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Asrock X370 Taichi BIOS...any benefit to actually updating?

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I've got an Asrock X370 Taichi motherboard running the 2.4.0 BIOS (or perhaps the 3.0.0...pretty sure it's the 2.4.0).  I have zero issues with memory compatibility (using a 2x8GB GSkill Flare X CAS 14 kit).  CPU is a Ryzen 7 1700.  I'm about to add another 2x8GB (exact same kit and specs as the first set) to the board.  Is there any point in upgrading the BIOS?

 

EDIT: I'm actually already on 3.3.0, so this would be upgrading from there.

 

The support page for the BIOS for this board really doesn't lend itself to pointing out benefits:

 

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370 Taichi/index.asp#BIOS

 

That is, aside from using 3.3.0 as the bridge BIOS, then 5.1.0, then a maximum of 5.6.0 since I have a first generation CPU.

 

Ideally I'd like to hear from people with the same board, but I welcome everyone's perspective here.  I'm currently of the mindset of if I don't have any issues after adding the extra memory, I shouldn't bother.  What do you think?

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I'd rather not touch it since you're on AMD, a brand known for updates that cause bugs. I doubt they'll test rigorously for older CPUs.

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6 minutes ago, PineyCreek said:

I've got an Asrock X370 Taichi motherboard running the 2.4.0 BIOS (or perhaps the 3.0.0...pretty sure it's the 2.4.0).  I have zero issues with memory compatibility (using a 2x8GB GSkill Flare X CAS 14 kit).  CPU is a Ryzen 7 1700.  I'm about to add another 2x8GB (exact same kit and specs as the first set) to the board.  Is there any point in upgrading the BIOS.

 

EDIT: I'm actually already on 3.3.0, so this would be upgrading from there.

 

The support page for the BIOS for this board really doesn't lend itself to pointing out benefits:

 

https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370 Taichi/index.asp#BIOS

 

That is, aside from using 3.3.0 as the bridge BIOS, then 5.1.0, then a maximum of 5.6.0 since I have a first generation CPU.

 

Ideally I'd like to hear from people with the same board, but I welcome everyone's perspective here.  I'm currently of the mindset of if I don't have any issues after adding the extra memory, I shouldn't bother.  What do you think?

granted i dont have the same board my asus b450-f gaming did not gain any benefits from bios updating and since you don't seem to have any problems, neither will yours

 

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i would not touch it, but it can improve stability, combability and boot times.

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Thank you all who responded (and I still welcome more opinions).  The answers thus far are mostly in line with what I was already thinking.  I don't think this board will have anything beyond the 1700 in it in the foreseeable future.  When I go for replacement I'll be doing at least a triple...CPU, mem, motherboard.  These original parts I'm thinking will be the basis of a DIY NAS later.

 

EDIT: Sweet, this was my 2,500th post.  That's a nice round number.

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i'd try to see how it works with the new ram. bear in mind ryzen 1st gen struggles to run 4 sticks at the rated speeds, so you'll likely have to reduce the ram frequency a bit. if you find you can't reach a stable state with your ram, maybe only then it's worth trying to update bios.

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5 hours ago, boggy77 said:

i'd try to see how it works with the new ram. bear in mind ryzen 1st gen struggles to run 4 sticks at the rated speeds, so you'll likely have to reduce the ram frequency a bit. if you find you can't reach a stable state with your ram, maybe only then it's worth trying to update bios.

Mmm...well, if that's the case, I'll try the memory to see if I can keep my speed, then upgrade the BIOS.  If it still won't run the memory at speed, I'm willing to buy a 2k series Ryzen.  Not worth a 3k series CPU in this board I don't think. EDIT: Well, looks like a 3700X is barely more than a 2k series chip >_>

 

EDIT: Asrock has an outdated spec page for this, or it's only showing non-XMP possibilities...1700 is a Summit Ridge part, and it says the max it will run even two sticks at is 2667.  I'm running 3200 now.  Or maybe they didn't update anything since the first time they added it, and then have just added new charts when other Ryzen chips came: https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X370 Taichi/index.asp#Specification

Guess I can't depend on specs and I just have to see what happens once I put the other two sticks in.

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Long story short, tried adding the matched set of RAM but not only could I not run the complete set at a lower speed, the one time I got it to boot properly it only loaded three slots at 2400.  I've had a few other issues with this board as well, so I'm punting the RAM back to Amazon and will hold until I can do CPU/RAM/motherboard all at the same time.

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