Seasonic is raising PSU prices by $5 to $10 due to China US tarrifs

[GoldenLag]

Just now, Amazonsucks said:

It disincentivizes companies from selling out to china and makes the ones that have repatriate their manufacturing.

indeed, Indochina and India should see some increased growth with both regions having untapped potential. they both have major harbours to utilize, perfect to set up decentralized production network. 

1 minute ago, Amazonsucks said:

Also Foxconn is opening a huge plant in the US as a rsult of trade pressures. The tarriffs are working beautifully.

was that plant planned in light of this or 3-7 years earlier? these plants dont pop up on a whim. sorry, i dont have any info on the specifics

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

indeed, Indochina and India should see some increased growth with both regions having untapped potential. they both have major harbours to utilize, perfect to set up decentralized production network. 

was that plant planned in light of this or 3-7 years earlier? these plants dont pop up on a whim. sorry, i dont have any info on the specifics

Indonesia too

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, OrbitalBuzzsaw said:

Indonesia too

i believe indochina is the intire region. tbh a frickin huge country region perfect for decentraliced production and a massive merchant fleet. 

 

also foxconn plant in Wisconsin was planned before 2017, so that was allready in the works before tarrifs. good for Foxconn though that they avoid some of that headache though do glass come under these tarrifs? im kinda out of the picture here, but i dont think they do at all

 

edit: oh, Indochina is just Siam and that region, i meant to include Indoenesia and most of Oceania. sorry. 

 

edit2: doesnt seem like glass is hit by the tariffs, but glass imports to the US from Canada, mexico and EU are hit by tariffs. that was done in 2017-18. so that also seems unrelated. 

[Amazonsucks]

Persknally, id rather buy electronics made in Japan or S. Korea than any other Asian countries. The Japanese make the best with Korea close behind.

[Daegun]

19 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

It disincentivizes companies from selling out to china and makes the ones that have repatriate their manufacturing.

 

Also Foxconn is opening a huge plant in the US as a rsult of trade pressures. The tarriffs are working beautifully.

 

Though personally id rather there be a full embargo on chinese made stuff like we have with other hostile nations.

The foxconn factory has nothing to do with the tariffs, it was announced in 2017. What does impact it is the 3 billion in tax breaks and subsidies they're getting over the next 15 years.

[Amazonsucks]

Just now, Daegun said:

The foxconn factory has nothing to do with the tariffs, it was announced in 2017. What does impact it is the 3 billion in tax breaks and subsidies they're getting over the next 15 years.

Trump talked about making it difficult for China before he even got elected. The people who run Foxconn arent stupid(unethical yes). They knew Trump would hit China with tarrifs so obviously they wanted to get ahead of an administration that would be hostile to them.

[GoldenLag]

7 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

Persknally, id rather buy electronics made in Japan or S. Korea than any other Asian countries. The Japanese make the best with Korea close behind.

im guessing you are rocking a Fairphone, they are great when it comes to enviromental impact and labour friendly production

[Amazonsucks]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

im guessing you are rocking a Fairphone, they are great when it comes to enviromental impact and labour friendly production

Samsung S8 Active which is made in Korea.

[Daegun]

2 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

Trump talked about making it difficult for China before he even got elected. The people who run Foxconn arent stupid(unethical yes). They knew Trump would hit China with tarrifs so obviously they wanted to get ahead of an administration that would be hostile to them.

I mean, we're getting pretty far into ifs at that point. Being tough on China in trade doesn't necessitate tariffs, there were certainly other ways to go about fixing the imbalance, this is just the one that was chosen. Not to mention the announcement being made in 2017 means that it was a significant length of time before that happened that discussions began. 

[SteveGrabowski0]

7 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

Trade with China and consumers' unethical purchasing practices has undermined the economy for decades now. The tarriffs are long overdue.

The tariffs are closing the barn door after the horse has left and ran two counties away. The time for tariffs was in the early 1990s to stop China from becoming such an economic superpower.

[Amazonsucks]

1 minute ago, Daegun said:

I mean, we're getting pretty far into ifs at that point. Being tough on China in trade doesn't necessitate tariffs, there were certainly other ways to go about fixing the imbalance, this is just the one that was chosen. Not to mention the announcement being made in 2017 means that it was a significant length of time before that happened that discussions began. 

Whatever his administration would do, building a US plant would be a way to get around it. Unlike consumers, businessmen have to be proactive.

[Amazonsucks]

1 minute ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

The tariffs are closing the barn door after the horse has left and ran two counties away. The time for tariffs was in the early 1990s to stop China from becoming such an economic superpower.

He cant go back to the 90s when those horrible trade deals that screwed over the US so badly were made by idiots. He can try to make it right. Tarriffs are a good start.

[GoldenLag]

9 minutes ago, Amazonsucks said:

Trump talked about making it difficult for China before he even got elected. The people who run Foxconn arent stupid(unethical yes). They knew Trump would hit China with tarrifs so obviously they wanted to get ahead of an administration that would be hostile to them.

i mean, its not like Foxconn has any choice in which party to pour campaigning money into. i mean, trump has very little effect in this plant. with a plant being announched in 2017 with location would mean there were allready plans way ahead. a plant was coming regardless of who is president. 

 

honestly though, Foxconn is doing some valuable expancion into India, that is the sector that is more important, but even those plants were a long way coming. good to see them bring  jobs and higher wages into India. 

[SteveGrabowski0]

1 minute ago, Amazonsucks said:

He cant go back to the 90s when those horrible trade deals that screwed over the US so badly were made by idiots. He can try to make it right. Tarriffs are a good start.

They're idiotic now. Our manufacturing is gone and is never coming back, so now they're just taxes on consumption.

[Amazonsucks]

Just now, SteveGrabowski0 said:

They're idiotic now. Our manufacturing is gone and is never coming back, so now they're just taxes on consumption.

So that giant Foxconn plant that will employ Americans is a mirage?

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, SteveGrabowski0 said:

The tariffs are closing the barn door after the horse has left and ran two counties away. The time for tariffs was in the early 1990s to stop China from becoming such an economic superpower.

sorry, you cant stop 1,4 billion people from becoming a superpower without starving them to death. 

 

say hello to India in 2030.

"i heard there was a party" Indonesia and Indochina 2040

"hi" said Nigeria in 2050

"good to meet you" said the EU in 2050+

"anyone hungry" asked Brazil 2050++

 

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Amazonsucks said:

So that giant Foxconn plant that will employ Americans is a mirage?

compared to India? yes...........

[SteveGrabowski0]

1 minute ago, Amazonsucks said:

So that giant Foxconn plant that will employ Americans is a mirage?

Thank god Walker got voted out for that ridiculous corporate welfare deal he handed them.

[GoldenLag]

honestly, forget China, India, USA, south america, the EU

 

Nigeria is truly one of the most terrifying countries.  (the things you notice when watching population statistics)

[Sakkura]

3 hours ago, Amazonsucks said:

So that giant Foxconn plant that will employ Americans is a mirage?

Yes, that has already been exposed as basically just scamming the government. Foxconn will be bringing in Chinese engineers to work at the plant, while getting up to a million dollars per employee from the government.

 

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/29/18027032/foxconn-wisconsin-plant-jobs-deal-subsidy-governor-scott-walker

 

https://nordic.businessinsider.com/why-foxconns-wisconsin-factory-is-terrible-deal-2018-11?op=1&r=US&IR=T

 

 

[Amazonsucks]

1 hour ago, Arokhantos said:

Just in the US or everywhere to get even more profit elsewhere ? else i think its time we start doing tariffs of our own here in the EU

You have had them for a long time. Much of the world has tarriffs on imports. The US has been stupid not to have them.

 

[79wjd]

1 hour ago, Amazonsucks said:

You have had them for a long time. Much of the world has tarriffs on imports. The US has been stupid not to have them.

 

Oh yes, as we all know European manufacturing is thriving.

[Amazonsucks]

1 hour ago, 79wjd said:

Oh yes, as we all know European manufacturing is thriving.

Thats what socialism gets ya.