Help i wanna setup more wifi range in my house

[Moonman21]

 

 https://www.upc.ch/dam/www-upc-ch/business/pdf/Support1/b2b-ConnectBox_Manual_EN.PDF

 

 

 

 

can i just hookup any other router with wifi capacity and it wont give me any issue when power gous out so that i have to reset the connection?

 

[Jae Tee]

I'm confused. What are you trying to accomplish? Better wifi coverage, Power backup?

[Moonman21]

1 minute ago, Jae Tee said:

I'm confused. What are you trying to accomplish? Better wifi coverage, Power backup?

better wifi coverage.

[Boomwebsearch]

Just now, Moonman21 said:

better wifi coverage.

 

Around how many square feet of coverage do you need and what modem and router do you have currently, also what is your budget for the upgrade and what country are you shopping from?

[Moonman21]

1 minute ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

Around how many square feet of coverage do you need and what modem and router do you have currently, also what is your budget for the upgrade and what country are you shopping from?

um i was planning on putting a hotspot within a bedroom with running a wifi router as i have no signal in my bedroom, as budget as can be, Puerto Rico

 

[Jae Tee]

3 minutes ago, Moonman21 said:

better wifi coverage.

Many third party routers have the ability to work as a dedicated extender, netgear comes to mind. The trick is to connect the 2 with a cable, from your current router to where you want the coverage to go.

 

Does this help?

[Moonman21]

Just now, Jae Tee said:

Many third party routers have the ability to work as a dedicated extender, netgear comes to mind. The trick is to connect the 2 with a cable, from your current router to where you want the coverage to go.

 

Does this help?

yes but ive had some issue with this in the past where if my main router is powered off due to a blackout i have to reset the connection between the two everytime is there anyway to avoid this

[Jae Tee]

11 minutes ago, Moonman21 said:

is there anyway to avoid this

That would depend on the routers software. Usually you should not have to reset it if setup properly.

[Moonman21]

38 minutes ago, Jae Tee said:

That would depend on the routers software. Usually you should not have to reset it if setup properly.

could you recommend a budget one that shouldnt give me this issue or a brand with a good track record

[Avocheeseado]

A mesh system could be worth it if you can afford it. 

[Falcon1986]

4 hours ago, Avocheeseado said:

A mesh system could be worth it if you can afford it. 

"Mesh" and "budget" don't go together... Well at least not at the time of writing this.

 

7 hours ago, Moonman21 said:

yes but ive had some issue with this in the past where if my main router is powered off due to a blackout i have to reset the connection between the two everytime is there anyway to avoid this

You probably didn't configure it properly.

 

Your primary router does the routing, DHCP, etc. The second unit only needs to run as an access point. Therefore, it only acts as another wireless entry into your home network. The primary router still does NAT/DHCP/etc, but the second unit has to be configured with the correct upstream information to do this properly.

 

What is your budget?

[Boomwebsearch]

22 hours ago, Moonman21 said:

um i was planning on putting a hotspot within a bedroom with running a wifi router as i have no signal in my bedroom, as budget as can be, Puerto Rico

 

 

Thanks for the additional information @Moonman21, I would recommend a range extender (powerline or repeater) to get coverage in spots where the signal is limited, if you would like a more specific recommendation please include a few links to stores that you would be able to buy from in Puerto Rico?

[LstpersonalOF]

On 7/27/2020 at 1:39 PM, Moonman21 said:

could you recommend a budget one that shouldnt give me this issue or a brand with a good track record

Hey Im Also From Puerto Rico and Live In There Also What I Have Done Is Use Ubiquiti Acces Points Around The House And They Achieve Some Good Range And Just Use Two On My House and i have front and back patio coverage

 

[LstpersonalOF]

5 hours ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

Thanks for the additional information @Moonman21, I would recommend a range extender (powerline or repeater) to get coverage in spots where the signal is limited, if you would like a more specific recommendation please include a few links to stores that you would be able to buy from in Puerto Rico?

I Dont Recomend in any way wifi Extender We Bought One Two Years Ago And We Discarted Even On The First month Because we have cement walls that are really wide and signal with range extenders is not going to work 

 

[LstpersonalOF]

20 hours ago, Falcon1986 said:

"Mesh" and "budget" don't go together... Well at least not at the time of writing this.

 

You probably didn't configure it properly.

 

Your primary router does the routing, DHCP, etc. The second unit only needs to run as an access point. Therefore, it only acts as another wireless entry into your home network. The primary router still does NAT/DHCP/etc, but the second unit has to be configured with the correct upstream information to do this properly.

 

What is your budget?

Also we Dont Have Acces to Much Stuff If He Has Liberty wich is What I Have Is Pretty locked down in terms of accesibility and using their own software 

[Boomwebsearch]

18 hours ago, Lesantir_12 said:

I Dont Recomend in any way wifi Extender We Bought One Two Years Ago And We Discarted Even On The First month Because we have cement walls that are really wide and signal with range extenders is not going to work 

 

 

You may just have had a bad experience with a specific model of range extender, do you remember what model and manufacturer of range extender you had? I use a repeater from TP-Link on the 1st floor (main router on the 2nd floor) to get better signal for the Chromecast and phones/tablets, it has been working great for a few years as of now, although your experience may vary on factors such as the distance and placement of the extender from the router, the main router being overloaded, having obstacles, etc. If you have cement walls then you may want to use a powerline range extender instead of a wireless signal repeater.

[DailyProcrastinator]

In my experience nothing works better than a mesh network, I've tried better wireless routers but if you cannot move a router into a more central location it does little difference.

Wi-Fi extenders are garbage, hard-line adapters can work for wired connections, but depending on the wiring in your home this can provide less than ideal results. A mesh network is easily the best solution I have used. 

[LstpersonalOF]

4 hours ago, Boomwebsearch said:

 

You may just have had a bad experience with a specific model of range extender, do you remember what model and manufacturer of range extender you had? I use a repeater from TP-Link on the 1st floor (main router on the 2nd floor) to get better signal for the Chromecast and phones/tablets, it has been working great for a few years as of now, although your experience may vary on factors such as the distance and placement of the extender from the router, the main router being overloaded, having obstacles, etc. If you have cement walls then you may want to use a powerline range extender instead of a wireless signal repeater.

I Have Tried Everything and have spend like 200 Bucks on all of them and two of them i couldnt return They In General Suck And they cut your speed at Half if like in my case 150 mgbps up & down and i was getting like 50 and mine was in the hallway and my room is next after that and the signal sucked even in my case that the router was in the other side of that same hallway

[Boomwebsearch]

1 minute ago, Lesantir_12 said:

I Have Tried Everything and have spend like 200 Bucks on all of them and two of them i couldnt return They In General Suck And they cut your speed at Half if like in my case 150 mgbps up & down and i was getting like 50 and mine was in the hallway and my room is next after that and the signal sucked even in my case that the router was in the other side of that same hallway

 

50MBPS over WI-Fi should be more than sufficient for most tasks even 4K UHD video playback, the more repeaters you use the slower the connection is going to be, that's why mesh networks are better although may be out of the budget especially if you want to reach a lot of area on a limited budget.

[LstpersonalOF]

yeah but it depends on his needs if he needs the extra for working and or content streaming  50 mgbps per second for 4K UHD Content i dont think so my 4k HDR tv Alone Uses 70 Alone When i Saw The options Of Range Extender I Was Trying Whats Best everytime one failed i inmediately replaced it and my ubiquiti system is all a mesh network i have one in the office den and mine even has lan output ports wich im using to connect to my pc and my brothers and have one downstairs on the media cabinet wich supplies my reciever,tv,apple TV And VR PC Without Any problem and also i can have that all running when i have family and friends over at the house.

 

[Falcon1986]

Wireless range extenders and repeaters should only be used if all you’re interested in is better wireless coverage. Because of their simultaneous communication with the primary access point and wireless clients, they operate at half-duplex speed, so you will get a drop in speed and increase in latency. This might not matter for smart/IoT devices, but it will matter for things where full bandwidth and low-latency are needed. I generally steer clear of them altogether.

 

Powerline doesn’t always work for everyone. Opinions are varied because it depends on the quality of electrical wiring in your house and electrical interference from other appliances. If running ethernet cannot be absolutely run, then I’d consider powerline or MoCA a try. But go into it knowing that the entire system is not very reliable.

 

Lots of people are going towards mesh and it can be considered in large multi-level homes, but it won’t necessarily get around the limitations of WiFi. Mesh just puts more reliance on WiFi not just for AP-to-client connections, but also on point-to-point connection, so obstructions and interference are still a challenge. It also requires a significant up-front investment.

 

@Moonman21 - If you can run ethernet from the Liberty device to your room where you can place a wireless access point, go with that route. It’s a much simpler setup that is going to be much more reliable than the other options mentioned above. You should be able to convert any consumer wireless router into access point mode; no special setting changes need to be done at the Liberty device if your ISP restricts customizations. My only other recommendation would be to assign it a static internal IP within your current subnet, so that connections can be re-established faster after power loss.

[LstpersonalOF]

14 hours ago, Falcon1986 said:

Wireless range extenders and repeaters should only be used if all you’re interested in is better wireless coverage. Because of their simultaneous communication with the primary access point and wireless clients, they operate at half-duplex speed, so you will get a drop in speed and increase in latency. This might not matter for smart/IoT devices, but it will matter for things where full bandwidth and low-latency are needed. I generally steer clear of them altogether.

 

Powerline doesn’t always work for everyone. Opinions are varied because it depends on the quality of electrical wiring in your house and electrical interference from other appliances. If running ethernet cannot be absolutely run, then I’d consider powerline or MoCA a try. But go into it knowing that the entire system is not very reliable.

 

Lots of people are going towards mesh and it can be considered in large multi-level homes, but it won’t necessarily get around the limitations of WiFi. Mesh just puts more reliance on WiFi not just for AP-to-client connections, but also on point-to-point connection, so obstructions and interference are still a challenge. It also requires a significant up-front investment.

 

@Moonman21 - If you can run ethernet from the Liberty device to your room where you can place a wireless access point, go with that route. It’s a much simpler setup that is going to be much more reliable than the other options mentioned above. You should be able to convert any consumer wireless router into access point mode; no special setting changes need to be done at the Liberty device if your ISP restricts customizations. My only other recommendation would be to assign it a static internal IP within your current subnet, so that connections can be re-established faster after power loss.

Man I Would Like To Tell U That wireless Range Extenders Dont Work Here If U Saw His Earlier and Mine Answers an when he posted it we live in puerto rico we have completely cement walls and every single part of the house including the ceiling wich for low power range extenders they are not going to work thats the end and point of it really here we recomend something powerful but really u can go with anything just dont go for wifi range extender u are going to regret buying it and it really doesnt work in here 

 

[Falcon1986]

3 hours ago, Lesantir_12 said:

Man I Would Like To Tell U That wireless Range Extenders Dont Work Here If U Saw His Earlier and Mine Answers an when he posted it we live in puerto rico we have completely cement walls and every single part of the house including the ceiling wich for low power range extenders they are not going to work thats the end and point of it really

I understand these challenges as I, too, live in the same region of the world.

 

3 hours ago, Lesantir_12 said:

... here we recomend something powerful but really u can go with anything just dont go for wifi range extender u are going to regret buying it and it really doesnt work in here

Increasing power output on your wireless radio should be done with consideration to signal distortion and interference with your neighbours' WiFi. Anyway, most consumer grade wireless gear have a maximum allowed power output.

 

In the case of multiple internal concrete walls posing a challenge to wireless signal propagation, the best solution is usually to add a separate AP to each room and turn down the power output of each, so that there's minimal overlap.