Danks

Balanced 4080 system beats an unbalanced 4090 system.
 
 

Fallout (WIP)

My old pc vs my new


 
The upgrade was a arc a770 upgraded from a gtx 780 ti
 
i also upgraded to a 2tb nvme and 1000w psu for the overkill

Let me help you dodge a bullet. Don't buy Gigabyte 4090 Xtreme Waterforce. It is made like crap.
 
I bought two 4090. Another one is Strix. Others are all sold out. They have been used for two weeks. Here is my impression:
 
1. This version of Gigabyte 4090 is built like plastic.
(1)The shroud looks cheap.
(2) The copper plate is machined with scratches. It doesn't cover components such as the VRM of the memory the way air-cooled GPU does.
(3) A part of the north core VRM is only covered 1/3. It's more like Gigabyte adjusted that part of the PCB upside down but forgot to communicate with the guys who made the copper plate. The components that are less than half-covered likes this will have higher temperature, higher chance to degrade overtime to the point of burndown. 
(4) One of the thermal pads is off-centered.
(5) The 360mm radiator is made of light aluminum instead of copper.
(6) The fans are not new. They seem to be refurbished from the previous 3090Ti. I can still see the debris left on the blades washed by electronic cleaning fluid.




 
2. It's not exactly quiet when the fans go to 1300rpm. The fans are 3000rpm. They are only slightly quiet at 900rpm which is 30% of the max speed. And the fans keep spinning at 30% all the time. They don't stop. In comparison, ASUS Strix let the fan stops when idle. Strix is also quieter when at the same load.
 
3. This is critical. The default fans of Gigabyte hit to max like a jet every now and then under load. Something triggered the annoying behavior. The BIOS update didn't fix it. When you control the fans through software like MSI afterburner. The fans go to the double speed of the set parameter. Multiple people have the same issues.
 
4. The power is limited to 500W. After the BIOS update, the power is limited even down to 490W. No overclocking protentional. The website of official Gigabyte says it is OC version. But the package of the box has no mention of the OC version. It is just a normal PCB despite the premium price.
 
5. The temperature reaches to 58c-63C easily at 490W. Any more than that the fan will spin louder.
 
6. The possible culprit of the fans hitting the max is a sudden temperature rise. Some components in a certain area are not properly cooled. They can heat up to 100C threshold multiple times such as the memory temperature. No more BIOS updates can fix high temperatures like this.

 
7. The thermal pad on this GPU is also a cheap adaption due to incompetent design:
 
(1) The pad is brittle enough to deform that you might need to replace them after every disassembly.
 
(2) The distance between VRM chips is 2.78mm. The copper plate distance for each type of chip is 3.00mm. The main power delivery chips have a 1.5mm thermal pad. So the side chips require a 1.28mm (1.5mm+2.78mm-3.0mm) thermal pad. 
 


 
(3) There is no conventional 1.28mm thermal pad. This can cause a lot of variations to overheat components. The thermal pad is usually the thinnest at the end. And the north VRM at the end is only partially covered. This is why a large portion of burned chips reside at the edge of a PCB. A lot of things can go wrong with a design like this. Who the hell thinks this is a good idea?  
 
(4) The actual pad comes off with the plate is 1.20mm short of touch after disassembly. If using a 1.5mm thermal pad instead, it also causes less pressure on the memory and core.
 
(5) So you have to hammer a 1.5mm thermal pad down to 1.28mm rated at 15W/mK. You don't buy a premium card to disassemble it multiple times to deal with hassles.


 
 
8. Overall the cooling capacity of a cheaply made copper plate is limited. It is engineered in a way the plate doesn't even cover all the VRMs as the heat dissipation of that plate is less than 500W. The thermal pad is also uniquely required at 1.28mm. These Gigabyte engineers don't do proper calculation, they do ill calculation to make core temperature looks good with a risk to burn components elsewhere. The overall result is the fans hit like a jet in the combination above. This is also why a so-called water-cooled GPU with incompetent cooling capacity in disguise has a worse power limit down to 500W instead of 600W compared to the air-cooled GPU.
 
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The conclusion:
 
The value of this card is bad. It is not comparable to the ASUS Strix in terms of almost everything such as build quality, noise level, OC performance. Strix is built like a piece of art in comparison. The premium product is all about the user experience with as little annoyance as possible. The Gigabyte AIO 4090 has a crap-tier user experience not even mentioning there is a risk of burn of 100C components in the long run. Gigabyte didn't test everything.
 
So don't buy this GPU. A thin piece of loose bare cheap-machined copper with scratches won't cut it when other components need to be cooled down properly.  

Wanted to show off my latest PC build.  Hopefully this is the correct place to do this. 
 
It's inside a 1940's tube radio chassis. The guts are from a gaming laptop. 
 
I've got a full build video here if you want all the details: 
 
 
 

It was actually the reverse for me, I’ve had always heard of Linus and watched a video here and there, but after watching that WAN show he was on got me on as a full-time viewer/subscriber of LTT.
 
He will be surely missed, his impact on the industry and games like Warframe will always be there.
 
RIP TotalBiscuit 

I have personal experience of it. Until about 6 years ago I was using multiple substances and I immediately recognise his behaviour because it's exactly how I was. 
 
Luckily for me I lost my job and home through it and had no choice but get off it, either that or it would have ended badly for me. That happening was the best thing that could of happened because now I've got a new home, I've completed multiple diplomas and I now have the best job I've ever had so this might not be a bad thing (assuming I'm right about him) if he uses it to change his life for the better. 

Those of us who follow TS already had strong feelings even before this kicked off. Logan has now shown himself to be what we all thought he was. 
 
I'm willing to let him explain but I hope he realises we don't have to choke on his bullshit if we don't want to, his behaviour over this debacle (and Pistols behaviour too) has been nothing short of ridiculous and I'm sure by now it's been pointed out to him by many people how ironic it is for one of the NSAs largest critics and a privacy and freedom of speech advocate to start banning people who disagree with him and call him out over his non transparent use of donated funds in an effort to silence them. 
 
Did you know that Pistol received a private message (some sexual thing I believe) on Discord and because they refused her admin powers (because Logan told them to keep it unofficial) she decided to post the message publicly then tell the sender to go and commit suicide. She even had the cheek to defend herself by saying if she was admin she could have banned him but because she wasnt her only course of action was to attack him in public. 
 
Logan and Pistol are both showing classic signs of cocaine usage, huge inflated egos and huge aggression with total denial that they did anything wrong or had any blame in anything. 
 

Thanks man appreciate the help! Here is the code in my html (in the order it appears in the file in case that matters) but it doesn't seem to work, just adds a '#" to the end of the URL still.

 
<body> function myFunction() { var div = document.getElementById('hidden'); div.style.display = 'block'; } <div class = "Links"> <a href="Index.html">Home</a> <a href="#" onclick="myFunction()">Results</a> <a href="url">Events</a> <a href="url">Other</a> </div> <!-- Links div ends here --> ... <unrelated code> ... <div ID="hidden"> <!-- this will drop down when they press the results button --> </div> <!-- Hidden div ends here --> </body> Can you see anything wrong with what I've done? cheers

edit: (the hidden div has a background colour in the CSS just so you don't think i'm trying to call an empty div)

Show me on the doll where the bad feminist touched you.

This is why we can't have nice things.

This is why we can't have nice things.

I only crack games to see what they are like or games that i don't really play that much, if i do play them alot and like them then i will buy them on steam.

Vessel only would be really sad...but still not enoug to make me suscribe, not enough content i care about.

So what is to stop a game developer from releasing a game that only works with the updated console? forcing people who own the original to buy the new one...just stupid in my opinion. This goes back to when Microsoft said that 792P was more than good enough for gaming on the XboxOne and that the difference in hardware performance between them and the PS4 would be negligible...this to me shows Microsoft eating their words, because if it was good enough to begin with why change it so quickly?

The old days of commodore has returned, back in the day i remember hooking up my vic-20 to my tv to play games, when the only media storage device was a cassette tape reader, this product seems to be an upgrade and a distant relative(twice removed, lol)
 
https://www.chinavasion.com/china/wholesale/Android-TV-Box-Stick/Windows-Mini-PC-TV-Boxes/72-Key-Keyboard-PC/

I have bought a few of these type of devices, intel tv stick, wintv box, etc. but this seems to be a better alternative, if this had wireless display options and a rechargeable battery i would probably buy this, but i already have too many toys. might even have use as a mini HTPC. if anyone decide to buy this LMK how it is. might be a good reseller for me.

You'll need 64-bit OS. 32-bit OS only uses 3-3.5GB

Wicked Cool!

I seriously think we need a "Thanks" button
 
"Use the thanks button even if its an answer you didnt want you ungrateful bastard"
-XDA

Wicked Cool!

Hello all! Long time LTT fan, new to the forum. I wanted to share my build, as it's really been a labor of love for the past month. I trash picked it from a local computer store in December, and it's come a long way since then.

It started life in 21 years ago 1995 with a 486dx2 running at a mind blistering 66mhz, with a massive 4mb ram, and 1mb video memory. The 3.5 floppy disk could hold a maximum data capacity of 1.44MB. As of a few days ago, it now has a an Intel i7 6700k running at 4.3ghz, 16GB's of 3000mhz ddr4 ram, and 8GB's video memory. The 3.5 floppy drive can read up to 512GB of data from a single diskette. This was not a plug & play build. Massive amounts of cutting, fabrication, welding, grinding, a filing were required. It was awesome.

Here's the full build with gifs for proper demonstrations of the floppy drive in action: http://imgur.com/a/fvh1M

 

I do every time I vote, I wish they'd start listening to me.

USA is warmonger Number 1 on this Planet.

You can stop Windows 10 from spying on you with this one weird trick that Microsoft hates.

Kerbal Space Program?