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About MageTank

  • Title
    Fully Stable
  • Birthday October 27

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  • Battle.net

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  • Gender
  • Location
    United States, Ohio
  • Interests
    Gaming, Computer Hardware
  • Occupation
    Slim Jim Enthusiast


  • CPU
    Core i7 8700k 5.4ghz Cinebench Stable (best kind of stable)
  • Motherboard
    ASRock Z370 Fatality K6
  • RAM
    32GB (2x16GB) G Skill Ripjaws V 3200mhz C14 (Overclocked to 3600mhz C14-14-14-28-CR2)
  • GPU
    EVGA GTX 1080 Ti Hybrid FTW3
  • Case
    Cooler Master MasterCase Pro 5
  • Storage
    Samsung 960 Evo M.2 500GB
  • PSU
    EVGA 650W Supernova G2
  • Display(s)
    Dell S2417DG 165hz G-Sync TN
  • Cooling
    EVGA CLC 280 AIO
  • Keyboard
    Logitech G810 Orion Spectrum
  • Mouse
    Logitech G403
  • Sound
    Sennheiser Game One
  • Operating System
    Windows 10 Pro

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  1. Intel never stopped supporting quad channel memory. X299 supports it as we speak, and LGA 3647 supports Hexa-channel memory. I have no idea where you are getting your facts from, but they are far from true. With your logic, JEDEC shouldn't bother raising frequency with each memory standard that gets released. Also, people do far more to gain 5-7% performance, let's not paint with that broad of a brush. My personal tests saw a 20% increase in minimum framerates, far more than what most get out of other forms of overclocking. I've offered additional sources if you wanted to see them. At this point, it's your turn to prove otherwise with some sources of your own. Hopefully ones with a testing methodology that we can recreate and test for ourselves.
  2. There is an awful lot that is wrong about this statement. DRAM frequency not making a difference is part of it, but the "nothing in the world that reads/writes 35 gigabytes a second to the ram" is outright wrong. Plenty of applications make full use of that bandwidth, and specific instruction sets such as AVX (and their derived variants) still require excessive amounts of memory bandwidth to avoid bottlenecks. You can see this when running Linpack, especially the MKL flavor. As for the original statement of DRAM frequency making no difference, this is simply not true. There are plenty of published benchmarks both from forum users (such as myself) as well as those in the tech review industry that have demonstrated the impact of memory bandwidth/latency on the overall gaming experience. Here is a post from 2014 on OCN that first kicked things off: https://www.overclock.net/forum/18051-memory/1487162-independent-study-does-speed-ram-directly-affect-fps-during-high-cpu-overhead-scenarios.html Next, we have the Digital Foundry benchmarks that are still shown to this day as being extremely impactful: https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-intel-core-i9-9900k-review https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-coffee-lake-core-i7-8700k-review_1 https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-intel-kaby-lake-core-i7-7700k-review The trend continues as you go back to older generations as well. If you prefer GN's article, they saw a 5-7% performance boost across all titles going from 2666 to 3200: https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3086-intel-i5-8400-cpu-review-2666mhz-vs-3200mhz-gaming/page-4 The point is, memory speed does have an impact on gaming performance, especially when it comes to minimum framerates. It's not as dramatic as say, a CPU or GPU upgrade, but if your platform supports it, memory OCing is free, and should be considered by those that intend to get the most out of their hardware. I won't pretend to know why it matters, as I don't think it's related to frequency (my personal tests showed scaling improve as RTL or Round Trip Latency decreased, which frequency only plays a small part in RTL) but some have questioned whether or not it's related to an application being bottlenecked by CPU I/O requests. Either way, there is a pretty consistent difference in performance, and in my personal tests, it's done wonders for my minimum framerates, with some titles showing 20% higher FPS on absolute minimums. I am not biased at all, but there is a memory overclocking guide in my signature, cough cough. If you need additional sources, let me know. I have an entire folder full when I get off work.
  3. Reduce tWRWR_DR/DD to a value of 15 each for now and give it another go. Those tertiary timings are far too tight for your dual rank kit.
  4. Greetings, glad you were able to find the guide. The thread has definitely been neglected due to my heavy work schedule, but I'll gladly assist you in any way that I can. In regards to your specific situation, I think it would be best to start with the basics, and try to purge some of the information that may not be in your best interest. Luckily, it sounds like you already have a good foundation with your XMP profile if it's letting you remain stable with RAM while running your CPU overclock. The trick here will be tweaking RAM in a way where you get meaningful performance without compromising on stability. To do so, you will need to make slow, incremental adjustments. Start with setting static voltages for VDIMM, VCCIO and VCCSA. For VDIMM, we can start at 1.39v and work our way down from there once we find a nice solid clock speed. Do not worry about the voltage, it's harmless on even the cheapest Intel boards that I've tested. Set VCCIO and VCCSA to anywhere between 1.1-1.14v. You honestly do not need to go any higher once you tweak your tertiary timings correctly. From these static voltages, dial in static primary timings. In this case, keep 14-14-14-28, and set your command rate to 2. We can always change command rate later as well. From these static primary timings, slowly increase your memory strap until you run into instability. When you do, stop tweaking the clock speed, and start working on timings. Start with 13-14-14-28-CR2. You can also try 13-15-15-30-CR2 as well, which might work out a little better depending on the specific kit. Once you've found a solid clock speed and set your primary timings, you can reference the rest of the guide to learn how to adjust secondary/tertiary timings. Let me know if you have any questions.
  5. MageTank

    Locked i7 8700 BCLK overclocking.

    With a 2.65% overclock, you should not need to change any voltage to stabilize your ram. With 102.65 BCLK, your memory should be running at 3285mhz, which is not even 1 strap higher. I would check RTL/IO-L offsets to make sure they are not training wildly. They need to be within 1T of each other. For example: If RTL A is 50, RTL B must be 49, 50, or 51. 2T can be stable, but it's pushing it in my opinion. If it's falling outside of 2T, apply the RTL Init formula from my memory overclocking guide. This will force RTL/ IO Offsets to train within a specific window, preventing them from going out of spec. Once you've determined RTL settings are within spec, Dial in the rest of your secondary and tertiary timings manually. This will prevent any auto-training issues when you restart the system. Helps to have MRC Fastboot disabled to make sure it does not interfere with this process. Lastly, you can look into lowering your memory multiplier one strap lower, then tighten your timings to compensate for the loss in bandwidth. If this option allows you to achieve lower absolute latency, then it's worth the trade in bandwidth. If you have any further issues, I can try to figure out why it's crashing in-depth.
  6. We really can't use Geekbench as a credible metric of performance at all for PC. It's impossible to know how fast a CPU or memory kit is because Geekbench only reports DMI strings, not actual clock values. You can have a 6ghz CPU and Geekbench will still only report it's base/boost clocks in the result. It also only reports JEDEC ram speeds even if you were to load an XMP that goes beyond JEDEC standards. Geekbench is only useful for confirming specifications. Every piece of performance information should be disregarded until actual performance based benchmarks are used.
  7. MageTank

    We Ran INTEL Optane on an AMD CPU!!

    I am glad that after singing the praises of Primocache on this forum for 3 years, it's gotten the attention that it deserves. The best part wasn't even mentioned, where you can use system memory to prevent mundane writes from even hitting the SSD, resulting in longer SSD lifespans. Having both a level 1 and level 2 cache is definitely practical for a ton of different situations.
  8. MageTank

    guy selling LTT signed origin pc

    I don't see anything wrong with this. He's not asking for an absurd price for it, it's actually quite reasonable given the hardware: PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4KMVGG Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4KMVGG/by_merchant/ CPU: Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7GHz 6-Core Processor ($369.89 @ OutletPC) CPU Cooler: Corsair - H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock - Z370M-ITX/ac Mini ITX LGA1151 Motherboard ($128.49 @ SuperBiiz) Memory: Kingston - Savage 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($201.99 @ SuperBiiz) Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($57.99 @ Amazon) Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Video Card ($434.99 @ Amazon) Power Supply: Silverstone - 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply ($120.10 @ Amazon) Other: Intel Optane Memory Module 16 GB PCIe M.2 80mm MEMPEK1W016GAXT ($34.18 @ Amazon) Total: $1407.62 Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-07-29 23:19 EDT-0400 This is without cost of OS, or the case (which is very custom, hard to find anything quite like it). It might be possible that he had the intent to sell it the entire time, or perhaps he is in a situation in which he no longer has room/need for a desktop PC or is in a tight enough spot financially that he feels he needs to sell it to make ends meet. Either way, he has the right to do so, and I am sure that this exact scenario is expected when they arrange these giveaways in the first place.
  9. "New Intel chips will have soldered IHS dropping august 1st" This may have been a waste of time now, but it will serve me well in the future...
  10. https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232668 Could use about 4 of these... Though I'd settle for 2 kits.
  11. Still doesn't satisfy my extreme thirst for 128GB of 3866mhz B-Die
  12. Probably because it's cheaper to buy a prebuilt PC than what it is to buy a decent kit of memory at the moment
  13. While I understand the point you are trying to make, it's not a valid one given the context of this story. Had her tweet been addressed to a specific entity, then you'd be on to something, but it was just a general statement on a public forum. It would be more akin to me saying "Man, the weather is terrible today" to myself in public, and someone else chiming in with their opinion on the weather. When words are directed to nobody specific, then anybody can chime in at any time. You can also read the entire context on her twitter: As you can see, it was addressed to anyone that was reading her twitter, and therefore it's open for anyone to respond. She stated her opinion on player character design in MMO's, and even discussed with others that found her posts interesting. One mentioned studying drama and theology, to which she replied "That's so cool!". She had no issues with people agreeing with her statements, it was not until there was a differing opinion that she became frustrated. I don't have a problem with her being frustrated, nor do I disagree with her points on character design, because having played GW2 since it's launch, she describes it almost exactly how it feels. I don't even have a problem with the way she responded, because she is entitled to respond in any way she deems fit, just like I don't blame ArenaNet's reaction of terminating an employee that demeans a customer while publicly identifying themselves as an employee. This entire situation has nothing to do with the employee being female, and everything to do with them choosing to represent the company on social media, and then act shocked when they are fired for having an aggressive back and forth with the customers of their employer. The only thing that struck me as odd, was that it appears ArenaNet did not give her the option of apologizing for her lapse in judgement, and instead chose an instant termination.
  14. MageTank

    Ryzen 5 1600x running at 4.2Ghz?

    Oh come on, stop being modest. You were by far my best student when it comes to memory overclocking. Having taught you every thing you know, I have confidence that you can assist in this matter. As the famous Sun Tzu once said: "Teach a man to teach, and he can teach a teacher".
  15. MageTank

    Nvidia very strict NDA leaked

    I think it's a mixture of this, along with misinformation being spread by the source itself. Heise is using this NDA as a means to fluff up their "journalistic integrity" by trying to justify them never signing NDA's, and make it look as if they only have the best interests of their readers at heart. The issue is, they are blatantly lying about what this NDA means, and using that lie as a justification, which takes away from their point in the first place.