

 

In regards to the response time discussion, response time isn't a measure of latency, so.... yeah. Bit of a moot discussion. Response time affects blur in fast-moving objects, it doesn't have any effect on latency. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/278610-display-technology-faqmythbuster/

[ozisike]

1 minute ago, Glenwing said:

The ViewSonic XG2401 is a flicker-free 144 Hz monitor, usually around $250-300.

 

In regards to the response time discussion, response time isn't a measure of latency, so.... yeah. Bit of a moot discussion. Response time affects blur in fast-moving objects, it doesn't have any effect on latency. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/278610-display-technology-faqmythbuster/

ahh okay thank you for clearing that up, i was looking at this But idk what im doing tbh, I might just go with the one u linked. ty

[bgibbz]

5 hours ago, Glenwing said:

 

In regards to the response time discussion, response time isn't a measure of latency, so.... yeah. Bit of a moot discussion. Response time affects blur in fast-moving objects, it doesn't have any effect on latency. http://linustechtips.com/main/topic/278610-display-technology-faqmythbuster/

 

 

Thanks for clearling that up. I always thought it was a measure of latency, so thanks for the correction.