can someone explain this to me? these processors kinda confuse me

[Daniel91]

i3 4150 - 3.5G / 3MB cach

i5 4460 - 3.2G / 6MB cach

 

and the i3 has hyper threading?

 

does the cach make a big diffrence?

and is the i3 faster then the i5?

[Hatsune Miku 「 」]

i3 has ht.

no, cache rarely does.

no, i5 > i3.

[79wjd]

in single threaded tasks, the i3 is technically faster...but thats if you're only doing one thing that only runs on one thread. 

 

...... 

 

The i5 is faster. 

[i_build_nanosuits]

the i5 is much better overall...the cache is sized to be adequate to what the CPU is likely going to be needing during it's normal operation and rarely get flooded during gaming sessions and stuff like that...some cpu's might run out of cache rendering videos and stuff like that that fully utilize the CPU but only when they are heavily overclocked...it's not a spec that you should look at.

The i5 has 4 cores and the i3 only has 2...thats the stat you should be looking at.

[Daniel91]

so gaming on BF 2 that uses multiple threads right?

 

all games are multi threads if I'm right

 

so I should go for the i5 4460?

[Mujteba]

Extra question: Is four threads through hyperthreading equivalent to 4 physical cores in terms of performance?

[i_build_nanosuits]

so gaming on BF 2 that uses multiple threads right?

 

all games are multi threads if I'm right

 

so I should go for the i5 4460?

pretty much every AAA games now make use of at least 4 threads and a strong quad-core cpu is recommended for optimal performance, yes.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Extra question: Is four threads through hyperthreading equivalent to 4 physical cores in terms of performance?

no it's about 70% to 75% as good as 4 real cores.

it's better than a plain dual core, but not optimal.

[Daniel91]

Extra question: Is four threads through hyperthreading equivalent to 4 physical cores in terms of performance?

what is hyper threading  actually?

[Hatsune Miku 「 」]

what is hyper threading actually?

queuing of processes. doesn't actually have any performance increases.

so gaming on BF 2 that uses multiple threads right?

all games are multi threads if I'm right

so I should go for the i5 4460?

I'm guessing that you're profile isn't correct with a i5 4690k

[Mujteba]

what is hyper threading  actually?

Normally a single core on a processor can do only one task at a time. A hyperthreaded core can perform two tasks simultaneously effectively making it seem like you have double the amount of cores.

[Daniel91]

queuing of processes. doesn't actually have any performance increases.

so no matter what the i3 still loses to the i5?

[i_build_nanosuits]

queuing of processes. doesn't actually have any performance increases.

that's completely wrong

 

Normally a single core on a processor can do only one task at a time. A hyperthreaded core can perform two tasks simultaneously effectively making it seem like you have double the amount of cores.

hyper-threading allow the CPU to do better scheduling and process a second set of instructions during what would normaly be ''small downtimes''...so it's feeding his single mouth (core) with two hands (hyper-threading)

 

[Hatsune Miku 「 」]

so no matter what the i3 still loses to the i5?

yes. otherwise the i5 doesn't have a raison detre.

 

 

that's completely wrong

hyper-threading allow the CPU to do better scheduling and process a second set of instructions during what would normaly be ''small downtimes''...so it's feeding his single mouth (core) with two hands (hyper-threading)

Still queuing processes.

[i_build_nanosuits]

Still queuing processors.

still significantly improves performance.

[Daniel91]

I'm guessing that you're profile isn't correct with a i5 4690k

I'm asking because I'm helping someone decide to get the i3 ot the low end i5

 

I;ve never bought i3s before usually always get K series processors as I like to mess around

[Hatsune Miku 「 」]

still significantly improves performance.

 

So how am I wrong exactly?

[i_build_nanosuits]

queuing of processes. doesn't actually have any performance increases.

still significantly improves performance.

So how am I wrong exactly?

really?

[Hatsune Miku 「 」]

really?

You said I was COMPLETELY WRONG. When you said hyperthreading is scheduling so how is scheduling different from queuing?

[i_build_nanosuits]

You said I was COMPLETELY WRONG. When you said hyperthreading is scheduling so how is scheduling different from queuing?

it's not...okay your where PARTLY wrong...pardon me.

[Hatsune Miku 「 」]

it's not...okay your where PARTLY wrong...pardon me.

*you *were #grammarnazi and English isn't my first language

[SteveGrabowski]

no it's about 70% to 75% as good as 4 real cores.

it's better than a plain dual core, but not optimal.

 

In the best case hyperthreading on a core is worth maybe 30% of an extra core.

[i_build_nanosuits]

In the best case hyperthreading on a core is worth maybe 30% of an extra core.

that brings us to an i3 performing about 70 to 75% as good as an i5 isnt it?

[dragoon20005]

i3 4150 - 3.5G / 3MB cach

i5 4460 - 3.2G / 6MB cach

 

and the i3 has hyper threading?

 

does the cach make a big diffrence?

and is the i3 faster then the i5?

whats the budget of the build?

 

I got the i5 4460 here and it a great CPU for everyday use and def good for gaming of course

 

i3 if the general use is just basic web surfing/video watching

 

I got the parts from Video Pro and the cost of the system is only 778SGD without the GPU

 

i5 4460

MSI H97M-G43

8GB Kingston HyperX Fury Black 4GBx2

WD 1TB Blue

CoolerMaster N400

CoolerMaster V550 Gold PSU

[D2ultima]

In programs that are single-threaded or dual-threaded, the i3 will perform better.

 

In programs that are more multi-threaded, the i5 will perform better.

 

In programs that split a dual-core load across four cores (will look like CPU tops out at 50% in a game that'll do this), then the i5 will be a bit slower, BUT it won't hit 100% and will have more power freed up for things like: Steam. Teamspeak. Skype. Multitasking (watching streams on second monitor, for example). Playing music. Using a USB headset. Etc.