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Try my settings mate... Imo, you wont notice that much difference between 4.3 and 4.4... that worth the added voltage.

At some point we had to start messing with Ray Tracing as a next step up that is true but this technology is really far from being as mainstream as we'd like... only reason nVidia took the chance to venture on it so soon is due to their comfortable position where AMD kept failing to deliver until recently with the RX5700XT release.
 
Another issue to have in mind is that a card like the RTX 2060, RTX 2060S and vanilla RTX 2070 all have too little hardware potential to handle DXR at it's glory to make sense, you need to target 1080p60fps and on the case of the vanilla RTX 2060 you're probably gonna have to settle for "low" on the DXR menu which kinda ruins the entire point of the product... you won't achieve the eye candy you want or if you do you sacrificed other equally important things.
 
We're not there yet to expect this to be worth wile, maybe here in 2 years on the RTX 3000 series? but for now I'd not bother with it so much and focus on games that still bring eye candy with more mainstream rasterization techniques that perform tons better allowing us to mess with high resolutions and high refreshes rate at the same time.
 
DLSS is another technology that kinda went to the freezer because nobody but Metro Exodus really managed to get it going as nVidia hoped and even then people have been arguing that the RX5700XT rendering at a bit lower resolution (say 1800p if 4k screen) with the sharpening filter brought better results both visually and in performance.
 
Bottom line is that if you can afford the 2070S then please do otherwise your Ray Tracing experience will certainly be frustrating. Good luck and happy gaming!

so 1080p? get the 2060 super. or heck even a 2070 non super if it's a bit more expansive. yes you can get the 5700xt but i always found that nvidia cards do it better long term. and there isn't much headroom in the 5700xt so it won't oc well compared to nvidia cards. And the 5700xt is more of a 1440p card. 

the max is a 2070 at 1080p
the best is either a 2060 super or 5700 non xt. 

If you really are like me and love eye candy.. go for the 2060 super or 2070 non super depending on prices.. 

 
1080p raytracing isn't demanding though. a normal 2070 or 2060 super can do it. 
Not bad for a 2060. 

however... i just saw how you had a 3700x at 4.3. sooo go for something like a 2070 or if you are ballsy and thinking of upgrading your monitor in the near future the 2070 super. cause that is a bare minimum for the much more difficult 1440p raytracing.

Most of it can be done through rasterization anyways... the only issue will rise if they start downgrading rasterization techniques to push DXR down our throats and that is a possibility because DXR implementation is extremely expensive and time consuming, certain games were forced to go back on their promise of implementation because simply couldn't afford dealing with it.
 
There are other red flags to have in mind, when did Ubisoft ever release a Watch Dogs game without serious downgrade in graphical quality from these initial promotional videos? the end result can be far more disappointing.
 
And even if they shift all their resources to manage this DXR implementation gotta understand RTX cards are still minority and if the game looks bad on rasterization where you need DXR to make it look good they are going to shoot themselves on the foot.
 
Take Metro Exodus for instance, the game still has the best implementation of Global Illumination so far which in my opinion is far more appealing than Ray Traced reflections and even then the game still looks gorgeous only on rasterization. If Ubisoft can't achieve the same result they are in for some backlash on what is probably one of the most disliked franchises they have.

Exactly, Ray tracing in BFV was a terrible choice because as you said, you're more looking for targets. Ray tracing would have been very cool in open-world games like GTA, racing and perhaps RDR2. But in first person shooters? Really?

I have a 2070... at 1440p it does ray tracing fine... things look great but honestly outside screenshots all I really see ray tracing at right now is a "hey i want to go from 144 fps to 70 fs in battlefield V. I don't notice the ray tracing as much as i notice the performance hit. in screenshots i can tell in the same spots though it looks nicer and maybe its more immersive?... i just am not noticing as I am more looking for targets and such.  

If I were you, I would get the GPU with the best performance/price ratio. Ray tracing is kinda a gimmick right now and pretty useless due to nVidia asking for absurd prices. If nVidia would lower their RTX prices, most people would have them by now but simply are way too expensive for the performance you get at the moment. €1300 or more is outrageous for 2080Ti.
 
If you want to keep the GPU for 4 or 5 years like I did, forget about RTX and get the GPU to get the best framerates.

Not in the short term.
 
As commonly used game engines get support for ray tracing it will become more popular, as well as a tipping point for AAA games when more gamers that have 1070's and 1060's for example upgrade.
 
Indie games will be a lot more hit and miss depending on available resources and whether or not they believe that the game will benefit from it.
 
If you're going to buy another GPU next year, I'd say RT is not a feature worth paying for. If it's something you value and you'll have the GPU for a couple of years or more, then it may be more of a consideration

Yes, but also to see if there are any significant performance gains to be had from driver updates in the meantime
 
The latest Nvidia drivers have unlocked some pretty beefy bumps from the super cards judging from recent press, and AMD drivers have history for improving greatly over time. There's a lot of flux when it comes to GPUs and it sucks to make the wrong decision on something that expensive. I've only just got AMD to agree to refund me for my 5700XT and that's taken 5 weeks

Alright gotcha. Depends what resolution you’re running for. But the 2060S will most likely be sufficient for 1080p 

Sorry for pulling you guys again to this topic... I think I found some good settings, so... I was trying to tweek my voltage and I was able to set 4300mhz at 1.3v, the temps went down 10ºC... WOW
Today when I booted the coputer at 1.325v it was on iddle at 50º-52º now, I'm on 40º-42º.
 
I'm so much happier now! Hope it helps. Lower than that... windows wont boot (at least for me)... also, at 1.3v my C15 score went up... lol

I understand... anyway, imo you are safe as you are... if you don't need more, keep it safe!

No.
8pin = Enough power for your CPU
No need for 750w+ PSUs

Nothing, really. The 8pin EPS12V cable is capable of supplying more than enough power for a CPU like the Ryzen 3700X. You might want to use it if you were putting a 3900x (or 3950x) under LN2 and overclocking it, or maybe if you want to spread the load across multiple rails on multi-rail PSUs, but other than that it's really just there because people think more CPU power connectors = must be better overclocking.

The secondary 4pin CPU is optional, not required. I really wish motherboard manufacturers would clearly state this...
 
https://www.globaldata.pt/componentes/fontes/450w-500w-550w
 
Some cheaper ones to keep the wife happy (and you alive):
https://www.globaldata.pt/componentes/fontes/fonte-bitfenix-formula-450w-80-gold-bp-fm450ulag-9r
https://www.globaldata.pt/componentes/fontes/fonte-corsair-cx-550w-80-bronze-cp-9020121-eu
 
And the Bitfenix Whisper M 550w for 80 euro is a good unit if your wife will forgive you.
https://www.globaldata.pt/componentes/fontes/fonte-modular-bitfenix-whisper-m-550w-80-gold-bp-wg550umag-9fm

Yeah, should replace it with a new unit.
 
To answer your earlier question, 500w would be more than enough for a system with a 3700x + GTX 1060. The GTX1060 is a fairly low powered card, only needing around 125w or so. Total system power consumption should be under 300w.

This was a pretty underwhelming unit back in 2012, very much likely garbage by today's standards (without offense :3)
 
But seriously like stated above, if you're doing such an upgrade with the latest and greatest hardware you should ensure it's safety with a more up-to-date unit... strongly recommend you to replace it and we can help you if you tell us your budget and options.

It's not damaging. 
 
It shouldn't really cause any input delays with mouse and keyboard, but to be honest, I'd have them connected directly to the PC rather than through the hub. 
 
USB C is just a connector, so it doesn't really make a difference. Go for the highest version USB you have available for the hub. You could go for a multi-purpose one that has things like an SD card reader as well if you want. 

Nope. Old PCIe 3.0 drives will get just as hot as they used to. 

From what i understand is that the fan doesnt run a whole lot. 
 
The TDP listed is for full load. Something that really only happens when populating all the lanes and doing quite a but of raid.

Mate, I don't think the difference will be that noticeable, since the chipset is the same... imo.
When it comes to choose the board, I 1st choose the chipset and then go for features and look.
 
Don't kill me guys! It's my honest opinion! ?
 
If it helps somehow, I'm going for MSI x570 Gaming Edge Wifi - https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-X570-GAMING-EDGE-WIFI/

I've tryed to overclock my ram once... but did I saw more fps? Nope, If it gave more fps were like 1-2... not worth it in my opinion. It will boost your cinebench score, but on gaming is the same... at least on Intel.

Mate, I don't think the difference will be that noticeable, since the chipset is the same... imo.
When it comes to choose the board, I 1st choose the chipset and then go for features and look.
 
Don't kill me guys! It's my honest opinion! ?
 
If it helps somehow, I'm going for MSI x570 Gaming Edge Wifi - https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/MPG-X570-GAMING-EDGE-WIFI/

It will probably work... since windows 8, the windows detects hardware changes, and download new drivers... but... I don't advice you to do it, because it keeps a lot of sh*ty drivers on the drive... and stability can be compromised.

Anyway... a backup will not hurt you!
 
1 - backup the data to another drive.
2 - make the change
on failure
3 - clean install and transfer data from the backup
 
Hope it helps!

Oh definitely on the 9700K without a doubt. Although I will say the experience on the 2700x is also good, just not AS good. There is a big price gap between those 2 chips, though. And in most games today I see the 9400F or 9600K as being more the sweet spot. Both of those chips still outperform the 2700x (even when it's OCed), and come close enough to the 9700K performance level for a lot less (especially in the case of the 9400F). Of course the 9600K can be OCed where the 9400F can't be.
 
HOWEVER it's definitely going to be best to wait for Zen2 to release because regardless of which you choose, you'll either get something better from AMD or you'll get a price drop and/or response from Intel. Win-win.