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3 minutes ago, mariobros said:

For gaming in ultrawide 3440x1440 180hz monitor, is the difference of 670 CAD worth to upgrade to 4090?

 

I play a lot of games from AAA to indie. But it will be only for gaming use.

 

 Also could my CPU be a bottleneck for either? I have a 5800x

for 3440x1440 the 4090 will be superior. I got an RTX 4080 and its doing well in 1440p 144hz, but I wouldnt go 4k with this card at that refreshrate.  5800x will be bottlenecking a 4090.  My 9900k@5.1ghz was a huge bottleneck for my RTX 4080. Had to get a new CPU.

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10 minutes ago, Hinjima said:

for 3440x1440 the 4090 will be superior. I got an RTX 4080 and its doing well in 1440p 144hz, but I wouldnt go 4k with this card at that refreshrate.  5800x will be bottlenecking a 4090.  My 9900k@5.1ghz was a huge bottleneck for my RTX 4080. Had to get a new CPU.

that is my worry because if I factor an upgrade to cpu,mb and ram that option became way more expensive also. 

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8 minutes ago, mariobros said:

that is my worry because if I factor an upgrade to cpu,mb and ram that option became way more expensive also. 

Balanced 4080 system beats an unbalanced 4090 system.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, mariobros said:

that is my worry because if I factor an upgrade to cpu,mb and ram that option became way more expensive also. 

Also, if you can afford a $2000 GPU you can afford the $1000 for the rest of the machine.

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4 minutes ago, dilpickle said:

To achieve that with max settings you're going to need all the performance you can get. Even a 4090 won't be enough for some games.

That's expected for sure

 

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Also, if you can afford a $2000 GPU you can afford the $1000 for the rest of the machine.

thats a 50% increase so not sure about your logic there

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12 minutes ago, mariobros said:

That's expected for sure

 

thats a 50% increase so not sure about your logic there

The logic is similar to buying a car or a house or anything.  If you can afford a $200,000 Ferrari but have issues with the gas and insurance and maintenance... you need to re-evaluate.

 

Buying a 4090 and skimping on the rest is like buying said Ferrari and not insuring it or buying the cheapest gas/parts.

 

A 4090 is not a singular thing, it is a symbiotic relationship part of a whole.

 

Guy in another thread has an issue with a FREE 4090 but he is waffling on the rest of the machine.  Gotta have it all, or scale it back.

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The 4080 is less than 60% of a 4090.

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On 2/21/2023 at 9:40 AM, Hinjima said:

for 3440x1440 the 4090 will be superior. I got an RTX 4080 and its doing well in 1440p 144hz, but I wouldnt go 4k with this card at that refreshrate.  5800x will be bottlenecking a 4090.  My 9900k@5.1ghz was a huge bottleneck for my RTX 4080. Had to get a new CPU.

How about for 2560x1440? For games such as COD WZ 1/2, MW 1/2, FH5, FIFA? For those games, would a 4080 be good at 1440p?

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16 minutes ago, Rob_dog said:

How about for 2560x1440? For games such as COD WZ 1/2, MW 1/2, FH5, FIFA? For those games, would a 4080 be good at 1440p?

Absolutely.  I play a lot more demanding games and I get 130+ fps no problem on high / ultra 🙂  I love my 4080!  FH5 is so easy to run on the 4080.  All the games you listed will run like a dream. 

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ppl say 4080 is not worth it, i would argue both cards are overpriced as hell so the 4080 is still the more sane option. 

 

1 hour ago, Hinjima said:

Absolutely.  I play a lot more demanding games and I get 130+ fps no problem on high / ultra 🙂  I love my 4080!  FH5 is so easy to run on the 4080.  All the games you listed will run like a dream. 

basically this, i have a 3070 and can run a lot of games ar 1440p 120fps+ so i have a hard time believing a 4080 (or even 4070) wouldn't be *much* better) 

 

CPU is the more important question here IMHO

 

 

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On 2/21/2023 at 7:02 PM, Dedayog said:

Also, if you can afford a $2000 GPU you can afford the $1000 for the rest of the machine.

This is such stupid logic. If you can afford "X" why not just pay 30% more and get "Y".

It makes no sense.

Also not everyone wants to just spend an extra 1000$ on a rig even if they could afford it.

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