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Hey everyone,

 

So I've been researching what RAM to use for my system that I'm going to by building with a 3950x. I've decided on a 2x16gb kit of ddr4-3600 or higher, CL16, heatspreader kit.

 

I also plan to max overclock my RAM. With this in mind, I have a couple options and I wanted to know what would be the best for a max oc, with Ryzen 9, and in a mini-itx case.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9y848d/crucial-ballistix-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-bl2k16g36c16u4w

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/w3FKHx/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtznc

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/zcH8TW/gskill-ripjaws-v-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gvkc

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jxH8TW/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzrc

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/xcxbt6/gskill-trident-z-royal-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtrgc

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/tytKHx/corsair-vengeance-lpx-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-cmk32gx4m2k3600c16

 

Thanks!

 

(Also, it's worth mentioning that I don't care about asthetics at all. I'm building inside a closed mini-itx case with no tempered glass or anything.)

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21 minutes ago, Duranson said:

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the 3rd kit

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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56 minutes ago, xg32 said:

the 3rd kit

Okay, how come?

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1 hour ago, Duranson said:

Okay, how come?

the first 4 ish kits are all the same thing just priced differently, so lowest price wins, corsair ram is generally overpriced vs gskill.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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None. 

 

For the quantity of memory to run 3600mhz, probably won't happen.

 

Look at 32GB at 3200mhz, probably be easier on the memory controller to run this speed.

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Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

None. 

 

For the quantity of memory to run 3600mhz, probably won't happen.

 

Look at 32GB at 3200mhz, probably be easier on the memory controller to run this speed.

everyone i asked told me to go with cl16 3600mhz for ryzen... why would I not be able to run it?

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everyone i asked told me to go with cl16 3600mhz for ryzen... why would I not be able to run it?

Ryzen memory controller top supported speed is 3200mhz.

 

At 3600mhz, best bet is 2x8gb sticks 16gb total. Then, you may have an easier time overclocking the memory controller. 

 

Board choice plays a role as well. Obviously the higher end you go, the better tweaking support you'll have. 

 

32GB won't be great for finding Max OC as you've mentioned op.

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Just now, ShrimpBrime said:

Ryzen memory controller top supported speed is 3200mhz.

 

At 3600mhz, best bet is 2x8gb sticks 16gb total. Then, you may have an easier time overclocking the memory controller. 

 

Board choice plays a role as well. Obviously the higher end you go, the better tweaking support you'll have. 

 

32GB won't be great for finding Max OC as you've mentioned op.

i'm getting a pretty high end mini-itx x570 mobo. and max oc isn't necessary, although some oc would probably be nice. you think that even getting one of those kits at stock wouldn't work?

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4 minutes ago, Duranson said:

i'm getting a pretty high end mini-itx x570 mobo. and max oc isn't necessary, although some oc would probably be nice. you think that even getting one of those kits at stock wouldn't work?

Looking closely, the Trident Z RGB is CL16 yea.... but it's 16-19-19... I doubt these will clock up to spec on Ryzen. They might..... I dunno.

Trident Z neo is the same specs, different look. Same for the Royal. 

 

Here's the "B-Die" Royal kit. You want to hit the 16-16-16 tab to the left and querry search this way.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hgn8TW/

 

These will scale well with voltatge. The only battle you'd face is the memory controller. They'll do the XMP rated timings on my Intel rig at 4000mhz. I have standard Red and Black Trident Z 3600mhz tested on Zen+ 2700X and 8700K. 

 

The Corsair LPX I have is lower spec. Clocks like crap any ways. Good for tight timings though.

 

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4 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Looking closely, the Trident Z RGB is CL16 yea.... but it's 16-19-19... I doubt these will clock up to spec on Ryzen. They might..... I dunno.

Trident Z neo is the same specs, different look. Same for the Royal. 

 

Here's the "B-Die" Royal kit. You want to hit the 16-16-16 tab to the left and querry search this way.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hgn8TW/

 

These will scale well with voltatge. The only battle you'd face is the memory controller. They'll do the XMP rated timings on my Intel rig at 4000mhz. I have standard Red and Black Trident Z 3600mhz tested on Zen+ 2700X and 8700K. 

 

The Corsair LPX I have is lower spec. Clocks like crap any ways. Good for tight timings though.

 

alright, would any of these kits work?

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/gqkgXL/gskill-trident-z-neo-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzn

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/6z6qqs/gskill-trident-z-rgb-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtzr

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/kXRgXL/gskill-trident-z-royal-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtrs

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/hgn8TW/gskill-trident-z-royal-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-32gtrg

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1 minute ago, Duranson said:

alright, would any of these kits work?

 

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Yessir. Those are all top kits from the looks of it. 

 

It shows in the pricing! Also paying a little extra on them kits for the bling bling also ;)

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1 minute ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Yessir. Those are all top kits from the looks of it. 

 

It shows in the pricing! Also paying a little extra on them kits for the bling bling also ;)

Sweet! Thanks for your help! And you think I could get some overclocking in with those kits?

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1 minute ago, Duranson said:

Sweet! Thanks for your help! And you think I could get some overclocking in with those kits?

That will depend on a few factors, but yes, those kits will overclock. 

 

A lot will depend on that memory controller, and around 3800mhz, the Infinity Fabric gets to about the average stable before you unlink it from the memory. Typically running 1:1 ratio yields the best performance. However from 3600 to 3800mhz, the only real gains you will see is with AIDA64 memory and cache benchmark so you won't really need to go beyond 3600 realistically. For show and tell, definitely. 

 

Have any troubles when you build, look me up. :)

And build with a fresh OS on a new drive too please :P

 

 

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