Case dont fit.

[Antony Leung]

Hello LTT Forums!

 

I recently upgrade my pc dad. he was using a 10+ year old computer.

 

Now i preparing to let him use this: 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($58.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler  ($24.88 @ OutletPC) 
Thermal Compound: Gelid Solutions GC-Extreme 3.5g Thermal Paste  ($11.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock H170M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($61.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: OCZ TRION 150 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($46.10 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Zalman ZM-T1 PLUS MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($25.50 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($39.99 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link Archer T9E PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($73.77 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $387.08
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2016-10-25 19:40 EDT-0400

 

Everything was good. asembly, installing windowns. install drivers and programs.

 

and the only problem is i cant close the other side case, because the 212 evo is too high.

 

What i do? Cut the copper part of the cooler or cut the side of the case?

 

Image here: http://imgur.com/a/lgL10

When i mean the copper part is this

 

ANY COMMENT, FEEDBACK IS APPRECIATED. 

[Antony Leung]

i know, the cable routing is bad. but at least IT WORKS! 

 

from been the first time i arm a computer. i'm impressed

[aisle9]

Cutting the heatpipes would be a huge no-no for a variety of reasons.

 

I think the better question is why you're using a 212 EVO on a locked Pentium. If you've still got the stock cooler, put that on and return the 212. Problem solved.

[Antony Leung]

Just now, aisle9 said:

Cutting the heatpipes would be a huge no-no for a variety of reasons.

 

I think the better question is why you're using a 212 EVO on a locked Pentium. If you've still got the stock cooler, put that on and return the 212. Problem solved.

I want good temps. no the mediocre cooler from intel.

[aisle9]

Just now, Antony Leung said:

I want good temps. no the mediocre cooler from intel.

Dude, it's a G4400. You could light it on fire and it wouldn't break 70C.

[NeoFrux]

You know, it might actually make a cool looking case mod if you could drill out holes on the side panel corresponding to the ends of the copper heat pipes. It'd be a little difficult to get the panel on and off though...An elongated groove would do it, but might not look as nice. Not that you're asking for anything but "how do I make this work"... I think it'd be much easier to drill the holes than it would be to cut the copper, not to mention the structural problems cutting the copper might introduce.

[tlink]

1 minute ago, Antony Leung said:

I want good temps. no the mediocre cooler from intel.

it would barely make a difference, you would be better of upgrading the cpu and still using a shit cooler.

[aisle9]

1 minute ago, Runefox said:

not to mention the structural problems cutting the copper might introduce.

Like spilling the fluid contained within the heat pipes all over the place, rendering them useless and the computer potentially ruined.

[NeoFrux]

3 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Like spilling the fluid contained within the heat pipes all over the place, rendering them useless and the computer potentially ruined.

That too. I stopped thinking for a moment there.

[aisle9]

1 minute ago, Runefox said:

That too. I stopped thinking for a moment there.

Yeah, I even had to double check on that one, but the 212 has fluid in there.

[Antony Leung]

7 minutes ago, tlink said:

it would barely make a difference, you would be better of upgrading the cpu and still using a shit cooler.

Ok, i would see if i cant solve this little problem i will change the cooler.

[Antony Leung]

Hey @Runefox, @aisle9, i can close the side panel of the case, but the only problem is it push hard the 212 evo. is good idea let that push the evo? or not?

[NeoFrux]

2 minutes ago, Antony Leung said:

Hey @Runefox, @aisle9, i can close the side panel of the case, but the only problem is it push hard the 212 evo. is good idea let that push the evo? or not?

It's not a good idea, no, because it could flex the motherboard.

[Antony Leung]

Hey @Runefox, @aisle9,  here's the side panel. as you can see it already have holes on it. i does pass the copper part but dont fit with the thumb screws. 

[aisle9]

3 minutes ago, Antony Leung said:

Hey @Runefox, @aisle9, i can close the side panel of the case, but the only problem is it push hard the 212 evo. is good idea let that push the evo? or not?

No. Anytime something really just doesn't want to close but you force it to anyway, you're exerting lots of pressure somewhere in that system. Given that the case you're using is on the cheap and flimsy side, that strain is probably borne by the side panel, which will eventually hopelessly warp and look like crap. If you're unlucky, that strain is being exerted by the side panel onto the 212, which is then transferring that stress to the motherboard and bending it.

 

Seriously, yank the 212, return it, get your $30 back and go with the stock cooler. It will not be loud, and it will not be mediocre. The G4400 is a cool-running chip.

[Bleedingyamato]

29 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Like spilling the fluid contained within the heat pipes all over the place, rendering them useless and the computer potentially ruined.

There's fluid in heatsink pipes?

 

I'd thought they were just solid metal.

[Antony Leung]

Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

There's fluid in heatsink pipes?

 

I'd thought they were just solid metal.

They're right i remember someone mention that.

[aisle9]

Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

There's fluid in heatsink pipes?

 

I'd thought they were just solid metal.

Not sure if they all have fluid, but the 212 definitely does.

[NeoFrux]

Just now, Antony Leung said:

They're right i remember someone mention that.

Just now, aisle9 said:

Not sure if they all have fluid, but the 212 definitely does.

Yeah, some have gases, some have fluids, I think others still are just metals. There's a surprising number of ways to do a heatpipe. Maybe an idea for an LTT episode someday...

[Bleedingyamato]

Just now, aisle9 said:

Not sure if they all have fluid, but the 212 definitely does.

Interesting.  What purpose does the fluid have?

[NeoFrux]

Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

Interesting.  What purpose does the fluid have?

It's for convection, think a very small, self-contained water cooler. Helps to distribute heat across the whole surface area of the copper (and the fins attached to it).

[aisle9]

Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

Interesting.  What purpose does the fluid have?

Heat transfer, just like the fluid in an AIO only there's no pump and a lot less room to travel.

[Bleedingyamato]

10 minutes ago, Runefox said:

It's for convection, think a very small, self-contained water cooler. Helps to distribute heat across the whole surface area of the copper (and the fins attached to it).

 

10 minutes ago, aisle9 said:

Heat transfer, just like the fluid in an AIO only there's no pump and a lot less room to travel.

So having fluid in the heat pipes enhances heat transfer along them vs solid metal pipes?

[Antony Leung]

Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

 

So having fluid in the heat pipes enhances heat transfer along them vs solid metal pipes?

Yes. When the liquid boild it evaporates and cool up until it becomes liquid again. and the process repeat infinite times.

[NeoFrux]

Just now, Bleedingyamato said:

 

So having fluid in the heat pipes enhances heat transfer along them vs solid metal pipes?

Yes, because the liquid is able to form convection currents due to the heating and subsequent cooling, while solid copper doesn't have that advantage. That allows the heat to be distributed more evenly across the whole surface area of the copper from the base to the top, and subsequently to the heatsnk's fins.