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Ok update. Microsoft has clarified further. And it is like I was saying:

-> If you have Windows 10 Insider Preview, and you did a clean install of it. Your license remain genuine as long as you REMAIN in the beta program. If you leave, you need to buy Windows 10.

-> If you have Windows 10 Insider Preview, and you upgraded Windows 7 or 8 to it, then you can leave any time the Windows insider program, and revert back to the officially released Windows 10 build. Your license remains valid.

-> If you have Windows XP or Vista (or older and somehow try and get Windows 10 for free), or a pirated version of Windows and you want to get legit by not paying. You can't. The best you can do is the first point above, where you can get Windows 10 for free, but you become a beta tester. As a beta test, or Windows Insider, they are increase telemetry data collecting from you, you use an unstable build of Windows, you are the tester of Windows latest Windows updates, including security updates, which may results in data loss, or program compatibility issues, and be forced to upgrade to the latest build as they come, but you are exchanging all that, to have for free Windows 10.

-> Microsoft says, if you want to have Windows 10 for free, and you are currently running Windows 10 Insider Preview, and you want to get out, and remain to the last official release version, and you did a clean install of Windows 10 Preview: You have no choice to format, install back Windows 7 or 8, and upgrade to Windows 10. Do it before the free upgrade offer ends to secure your Windows 10 license.

Source: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/

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Upcoming changes to Windows 10 Insider Preview builds

June 19, 2015June 20, 2015by Gabe Aul // PC, Phone, Tablet // 0 Comments

Hi everyone, we’re hard at work on the next builds that we’ll send out to you for PC and Mobile. I don’t have an update on timing for that quite yet, but I do have some important changes to tell you about that are coming with the next PC build as we get ready for July 29th.

Microsoft Account notifications

 

If you don’t have your Microsoft Account (MSA) connected to your PC, starting in the next build you’ll start seeing notifications asking you to do so. You’ll need to connect the MSA that you registered for the Windows Insider Program with (and accepted the “Microsoft Windows Insider Program Agreement”) in order to continue receiving new Windows 10 Insider Preview builds (both Fast and Slow rings) from Windows Update. If you already have your MSA connected to your account on your PC, then you’re all set. We’re introducing new infrastructure in Windows Update to help us deliver new builds more effectively to Windows Insiders, and ensure that we’re flighting builds to people who have registered and opted in to the program. Connecting your MSA also allows seamless access to Windows Insider-only functionality in the Windows Feedback app and Insider Hub too.

 

This change is for the Windows Insider Program ONLY, and is specific to how we’re delivering the Insider Preview builds. Once available on July 29th, you do not need an MSA to upgrade Windows 10 on your Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 PCs if they are not receiving Insider Preview builds. You will not be required to use an MSA on new PCs that come with Windows 10 preinstalled or clean installed from media. Some features in Windows 10 do require an MSA to use, such as downloading apps in the Windows Store.

 

 

Getting the final release on July 29th

Windows Insiders running the Windows 10 Insider Preview (Home and Pro editions) with their registered MSA connected to their PC will receive the final release build of Windows 10 starting on July 29th. This will come as just another flight. I’ve gotten a lot of questions from Windows Insiders about how this will work if they clean installed from ISO. As long as you are running an Insider Preview build and connected with the MSA you used to register, you will receive the Windows 10 final release build. Once you have successfully installed this build, you will also be able to clean install on that PC from final media if you want to start over fresh. It’s important to note that only people running Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 can upgrade to Windows 10 as part of the free upgrade offer.*

If you are running the Enterprise edition of the Windows 10 Insider Preview, to upgrade to the final release of Windows 10 Enterprise you will need to download and activate it from Volume Licensing Service Center. As a reminder, the Enterprise edition of the Windows 10 Insider Preview is not eligible for the free upgrade offer and can be upgraded to the final release of Windows 10 through an active Software Assurance agreement.


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So if i install W10 TP, will i get a free ADDITIONAL key? or will it just automatically upgrade for me?


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You will receive the final version in an iso download file to do a clean install. It will not be the upgrade. You will not receive an extra key/msa. The Win10PT will utilize the key/msa you used to set up your tp account.


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You will receive the final version in an iso download file to do a clean install. It will not be the upgrade. You will not receive an extra key/msa. The Win10PT will utilize the key/msa you used to set up your tp account.

So this just means if you're using the preview you'll upgrade directly, instead of having to backtrack?


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So this just means if you're using the preview you'll upgrade directly, instead of having to backtrack?

Backtrack? How do you mean?

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Backtrack? How do you mean?

The preview originally expired before Windows 10 came out. You would have to reinstall a version of windows, then upgrade when it came out


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The preview originally expired before Windows 10 came out. You would have to reinstall a version of windows, then upgrade when it came out

No you would not have to back track to receive the full version as a download iso file.

To get the upgrade version, yes you would.


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No you would not have to back track to receive the full version as a download iso file.

To get the upgrade version, yes you would.

You're not hearing what i'm saying.

 

When the W10 TP was originally scheduled to end, the OS still would not have been out. You would have to go back to windows 8.1 for a short time, and then upgrade again.


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You're not hearing what i'm saying.

Ok I see what you mean but I not sure how to answer all I know is what's in post I put from MS before at the top of the page.

When the W10 TP was originally scheduled to end, the OS still would not have been out. You would have to go back to windows 8.1 for a short time, and then upgrade again.

I just need a license which won't affect be affected by hardware changes. If upgrade from preview or older Windows won't allow it, what's with retail?

I don't know how to answer this question either. Just read the original post link and the one at the top of the page.

Seriously I don't work for MS so I only know the info that is put out in the link posted on the previous page.

Sorry I can't answer better. I can only interpret so much.


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I just need a license which won't affect be affected by hardware changes. If upgrade from preview or older Windows won't allow it, what's with retail?

Retail license you can do what you want.

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Windows insider program has to continue. That is the only reason this is hapenning. The reason is this is the last version of windows. They provides compulsory updates. After a while it will be like a whole new windows..There are bound to have big errors.. They need to field test it. THis is where continous Insider program comes in.. They will get free testers always

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Windows insider program has to continue. That is the only reason this is hapenning. The reason is this is the last version of windows. They provides compulsory updates. After a while it will be like a whole new windows..There are bound to have big errors.. They need to field test it. THis is where continous Insider program comes in.. They will get free testers always

Of course. This will be a more fluid way of improving an OS with out having to upgrade every 3-7 years. Instead you just get updates that have been field tested for stability first, less errors that google can scream and whine about constantly and everybody stays happy. No more reversing an update that was bad like few that happened last year wink wink.


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@SansVarnic Please do link the following for clarification :

http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/06/19/upcoming-changes-to-windows-10-insider-preview-builds/

Once you have successfully installed this build, you will also be able to clean install on that PC from final media if you want to start over fresh. It’s important to note that only people running Genuine Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 can upgrade to Windows 10 as part of the free upgrade offer.

the Windows Insider Program will continue even after we release Windows 10 on July 29th. Windows Insiders will continue to receive future flights as we begin to work on the next release immediately after Windows 10 ships. You’ll get to see the latest Windows fixes, features, and updates and give us feedback. So stay with us! Of course, we’ll provide you an option to leave the program and stay on the final build if you choose: but we hope that we’ll continue to provide you great reasons to remain a Windows Insider.

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After hearing about this I downloaded and installed it as my main OS. I had was an insider and was trying it out inside a VM, but it actually runs really well and very stable. Windows 8 drivers work too if anyone is concerned about that. Windows 10 is definitely a great upgrade coming from windows 7. i do have to take a whole day to install my 600 gb of games though.


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After hearing about this I downloaded and installed it as my main OS. I had was an insider and was trying it out inside a VM, but it actually runs really well and very stable. Windows 8 drivers work too if anyone is concerned about that. Windows 10 is definitely a great upgrade coming from windows 7. i do have to take a whole day to install my 600 gb of games though.

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And...Microsoft pulls the plug on that idea.

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/microsoft-stealthily-backs-away-from-free-windows-10-promise/

 

While "insider" members will be able to use the beta builds pushed to testers, it isn't a full version of Windows 10, it isn't even an OEM version of Windows 10. It should still work as Windows 10, but it isn't an "official" way to get a licensed copy of the OS.


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And...Microsoft pulls the plug on that idea.

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/microsoft-stealthily-backs-away-from-free-windows-10-promise/

 

While "insider" members will be able to use the beta builds pushed to testers, it isn't a full version of Windows 10, it isn't even an OEM version of Windows 10. It should still work as Windows 10, but it isn't an "official" way to get a licensed copy of the OS.

 

Why can't these people make up their fucking minds?

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And...Microsoft pulls the plug on that idea.

 

http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/06/microsoft-stealthily-backs-away-from-free-windows-10-promise/

 

While "insider" members will be able to use the beta builds pushed to testers, it isn't a full version of Windows 10, it isn't even an OEM version of Windows 10. It should still work as Windows 10, but it isn't an "official" way to get a licensed copy of the OS.

You mean they cleared up what the media is assuming.

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Why can't these people make up their fucking minds?

Because people keep assuming things, and take key sentences out of context, or out of context from Twitter, where you can't write a paragraph detailing everything. Yes, they are many unanswered questions... those will come in time. Don't assume in the mean time.

So all they are doing is clearing things up. I recommend to read only what Microsoft says, and carefully read the word chosen, and not read the press who rush read everything, to try and release their article first.

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Because people keep assuming things, and take key sentences out of context, or out of context from Twitter, where you can't write a paragraph detailing everything.

 

Whatever the case, MS needs to find a new team of writers/PR for their articles and announcements. Their communication was terrible during Xbox One DRM fiasco, it was terrible when they first announced the Win10 free upgrade offer and it's terrible now.

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Whatever the case, MS needs to find a new team of writers/PR for their articles and announcements. Their communication was terrible during Xbox One DRM fiasco, it was terrible when they first announced the Win10 free upgrade offer and it's terrible now.

Because the problem is that, it is Microsoft engineers that talk, not PR. For PR, you need to wait for the official release.

It is nice to have engineers be directly involved with the community. I mean MS is the only large company that does this for select people. You never have Intel engineers on twitter, or Nvidia or AMD. Everyone keep their silence and let PR be the filter, and direct communication with engineers for voicing our self is not possible.

But as we can see, it creates issues. Gabe from twitter, doesn't sp2nd a week, thinking of all the solutions/configurations to be sure everything is clearly laid out. He works on Win10, the blog and twitter is aside, and probably done quickly.

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Because the problem is that, it is Microsoft engineers that talk, not PR. For PR, you need to wait for the official release.

It is nice to have engineers be directly involved with the community. I mean MS is the only large company that does this for select people. You never have Intel engineers on twitter, or Nvidia or AMD. Everyone keep their silence and let PR be the filter, and direct communication with engineers for voicing our self is not possible.

But as we can see, it creates issues. Gabe from twitter, doesn't sp2nd a week, thinking of all the solutions/configurations to be sure everything is clearly laid out. He works on Win10, the blog and twitter is aside, and probably done quickly.

I don't think it's an "it's engineers that talk so therefore it causes confusion" issue. Microsoft have been very vague about lots of stuff even in their carefully crafted PR things. Even when hundreds of people are asking them the same questions they won't answer them straight (like we still don't know how the entire update process will work, if you get a valid Windows 10 key that you can reuse or whatever".

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I don't think it's an "it's engineers that talk so therefore it causes confusion" issue. Microsoft have been very vague about lots of stuff even in their carefully crafted PR things. Even when hundreds of people are asking them the same questions they won't answer them straight (like we still don't know how the entire update process will work, if you get a valid Windows 10 key that you can reuse or whatever".

 

Probably due to the fact that they haven't completely finalized some things. It can also be because they want to test the waters so to speak. For example, when they talked about "Windows as a service" it could have been to gauge the public's opinion on a subscription model for a OS. I'm just speculating though.


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I'll Leave this here: http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-clears-confusion-reaffirms-free-windows-10-insiders

 

Microsoft clears up confusion, reaffirms free Windows 10 for Insiders

 

 

Microsoft has reaffirmed that Windows Insiders who clean installed the Windows 10 Preview can upgrade and activate the Windows 10 RTM for free, regardless of whether they have a Windows 7 or Windows 8.1 license. This announcement was made on Friday, and on Saturday was silently changed to remove any mention of being activated unless you upgraded from Windows 7 or Windows 8.1. This caused confusion, but Gabe Aul has again reaffirmed that Insiders who clean installed the Windows 10 Preview will receive Windows 10 for free, and activated.

 

Now you may be wondering why Microsoft went ahead and confused the situation by changing the way the announcement was worded in the first place. Well, in short, they did it to cover their backside. Soon after the original announcement, a number of media outlets began posting stories such as "How to get Windows 10 for free". This is not what Microsoft wants, and continues to advertise Windows 10 as being free for Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 users only.

 

So in essence, Microsoft is turning a blind eye to Insiders looking for an activated, free copy of the Windows 10 RTM, however their public message will continue to be 'You need a valid Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 license to upgrade.' This is great news for those who installed the preview over their old Windows installs, so you will not need to downgrade before upgrading to Windows 10. Hooray!

 

Now, Of Course, this means you will be running a pre-release OS with monthly updates and numerous bugs, but it's good that it is confirmed. 


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