GTX950 VS R9 270X

[arvark]

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_950_strix_review,1.html

ikr? all specs, no sources or benchmarks. The 950 is kicking the 270X's ass as far as i can tell.

In fact is SUPPORT your point, I just asked for benchmark of the opposite (270X beating 950).

[Shoob]

seems OCed out of the box

i was planning to get this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202050

until i see this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121980

And there is this - PowerColor TurboDuo Radeon R9 285 or GIGABYTE Radeon R9 380

Or if they cost too much for you there is ASUS Radeon R9 270X. The 950 is too closely priced to better cards to be a viable choice. When they start going on sale for $150 or less they may be a great bang for the buck, but for now they seem a little overpriced. It's all personal preference though - some people just prefer Nvidia for unknown reasons and like to buy inferior products.

[Dinkleberg]

Still a bit early, but so far the 950 is beating AMD mid range offerings including the 270X. Makes sense since the 960 was a dissapointment so the 200-250$ segment was lost to the 380/280/285/280X, so they had to take back some market share on the mid level. I would wait a week for more benchmarks to show up but it looks like the 950 is winning in every sense. No idea why so many people were assuming the 270X was better without even checking benchmarks, it was really weird, and citing stream processors and cuda cores like that meant shit in real life. Kinda dissapointing to be totally honest.

The 950 is the same price as the 280 and the 280 has the same performance as the 960, the 280 is a better buy, and most 270X's are like $120-130 which is better bang-for-buck than the 950.

[xAcid9]

From HardwareCanucks

 

The temperatures have absolutely no correlation to the core throttling since the GTX 950 FTW is able to nearly hit 1500MHz without any overclocking. That’s nothing short of intractable given the fact that NVIDIA’s reference design is supposed to level out around the 1200MHz mark. We need to remind you: this is a retail card in its original packaging, one that was destined for channel sales before it was rerouted to us.

 

Any other website show the real average clock of the 950 while gaming?

[Dabombinable]

From HardwareCanucks

 

The temperatures have absolutely no correlation to the core throttling since the GTX 950 FTW is able to nearly hit 1500MHz without any overclocking. That’s nothing short of intractable given the fact that NVIDIA’s reference design is supposed to level out around the 1200MHz mark. We need to remind you: this is a retail card in its original packaging, one that was destined for channel sales before it was rerouted to us.

 

Any other website show the real average clock of the 950 while gaming?

Well it is just a cutdown 960....

[roikhan]

And there is this - PowerColor TurboDuo Radeon R9 285 or GIGABYTE Radeon R9 380

Or if they cost too much for you there is ASUS Radeon R9 270X. The 950 is too closely priced to better cards to be a viable choice. When they start going on sale for $150 or less they may be a great bang for the buck, but for now they seem a little overpriced. It's all personal preference though - some people just prefer Nvidia for unknown reasons and like to buy inferior products.

haha sure,but i was comparing which one better betwen r9 270x and gtx 950.the r9 285 and r9 380 sure a good card,but i personaly don't have a strong enough psu and Cpu to handle both card,i got only 400 watt psu and i3 4130 which might bottlenecked the r9 380 and r9 285.so i might consider the asus r9 270x if its perform better than the asus gtx 950 strix but its not-thanks for your suggestion,but these are cheaper than all of your suggested option

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127905

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500385

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487156

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125810

[roikhan]

The 950 is the same price as the 280 and the 280 has the same performance as the 960, the 280 is a better buy, and most 270X's are like $120-130 which is better bang-for-buck than the 950.

where i could get the r9 270x for $120?

[Prysin]

So, everyone recomends the 270X, no idea why, look at the benchmarks, the 950 beats it across the board at 1080p

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_950_strix_review,1.html

The big mistake of Nvidia latest line up was the 960, the 950 performs about 90% of the 960, look at the graphs at paul's video. I don't know why everyone is recomending the 270x, they are just typing specs, and with GPUs it's never about the specs, i mean, the 980 ti beats the titan x in gaming, how you explain that in specs.

 

You are benching a 3 year old GPU, with a 1 ish year old one (this is a cut down GTX960, 960 has been around for a long time, so yes, the GPU itself is like a year old almost).

 

HOWEVER, look at price.

173 USD for that 950...

at 178 USD, no rebates. we find the Powercolor R9 285

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr92852gbd5tdhe

 

That 285, is equal to a 960. Maybe a few % ahead, not much more.

The 285 is also VERY power efficient (i know, its a weird thing to say about a AMD product, but it is true).

 

So, would i reccomend the 950? uuuhm no. Atleast not until the Powercolor R9 285 is sold out.

But until then, 285 is faster, better and costs about the same.

 

As for 270X... The 270X beat out the 750Ti. It, the 270X, has served us well for 3 years now. Pitcairn is the first GCN (GCN 1.0) GPU AMD made back in 2012. By all accounts, it is high time Nvidia produed something to beat it in its own price bracket.

That it would take them 3 years to do so, that is just sad. And i honestly think Nvidia has been intentionally shafting the lower end of the market for too long.

 

I welcome the 950, it is a great GPU and i will reccomend it as the bottom line GPU for a long time forward given its low price, stellar performance, and low power consumption.

[roikhan]

You are benching a 3 year old GPU, with a 1 ish year old one (this is a cut down GTX960, 960 has been around for a long time, so yes, the GPU itself is like a year old almost).

 

HOWEVER, look at price.

173 USD for that 950...

at 178 USD, no rebates. we find the Powercolor R9 285

http://pcpartpicker.com/part/powercolor-video-card-axr92852gbd5tdhe

 

That 285, is equal to a 960. Maybe a few % ahead, not much more.

The 285 is also VERY power efficient (i know, its a weird thing to say about a AMD product, but it is true).

 

So, would i reccomend the 950? uuuhm no. Atleast not until the Powercolor R9 285 is sold out.

But until then, 285 is faster, better and costs about the same.

 

As for 270X... The 270X beat out the 750Ti. It, the 270X, has served us well for 3 years now. Pitcairn is the first GCN (GCN 1.0) GPU AMD made back in 2012. By all accounts, it is high time Nvidia produed something to beat it in its own price bracket.

That it would take them 3 years to do so, that is just sad. And i honestly think Nvidia has been intentionally shafting the lower end of the market for too long.

 

I welcome the 950, it is a great GPU and i will reccomend it as the bottom line GPU for a long time forward given its low price, stellar performance, and low power consumption.

gtx 950 actually meant to beat the r7 370 which is new even its just rebrand.the gtx 950 is $173?,most of the gtx 950 are about $159

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127905

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125810

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487156

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500385

and this 960 is cheaper http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487153&cm_re=gtx_960-_-14-487-153-_-Product than the r9 285

[Prysin]

gtx 950 actually meant to beat the r7 370 which is new even its just rebrand.i would get this the r9 285

The 370 isnt a 270X. it is a 265..

http://anandtech.com/show/9387/amd-radeon-300-series/2

 

Which is MUCH weaker then 270X.

 

look here for more evidence

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1127?vs=1043

 

 

The 950 STILL WINS, but remember, the current benchmarks of the 950 is being made with THE BEST cards Nvidia and its partners can offer. While most 270X benchmarks out there is made with shitty AMD reference cards... So take any FPS numbers you see with a massive grain of salt. 270X still has some fight in it, but it IS 3 years old. In PC terms that is fucking ancient.

 

Just the fact that it is STILL competitive is just a fucking miracle.

[roikhan]

The 370 isnt a 270X. it is a 265..

http://anandtech.com/show/9387/amd-radeon-300-series/2

 

Which is MUCH weaker then 270X.

 

look here for more evidence

http://anandtech.com/bench/product/1127?vs=1043

 

 

The 950 STILL WINS, but remember, the current benchmarks of the 950 is being made with THE BEST cards Nvidia and its partners can offer. While most 270X benchmarks out there is made with shitty AMD reference cards... So take any FPS numbers you see with a massive grain of salt. 270X still has some fight in it, but it IS 3 years old. In PC terms that is fucking ancient.

 

Just the fact that it is STILL competitive is just a fucking miracle.

ok,i know that r7 370 is the r7 265.so which one will you choose just between r9 270x and the gtx 950 nothing else

[Prysin]

ok,i know that r7 370 are the r7 265.so which one will you choose just between r9 270x and the gtx 950 nothing else

I would probably go for 950, knowing that it would be better for now.

But come DX12 and things may change. However, when time comes to upgrade, neither the 950 or 270X would cut it, so 270X is a really close second, because it is cheaper, so it leaves less of a bitter aftertaste if you gotta toss it away after just a year.

[roikhan]

I would probably go for 950, knowing that it would be better for now.

But come DX12 and things may change. However, when time comes to upgrade, neither the 950 or 270X would cut it, so 270X is a really close second, because it is cheaper, so it leaves less of a bitter aftertaste if you gotta toss it away after just a year.

ok,so if i choose the r9 270x because its cheaper,where i could get the r9 270x that cheaper than the gtx 950?

i dont really give a shit about DX12 or anything in terms of future capability,because i living now and i play now,these card is just an present card,even if you get some 3 Way Titan X for future capability,you will never know if tommorrow morning you still living or not

[don_svetlio]

ok,i know that r7 370 is the r7 265.so which one will you choose just between r9 270x and the gtx 950 nothing else

270x outperforms the 950 at the moment and if things turn out they way they are looking thus far it might outperform the 960 as well as soon as DX12 titles start showing up

[roikhan]

I would probably go for 950, knowing that it would be better for now.

But come DX12 and things may change. However, when time comes to upgrade, neither the 950 or 270X would cut it, so 270X is a really close second, because it is cheaper, so it leaves less of a bitter aftertaste if you gotta toss it away after just a year.

ok,so if i choose the r9 270x because its cheaper,where i could get the r9 270x that cheaper than the gtx 950?

i dont really give a shit about DX12 or anything in terms of future gaming capability,because i living now and i play now,graphics card is just an present thing,even if you get some 3 Way SLI Titan X for future capability,you dont even know and will never know when you will die,it could be tommorrow or even few more seconds.people could die anytime so remember what you should get is what you need in present

[don_svetlio]

 

ok,so if i choose the r9 270x because its cheaper,where i could get the r9 270x that cheaper than the gtx 950?

i dont really give a shit about DX12 or anything in terms of future gaming capability,because i living now and i play now,graphics card is just an present thing,even if you get some 3 Way SLI Titan X for future capability,you dont even know and will never know when you will die,it could be tommorrow or even few more seconds.people could die anytime so remember what you should get is what you need in present

 

Check your local retailers - also check prices on the 285 and 280.

[roikhan]

270x outperforms the 950 at the moment and if things turn out they way they are looking thus far it might outperform the 960 as well as soon as DX12 titles start showing up

seriously? how? any benchmark?

the gtx 950 wins most of the benchmark http://www.guru3d.co...x_review,1.html

[Prysin]

270x outperforms the 950 at the moment and if things turn out they way they are looking thus far it might outperform the 960 as well as soon as DX12 titles start showing up

No, unfortunatly it does not. It is close, but it doesnt outperform.

 

Price to performance wise however, it does, marginally.

 

GTX 950 benchmarks

https://youtu.be/uJ2WFv75J50?t=257

R9 270X benchmarks

https://youtu.be/HdrORYLuypg?t=332

 

 

[don_svetlio]

 

No, unfortunatly it does not. It is close, but it doesnt outperform.

 

Price to performance wise however, it does, marginally.

 

GTX 950 benchmarks

https://youtu.be/uJ2WFv75J50?t=257

R9 270X benchmarks

https://youtu.be/HdrORYLuypg?t=332

 

 

 

those are comparing a 370 (not the same as a 270x - the 370 is a 265) and a 960 - no 950.

[Prysin]

those are comparing a 370 (not the same as a 270x - the 370 is a 265) and a 960 - no 950.

i am sorry that i demand of you using your eyes to do manual comparisons. But these two videos feature two VERY SPECIFIC THINGS.

 Unfortunatly, not in the SAME video.

 

One features a 270X, the other a 950.

Then there is some numbers, FPS we call them, that is used in both. So if you pause the video(s), when the same game is tested in both, then compare. Then you see that EHRMAGAWD, the 270X loses by a few FPS.

[don_svetlio]

i am sorry that i demand of you using your eyes to do manual comparisons. But these two videos feature two VERY SPECIFIC THINGS.

 Unfortunatly, not in the SAME video.

 

One features a 270X, the other a 950.

Then there is some numbers, FPS we call them, that is used in both. So if you pause the video(s), when the same game is tested in both, then compare. Then you see that EHRMAGAWD, the 270X loses by a few FPS.

Yeah, soz, brainfart

Well - they are close and with driver 15.7 are even closer - it boosts AMD cards by around 5% (my firestrike score went up 500 points when I updated and gained about 4 fps in Witcher 3.)

[Prysin]

Yeah, soz, brainfart

Well - they are close and with driver 15.7 are even closer - it boosts AMD cards by around 5% (my firestrike score went up 500 points when I updated and gained about 4 fps in Witcher 3.)

They are close, but the 270X is 3 years old now. The age is showing. And neat features such as VSR/DSR, Freesync, FRTC and such is lacking. In addition it lacks the massivly improved color compression of the 285 and 300 series, and it has some of the worst tesselation performance of all current AMD cards due to GCN 1.0 being atrocious in tesselation.

 

So yeah, the 950 would, depending on teh game and settings, be wastly superior.

DX12 wont alleviate poor VRAM data compression or lousy tesselation. That is hardware design specific, and cannot be alleviated by a API, atm.

[roikhan]

Check your local retailers - also check prices on the 285 and 280.

checked local store already,most of the r9 280 and r9 285 price above Rp.3.000.000 ($215) i even see zotac gtx 960 for only Rp.2.750.000 ($196) and the r7 270x around Rp.2.600.000 ($185) 

[don_svetlio]

They are close, but the 270X is 3 years old now. The age is showing. And neat features such as VSR/DSR, Freesync, FRTC and such is lacking. In addition it lacks the massivly improved color compression of the 285 and 300 series, and it has some of the worst tesselation performance of all current AMD cards due to GCN 1.0 being atrocious in tesselation.

 

So yeah, the 950 would, depending on teh game and settings, be wastly superior.

DX12 wont alleviate poor VRAM data compression or lousy tesselation. That is hardware design specific, and cannot be alleviated by a API, atm.

FRTC and VSR are supported on the 270x and all of the 7000 series

[don_svetlio]

checked local store already,most of the r9 280 and r9 285 price above Rp.3.000.000 ($215) i even see zotac gtx 960 for only Rp.2.750.000 ($196) and the r7 270x around Rp.2.600.000 ($185) 

950 price?