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Can't decide between these combos? Plz help

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Posted · Original PosterOP

So I'm starting a build right, here are the specs.

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The other day I was scrolling through micro center and noticed these two combos.

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Come on now these are some pretty insane deals, and it's just what I was looking for, the Ryzen 5 1600 AF has 6 cores and 12 threads, while the Ryzen 7 2700X has 8 cores and 16 threads. Is it worth the buy? Should I replace the current mobo and cpu in my parts list to accommodate for this combo? 

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the ryzen 7 2700x will be much better


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2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

the ryzen 7 2700x will be much better

thanks for the input, I'm worried about any bottlenecking issues though, I have a GTX 1650S

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2 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

thanks for the input, I'm worried about any bottlenecking issues though, I have a GTX 1650S

Any chance in the future you might upgrade to a real graphics card and play demanding stuff? Or you plan to play like esports games or fortnite etc?


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You can't buy R7 2700X separately rn but it's pretty much the same performance-wise and price-wise as R5 3600, that with Asrock B450 Pro4\M-AC and WD Blue 3D 500GB SSD will cost you about 320$, maybe a bit less at Microcenter, no need to go for that bundle with garbage-level motherboard. As of SSD, SN750 are faster, yeah, but you wouldn't notice the difference and motherboard are more important anyway.


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Posted · Original PosterOP
8 minutes ago, i_build_nanosuits said:

Any chance in the future you might upgrade to a real graphics card and play demanding stuff? Or you plan to play like esports games or fortnite etc?

just esports gaming, I'm not really looking to get into high demanding games at the moment.

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3 minutes ago, Juular said:

You can't buy R7 2700X separately rn but it's pretty much the same performance-wise and price-wise as R5 3600, that with Asrock B450 Pro4\M-AC and WD Blue 3D 500GB SSD will cost you about 320$, maybe a bit less at Microcenter, no need to go for that bundle with garbage-level motherboard. As of SSD, SN750 are faster, yeah, but you wouldn't notice the difference and motherboard are more important anyway.

So you're suggesting I stick with the ASRock b40m steel legend mobo and the Sn750 ssd with which cpu?

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3 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

So you're suggesting I stick with the ASRock b40m steel legend mobo and the Sn750 ssd with which cpu?

Oh, i missed that you had SN750 and ASrock B450M Steel Legend already in the build. Keep that motherboard, and again, if it's just for gaming, WD Blue 3D SSD would be just as good, and it's cheaper. As of CPU, keep R5 1600 AF, it's good entry level CPU, especially with this price, if you want smth faster than go for R5 3600.


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1 minute ago, Juular said:

Oh, i missed that you had SN750 and ASrock B450M Steel Legend already in the build. Keep that motherboard, and again, if it's just for gaming, WD Blue 3D SSD would be just as good, and it's cheaper. As of CPU, keep R5 1600 AF, it's good entry level CPU, especially with this price, if you want smth faster than go for R5 3600.

Alright, so just to make sure you would recommend keeping the steel legend, and the ryzen 5 1600 af. But switching from the WD Black SN750 to the WD Blue 3D SSD? This is what I had planned in the begging (apart from the ssd change). Thanks for your input!

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You have this at Microcenter :

 

99$  Ryzen 2600x : https://www.microcenter.com/product/505629/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-36ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-spire-cooler

 

73$  Gigabyte B450M DS3H : https://www.microcenter.com/product/510208/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-amd-am4-matx-motherboard

(budget board, but ok for up to 8 core processors and if you don't care much about overclocking)

-or-

80$ Asrock B450M Pro4 : https://www.microcenter.com/product/509732/asrock-b450m-pro4-amd-am4-matx-motherboard

(slightly better VRM)

-or-

85$ Gigabyte B450M Aorus : https://www.microcenter.com/product/510207/gigabyte-b450-aorus-m-amd-am4-matx-motherboard

(has some extra bits you may care about , 10gbps usb ports, heatsink for m.2, optical out header, 7.1 audio jacks etc)

 

69$ Crucial 3200 Mhz : https://www.microcenter.com/product/607433/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16gb-(2-x-8gb)-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-cl16-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-bls2k8g4d32aesb---gray

 

83$ WD SN750 : https://www.microcenter.com/product/607730/wd-black-sn750-500gb-ssd-3d-v-nand-pcie-nvme-gen-3-x-4-m2-2280-internal-solid-state-drive

 

and you get 20$ off for buying cpu and motherboard together

and you get 5$ off for buying cpu and mb and ssd together.

 

312$ in total after the 25$ taken off.  (if going with the 85$ mobo)

 

 

 

 

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Posted · Original PosterOP
Just now, Juular said:

Get this.

 

4 minutes ago, mariushm said:

You have this at Microcenter :

 

99$  Ryzen 2600x : https://www.microcenter.com/product/505629/amd-ryzen-5-2600x-36ghz-6-core-am4-boxed-processor-with-wraith-spire-cooler

 

73$  Gigabyte B450M DS3H : https://www.microcenter.com/product/510208/gigabyte-b450m-ds3h-amd-am4-matx-motherboard

(budget board, but ok for up to 8 core processors and if you don't care much about overclocking)

-or-

80$ Asrock B450M Pro4 : https://www.microcenter.com/product/509732/asrock-b450m-pro4-amd-am4-matx-motherboard

(slightly better VRM)

-or-

85$ Gigabyte B450M Aorus : https://www.microcenter.com/product/510207/gigabyte-b450-aorus-m-amd-am4-matx-motherboard

(has some extra bits you may care about , 10gbps usb ports, heatsink for m.2, optical out header, 7.1 audio jacks etc)

 

69$ Crucial 3200 Mhz : https://www.microcenter.com/product/607433/crucial-ballistix-sport-lt-16gb-(2-x-8gb)-ddr4-3200-pc4-25600-cl16-dual-channel-desktop-memory-kit-bls2k8g4d32aesb---gray

 

83$ WD SN750 : https://www.microcenter.com/product/607730/wd-black-sn750-500gb-ssd-3d-v-nand-pcie-nvme-gen-3-x-4-m2-2280-internal-solid-state-drive

 

and you get 20$ off for buying cpu and motherboard together

and you get 5$ off for buying cpu and mb and ssd together.

 

312$ in total after the 25$ taken off.  (if going with the 85$ mobo)

 

 

 

 

Isn't the 1600 AF a lot cheaper though, and as far as I'm concerned it's the same relative performance no?

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3 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

 

Isn't the 1600 AF a lot cheaper though

It's 100$ at PCPP, where do you see that ? Or rather it's 100$ at your screenshot, i can't find 1600 AF at PCPP myself altogether.


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2 minutes ago, Juular said:

It's 100$ at PCPP, where do you see that ? Or rather it's 100$ at your screenshot, i can't find 1600 AF at PCPP myself altogether.

but, since it comes with a mobo combo I might as well just use the combo at micro center. Here's the link. 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5002577/AMD_Ryzen_5_2600X_with_Wraith_Spire_Cooler,_Gigabyte_B450_AORUS_M_CPU_-_Motherboard_Bundle

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5 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

but, since it comes with a mobo combo I might as well just use the combo at micro center. Here's the link. 

https://www.microcenter.com/product/5002577/AMD_Ryzen_5_2600X_with_Wraith_Spire_Cooler,_Gigabyte_B450_AORUS_M_CPU_-_Motherboard_Bundle

Checked a few locations, it's 165$, same as 85$ CPU from Amazon + 80$ motherboard from MC, not to mention that this Gigabyte motherboard are meh.


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4 minutes ago, Juular said:

Checked a few locations, it's 165$, same as 85$ CPU from Amazon + 80$ motherboard from MC, not to mention that this Gigabyte motherboard are meh.

It has all the important stuff I need, and M.2 slot (with a thermal gaurd) and support for the ryzen cpu I'm getting. Also the ram is compatible as far as I can see. So do you think getting the combo is good? It'll save a bit of money and the mobo looks a lot better than the ASRock PRO VHD or anything other than the steel legend.

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1 minute ago, iCypticx said:

It has all the important stuff I need, and M.2 slot (with a thermal gaurd) and support for the ryzen cpu I'm getting. Also the ram is compatible as far as I can see. So do you think getting the combo is good? It'll save a bit of money and the mobo looks a lot better than the ASRock PRO VHD or anything other than the steel legend.

 

7 minutes ago, Juular said:

Checked a few locations, it's 165$, same as 85$ CPU from Amazon + 80$ motherboard from MC, not to mention that this Gigabyte motherboard are meh.

circling back to the ssd factor of this build, you were recommending for me to get a 3D drive instead of an M.2. You recommended the WD Blue 3D correct?

just to confirm this is what you mean? https://www.microcenter.com/product/607198/wd-blue-500gb-ssd-3d-nand-sata-iii-6gb-s-25-internal-solid-state-drive

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3 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

It'll save a bit of money

I'd rather pay 3$ extra for extra M.2 slot and better VRM on Asrock, but it's completely up to you.

3 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

circling back to the ssd factor of this build, you were recommending for me to get a 3D drive instead of an M.2. You recommended the WD Blue 3D correct?

just to confirm this is what you mean? https://www.microcenter.com/product/607198/wd-blue-500gb-ssd-3d-nand-sata-iii-6gb-s-25-internal-solid-state-drive

Yes. Or SanDisk Ultra 3D or Crucial MX500 if you'll find them cheaper.


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3 minutes ago, Juular said:

I'd rather pay 3$ extra for extra M.2 slot and better VRM on Asrock, but it's completely up to you.

Yes. Or SanDisk Ultra 3D or Crucial MX500 if you'll find them cheaper.

Well, microcenter doesn't have the B450M steel legend. So I'm going to have to do the purchasing on amazon instead. Which is a hastle since I live close to micro center and can just pick up the parts from there. Also on amazon the 2600x are now where as cheap as the ones on microcenter. Should I just get the steel legend on amazon, and the cpu plus ram on microcenter? Also I'm looking to get the PSU and case on amazon as well. I will share a ss of my cart as of now on the two websites. 

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10 minutes ago, Juular said:

I'd rather pay 3$ extra for extra M.2 slot and better VRM on Asrock, but it's completely up to you.

Yes. Or SanDisk Ultra 3D or Crucial MX500 if you'll find them cheaper.

 

2 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

Well, microcenter doesn't have the B450M steel legend. So I'm going to have to do the purchasing on amazon instead. Which is a hastle since I live close to micro center and can just pick up the parts from there. Also on amazon the 2600x are now where as cheap as the ones on microcenter. Should I just get the steel legend on amazon, and the cpu plus ram on microcenter? Also I'm looking to get the PSU and case on amazon as well. I will share a ss of my cart as of now on the two websites. 

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Also, because of this should I just go to amazon for the 85 USD Ryzen 5 1600 I was talking about earlier, to save an extra 10-15 bucks?

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1 hour ago, iCypticx said:

 

Isn't the 1600 AF a lot cheaper though, and as far as I'm concerned it's the same relative performance no?

Ryzen 2600x comes with Wraith Spire cooler,  the 2600 and 1600AF come with the Wraith Stealth .

So if you're gonna use the stock cooler, they're both decent, but the Spire is a bit better, more silent

 

The 1600 AF is technically cheaper at 85$ (MSRP), but you'll probably have difficulty finding it in stock at Amazon, and third party sellers on Amazon may have it at around 95-100$  PLUS shipping (in some cases)

 

As long as you go to Microcenter, buy as a set and save 25$ by buying mb+cpu+ssd at the same time.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, mariushm said:

Ryzen 2600x comes with Wraith Spire cooler,  the 2600 and 1600AF come with the Wraith Stealth .

So if you're gonna use the stock cooler, they're both decent, but the Spire is a bit better, more silent

 

The 1600 AF is technically cheaper at 85$ (MSRP), but you'll probably have difficulty finding it in stock at Amazon, and third party sellers on Amazon may have it at around 95-100$  PLUS shipping (in some cases)

 

As long as you go to Microcenter, buy as a set and save 25$ by buying mb+cpu+ssd at the same time.

 

 

Heres one for 85 USD https://www.amazon.com/AMD-Processor-Wraith-Stealth-Cooler/dp/B07XTQZJ28/ref=sr_1_2?keywords=Ryzen+5+1600+af&qid=1585414299&sr=8-2

So you're saying the only difference between the 2600x and the 1600af is the cooler?

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available from these sellers means amazon doesn't sell it themselves, it's not in stock

all those are third party sellers which may or may not even ship due to covid virus, unless they're "fullfilled by amazon" in which case it depends on your luck, if the product is in the warehouse which delivers hardware (they're cutting down on staff)

 

I only see 2 sellers on that link, maybe due to my country i guess.  I'll take your word for it.

 

6 minutes ago, iCypticx said:

So you're saying the only difference between the 2600x and the 1600af is the cooler?

 

1600AF is 3.2 ghz base, 3.6 ghz boost, 65w tdp, stealth cooler

2600     is 3.4 ghz base, 3.7 ghz boost, 65w tdp , stealth

2600x   is 3.6 ghz base, 4.2 ghz boost, 95w tdp , wraith spire

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1 minute ago, mariushm said:

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available from these sellers means amazon doesn't sell it themselves, it's not in stock

all those are third party sellers which may or may not even ship due to covid virus, unless they're "fullfilled by amazon" in which case it depends on your luck, if the product is in the warehouse which delivers hardware (they're cutting down on staff)

 

I only see 2 sellers on that link, maybe due to my country i guess.  I'll take your word for it.

 

 

1600AF is 3.2 ghz base, 3.6 ghz boost, 65w tdp, stealth cooler

2600     is 3.4 ghz base, 3.7 ghz boost, 65w tdp , stealth

2600x   is 3.6 ghz base, 4.2 ghz boost, 95w tdp , wraith spire

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Yeah I'm aware of that now. I've decided to go for the 2600x Thanks for the help!

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