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Posted · Original PosterOP

Yesterday I decided to add a second gpu to my system, it's a gt 710, but wait, it's used as a dedicated f@h, pysx and stream encoding card, and yes, it's actually pretty decent, but, my question is, do i need to install dedicated drivers for the gt 710 although it uses the same drivers as my gtx 1660, and would you duggest using ddu to uninstall the drivers and then reinstall them?


Main PC:

CPU: i5-8600k@5.0GHz | GPU 1: GTX 1660@2070MHz | GPU 2: GT 710 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480GB & Kingston UV400 120GB |  HDD: 2x 2TB WD Black | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 10 Pro & Linux Mint 

 

Secondary PC:

CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320 A-PRO MAX | OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Server:

Model: HP DL360e Gen 8 | CPU: 1x Xeon E5-2407 | RAM: 12 GB DDR3 1066MHz | SSD: Kingston A400 120GB | OS: CentOS 8

 

Laptop:

Model: MacBook Air Late 2010 | CPU: Core 2 Duo L9600 | RAM: 4 GB DDR3 1066MHz | OS: MacOS Catalina 

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As long as Windows and F@H see it properly it's fine. 


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the GT710 is not going to offer good performance in FAH

physX cards were dead from the start as well


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, yaboistar said:

the GT710 is not going to offer good performance in FAH

physX cards were dead from the start as well

I kow but it can run all time, even when i'm gaming, and for physx, well it's a thing it can do and I have some games that use it.

For streaming though its very useful, I can stream at high settings even when my cpu and gpu are at 100%


Main PC:

CPU: i5-8600k@5.0GHz | GPU 1: GTX 1660@2070MHz | GPU 2: GT 710 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480GB & Kingston UV400 120GB |  HDD: 2x 2TB WD Black | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 10 Pro & Linux Mint 

 

Secondary PC:

CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320 A-PRO MAX | OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Server:

Model: HP DL360e Gen 8 | CPU: 1x Xeon E5-2407 | RAM: 12 GB DDR3 1066MHz | SSD: Kingston A400 120GB | OS: CentOS 8

 

Laptop:

Model: MacBook Air Late 2010 | CPU: Core 2 Duo L9600 | RAM: 4 GB DDR3 1066MHz | OS: MacOS Catalina 

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4 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

the GT710 is not going to offer good performance in FAH

My GT730 takes 24 hrs for 1 work unit. I have got a 650ti but it takes too much power


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5 minutes ago, mbntr said:

I kow but it can run all time, even when i'm gaming, and for physx, well it's a thing it can do and I have some games that use it.

For streaming though its very useful, I can stream at high settings even when my cpu and gpu are at 100%

it doesn't matter how long you run it for, the card is so weak that it will take potentially days to complete a work unit. the point of FAH is to turn around work units as fast as possible and if they're having to wait on some for a day or more at a time then it slows the project down overall. I admire your eagerness to help out but that GPU simply will not be able to work effectively for FAH. it doesn't help that FAH don't prune their whitelist AFAIK because from what i can see there are still Rage cards and AGP cards on there.

 

it's already been shown that using a slow physx card in enabled games will hamper performance, modern gpu's like the 1660 you have are more than powerful enough to do those calculations alongside running a game.


you are better off just running work units on the 1660, pausing when you want to play stuff, and resuming afterwards. you will still complete work units faster than using that GT710


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Posted · Original PosterOP
16 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

it doesn't matter how long you run it for, the card is so weak that it will take potentially days to complete a work unit. the point of FAH is to turn around work units as fast as possible and if they're having to wait on some for a day or more at a time then it slows the project down overall. I admire your eagerness to help out but that GPOU simply will not be able to work effectively for FAH. it doesn't help that FAH don't prune their whitelist AFAIK because from what i can see there are still Rage cards and AGP cards on there.

 

it's already been shown that using a slow physx card in enabled games will hamper performance, modern gpu's like the 1660 you have are more than powerful enough to do those calculations alongside running a game.


you are better off just running work units on the 1660, pausing when you want to play stuff, and resuming afterwards. you will still complete work units faster than using that GT710

it is true that the GT 710 takes a long time to complete WUs (an average of 11-36 hours), for Pysx, it's not that bad, I used it for a bit as a main gpu, and oddly enough it's capable of running some games at decent framerates, it's not fast but when overclokced, (and belive me it overclocks well) it can match or even outperform the intel UHD 630... If you are curious some videos on my shitty yt cannel were made on the gt 710, I really don't suggest going there (the quality is crap and the content is bad).

The gt 710 supports NVENC, which makes it pretty decent when streaming, the encoding uses around 63% of the secondary gpu.

During the day I use the GTX 1660 for f@h but I use the gt 710 during the night, it's dead silent and it consumes little power (my room is small and it gets realy hot just because of the pc)


Main PC:

CPU: i5-8600k@5.0GHz | GPU 1: GTX 1660@2070MHz | GPU 2: GT 710 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480GB & Kingston UV400 120GB |  HDD: 2x 2TB WD Black | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 10 Pro & Linux Mint 

 

Secondary PC:

CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320 A-PRO MAX | OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Server:

Model: HP DL360e Gen 8 | CPU: 1x Xeon E5-2407 | RAM: 12 GB DDR3 1066MHz | SSD: Kingston A400 120GB | OS: CentOS 8

 

Laptop:

Model: MacBook Air Late 2010 | CPU: Core 2 Duo L9600 | RAM: 4 GB DDR3 1066MHz | OS: MacOS Catalina 

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Don’t see that card helping a stream. Given the huge improvement in encoders. Prolly bringing the quality down quite a bit. 


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Posted · Original PosterOP
1 minute ago, Mick Naughty said:

Don’t see that card helping a stream. Given the huge improvement in encoders. Prolly bringing the quality down quite a bit. 

it does, but not much... on the upside I don't need to activate vsync or cap the framerate to stream at 60 fps and 6000kb/s


Main PC:

CPU: i5-8600k@5.0GHz | GPU 1: GTX 1660@2070MHz | GPU 2: GT 710 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480GB & Kingston UV400 120GB |  HDD: 2x 2TB WD Black | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 10 Pro & Linux Mint 

 

Secondary PC:

CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320 A-PRO MAX | OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Server:

Model: HP DL360e Gen 8 | CPU: 1x Xeon E5-2407 | RAM: 12 GB DDR3 1066MHz | SSD: Kingston A400 120GB | OS: CentOS 8

 

Laptop:

Model: MacBook Air Late 2010 | CPU: Core 2 Duo L9600 | RAM: 4 GB DDR3 1066MHz | OS: MacOS Catalina 

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1 minute ago, mbntr said:

it does, but not much... on the upside I don't need to activate vsync or cap the framerate to stream at 60 fps and 6000kb/s

You wouldn’t need to do that regardless. Did you even use the newer card yet?


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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Mick Naughty said:

You wouldn’t need to do that regardless. Did you even use the newer card yet?

ho yes I did, but when the card is locked at 100% the stream starts to stutter a bit, this has happened with various hardware configurations in some games


Main PC:

CPU: i5-8600k@5.0GHz | GPU 1: GTX 1660@2070MHz | GPU 2: GT 710 | RAM: 16 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Lian Li PC-O11 Dynamic | PSU: Corsair RM 650i | SSD: Corsair MP510 480GB & Kingston UV400 120GB |  HDD: 2x 2TB WD Black | Motherboard: Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Pro | OS: Windows 10 Pro & Linux Mint 

 

Secondary PC:

CPU: AMD Athlon 3000G | GPU: Vega 3 iGPU | RAM: 8 GB DDR4 3000MHz | Case: Corsair 88R | PSU: Corsair VS650 | SSD: WD Green M.2 SATA 120 GB | Motherboard: MSI A320 A-PRO MAX | OS: Windows 10 Pro

 

Server:

Model: HP DL360e Gen 8 | CPU: 1x Xeon E5-2407 | RAM: 12 GB DDR3 1066MHz | SSD: Kingston A400 120GB | OS: CentOS 8

 

Laptop:

Model: MacBook Air Late 2010 | CPU: Core 2 Duo L9600 | RAM: 4 GB DDR3 1066MHz | OS: MacOS Catalina 

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3 minutes ago, mbntr said:

ho yes I did, but when the card is locked at 100% the stream starts to stutter a bit, this has happened with various hardware configurations in some games

Well that shouldn’t effect the encoder. Sounds more like you’re using obs with obscure settings. But if the gameplay takes precedence over the stream quality, I guess it’s fine. 


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Spare RIg Corsair Air 540, I7 4770K, Asus Maximus VI Extreme, G.Skill Ares 32Gb, EVGA 1080sc & 1060 SSC, Corsair CX850M, Acer KG251Q 1920x1080@240hz 

 

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