Out of curiosity

[Dr.Crazycheeze]

Samsung 970 evo m.2, and 2tb WD black but wondering if I could use intel optane on the hdd while i have the m.2. Im about to start a new build soon and was wondering if this was even possible and worth doing. 

[Fuzzleworth1]

8 minutes ago, Dr.Crazycheeze said:

Samsung 970 evo m.2, and 2tb WD black but wondering if I could use intel optane on the hdd while i have the m.2. Im about to start a new build soon and was wondering if this was even possible and worth doing. 

If you motherboard is optane ready and you have 2 m.2 slots then, yeah you could, but already having an SSD you wouldn't really notice anything.

[Enderman]

Just don't use optane, it's not worth it.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Just don't sue optane, it's not worth it.

Yeah no need for a lawsuit

What makes you say it's not worth it? Optane drives aren't particularly expensive

[Alexokratis]

Well, I actually thought about this aswell...

Isn't it possible to "Acellerate" the WD?

[Enderman]

3 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Yeah no need for a lawsuit

What makes you say it's not worth it? Optane drives aren't particularly expensive

All they are is just a larger cache for a hard drive.

Not only is it way too expensive for what it is (you could literally just buy a regular SSD) but there's a bunch of down sides.

You don't choose what goes on it, it does it itself, so the first time you open something it will not be fast, and if you don't use the same programs or games regularly there is practically no advantage.

It also has to constantly change what is on it depending on what your most often used stuff is, so it's always reading and writing between the SSD and HDD, which leads to more wasted writes on the SSD and more disk usage on the HDD.

If you are doing other stuff while the algorithm is moving data from the HDD to the optane drive then everything will be slowed down because of the high disk usage.

 

Basically, don't waste your money on optane and buy a larger or second SSD, or even just a faster better quality hard drive, so that YOU chose what data goes where. Not some stupid algorithm that just assumes what you use most often is what you want sped up, even if there is no benefit to speeding up certain data.

[Fasauceome]

8 minutes ago, Enderman said:

All they are is just a larger cache for a hard drive.

Not only is it way too expensive for what it is (you could literally just buy a regular SSD) but there's a bunch of down sides.

You don't choose what goes on it, it does it itself, so the first time you open something it will not be fast, and if you don't use the same programs or games regularly there is practically no advantage.

It also has to constantly change what is on it depending on what your most often used stuff is, so it's always reading and writing between the SSD and HDD, which leads to more wasted writes on the SSD and more disk usage on the HDD.

If you are doing other stuff while the algorithm is moving data from the HDD to the optane drive then everything will be slowed down because of the high disk usage.

 

Basically, don't waste your money on optane and buy a larger or second SSD, or even just a faster better quality hard drive, so that YOU chose what data goes where. Not some stupid algorithm that just assumes what you use most often is what you want sped up, even if there is no benefit to speeding up certain data.

Intel wouldn't have made something people didn't want. It was so popular that AMD followed up with storeMI, so it definitely has its uses.

[Enderman]

4 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

Intel wouldn't have made something people didn't want. It was so popular that AMD followed up with storeMI, so it definitely has its uses.

It's a stupid product, even linus said so.

Everyone on the forum knows it's jsut a waste.

Of course there will always be people that will still buy it, that doesn't mean that someone with a brain that can do logical thinking should do the same.

 

Either buy a larger SSD, or buy a faster hard drive. There is no reason to use optane cache.

If there's a special reason for needing a small amount of super fast cache for a certain program, there is free software to create ramdisks.

 

The standalone optane SSDs are a different matter, but that's not what we're discussing here.