Random Stuttering in just about every game

[DeltaGreed]

After installing my new graphics card (RTX 2080) I had some minor problems that I was able to stomp out like crashes and odd frame rate but even after all of that many games still randomly stutter for no apparent reason. I ran my MSI afterburner and watched the stats and nothing really struck out on me at the time it stutters (then again i'm not very great with understanding all of it or what to look for so I could just be missing something)

There is no rhyme or reason for the stutter in regards to when it's happening in game play and when i turn on my computer after it being off the problem seems to be gone or at least less for a while.

I haven't change my core or any setting though that doesn't mean they haven't somehow haven't gotten change.

 

When I first installed the card my games were running  at insane FPS far greater then the FPS that the post release benchmarks were saying for those games, over 400 for rainbow six on max while the post release benchmarks say what it's closer to now. I don't know why.

 

While i didn't notice anything in MSI afterburner (again not sure what to look for) I did see while playing overwatch that the Temp lowered during the stutter with the in-game stats

I don't know if i need a new part, there's an issue with the software/driver (i've reinstalled the driver multiple times, which did fix all my other problems), hardware, or conflicting software/hardware

Please help if you can, this is stressing me out.

 

My specs, sorry they're a lot more then most, I don't know what's useful or not:

Acer H6 Series H236HLbid Black 23" 5ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LED Backlit LCD Monitor, IPS Panel Qty: 1

CORSAIR Hydro Series H75 CW-9060015-WW Water / Liquid CPU Cooler 120 MM

EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR 80 PLUS GOLD 750W ECO Mode Fully Modular NVIDIA SLI Ready and Crossfire Support Continuous Power Supply Qty: 1

G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Intel Z170 Platform Desktop Memory Model ... Qty: 1

GIGABYTE GA-Z170X-UD3 (rev. 1.0) LGA 1151 Intel Z170 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-6700K 8M Skylake Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1151 91W BX80662I76700K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 530

Microsoft Windows 10 Home - 64-bit - OEM Qty: 1

SAMSUNG SM951 256GB SSD 256G MZHPV256HDGL M.2 2280 PCIe PCI-Express 3.0 Internal Solid State Drive Bulk Package with USB3.0 ... - OEM Qty: 1

Seagate Desktop HDD ST3000DM001 3TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive Bare Drive Qty: 2

Nvida GEFORCE RTX 2080

 

[knightslugger]

make sure you're not using an excessive amount of screen overlays. I know Discord puts one on there, Steam puts one on there, Ubisoft, Geforce Experiance, the list goes on...

[DeltaGreed]

15 minutes ago, knightslugger said:

make sure you're not using an excessive amount of screen overlays. I know Discord puts one on there, Steam puts one on there, Ubisoft, Geforce Experiance, the list goes on...

I've got just about every overlay off It happens in games that don't have overlay like Escape from Tarkov and overwatch and I turned off Geforce all together to try and fix it.

Thanks for the help so far

 

[DailyProcrastinator]

Sounds like micro stuttering or screen tearing. That monitor is a 60Hz panel so even though it can output higher frame numbers than the refresh rate, it still renders them anyway, causing tearing. 

[DailyProcrastinator]

Like an RTX 2080 is so overkill for 1080p gaming and a cheap 60hz panel. I would recommend trying a game with V-sync on and see if the issue goes away.

[DeltaGreed]

4 minutes ago, JM21 said:

Like an RTX 2080 is so overkill for 1080p gaming and a cheap 60hz panel. I would recommend trying a game with V-sync on and see if the issue goes away.

A new monitor was my next buy, I'm waiting for cyber monday or for a decent sale. I'll give it a try when i get back from work. Thanks mate

[DailyProcrastinator]

Just now, DeltaGreed said:

A new monitor was my next buy, I'm waiting for cyber monday or for a decent sale. I'll give it a try when i get back from work. Thanks mate

No problem, it's the easiest test to try. Yes, you'll only get 60FPS but I can definitely see that monitor struggling to render 400FPS+. I get micro stuttering with my 144hz monitor and V-sync off, this is with my 1080Ti and G-sync, so I always have V-sync turned on.

[DeltaGreed]

5 minutes ago, JM21 said:

No problem, it's the easiest test to try. Yes, you'll only get 60FPS but I can definitely see that monitor struggling to render 400FPS+. I get micro stuttering with my 144hz monitor and V-sync off, this is with my 1080Ti and G-sync, so I always have V-sync turned on.

Micro stutter is when the screen "freezes" for a moment right? because i've always had tearing, until this I never heard of micro stuttering.

[DailyProcrastinator]

6 minutes ago, DeltaGreed said:

Micro stutter is when the screen "freezes" for a moment right? because i've always had tearing, until this I never heard of micro stuttering.

Yes, to me, you described micro stuttering and not tearing. "I had some minor problems that I was able to stomp out like crashes and odd frame rate but even after all of that many games still randomly stutter for no apparent reason."

That stuttering you mentioned is the defect of irregular delays between frames rendered by the GPU and what your monitor is capable of showing.

[DeltaGreed]

3 hours ago, JM21 said:

Yes, to me, you described micro stuttering and not tearing. "I had some minor problems that I was able to stomp out like crashes and odd frame rate but even after all of that many games still randomly stutter for no apparent reason."

That stuttering you mentioned is the defect of irregular delays between frames rendered by the GPU and what your monitor is capable of 

What would you recommend?

 

[kevinisbeast707]

Oh dear all of these problems with the early drivers for the 2080 are making me nervous of my evga step up to it on that note the improvements are from driver improvements and I'd expect that the micro stuttering may be from driver weirdness or old driver remnants still being there or something.

[DeltaGreed]

5 minutes ago, kevinisbeast707 said:

Oh dear all of these problems with the early drivers for the 2080 are making me nervous of my evga step up to it on that note the improvements are from driver improvements and I'd expect that the micro stuttering may be from driver weirdness or old driver remnants still being there or something.

Shouldn't be from old remnants, I used DDU to uninstall my old AMD and NIVIDA drivers to reinstall  them, though that doesn't  mean it didnt miss something.

[DailyProcrastinator]

3 hours ago, DeltaGreed said:

What would you recommend?

 

As I said first try V-sync and see what happens when your games are locked at 60FPS.

[DeltaGreed]

23 minutes ago, JM21 said:

As I said first try V-sync and see what happens when your games are locked at 60FPS.

it seems to have worked with Monster hunter

[DailyProcrastinator]

1 minute ago, DeltaGreed said:

it seems to have worked with Monster hunter

Have you tried other games yet?

[DeltaGreed]

12 hours ago, JM21 said:

Have you tried other games yet?

had to go to bed because i was dead tired, goingto try more today

 

Update: about a half hour on Overwatch and no issue with v-sync, can't say the same for my eyes at 60 FPS

 

 

 

[DeltaGreed]

11 hours ago, JM21 said:

Have you tried other games yet?

I was worried before becuase my old card didn't have this and i never v-syncd on it  but after looking into micro stuttering i saw  that RadeonPro with crossfire helped stop it

 

[DeltaGreed]

welp, After more testing it seems to work on some things, Rainbow six, overwatch and monster hunter but there are frame rate stutters in other games: escape from tarkov and maplestory 2 seem to still "lag/Sutter" but that might be just them as games. idk

[DailyProcrastinator]

12 hours ago, DeltaGreed said:

I was worried before becuase my old card didn't have this and i never v-syncd on it  but after looking into micro stuttering i saw  that RadeonPro with crossfire helped stop it

 

Yeah also that RTX 2080 is brand spanking new, the Nvidia software is going to have its bugs for the first few months. Also, typically with higher FPS you see more micro stuttering. The 2080 is significantly more powerful than your old Radeon card.

 

 

1 hour ago, DeltaGreed said:

welp, After more testing it seems to work on some things, Rainbow six, overwatch and monster hunter but there are frame rate stutters in other games: escape from tarkov and maplestory 2 seem to still "lag/Sutter" but that might be just them as games. idk

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Those games probably don't have very good V-sync optimization. Titles like Rainbow six, Overwatch, and Monster Hunter are better-developed games so I'm not necessarily surprised to see that. With that fancy-schmancy new GPU I would highly recommend a G-sync 1440p 100Hz+ monitor or at least a 160Hz 1080p G-sync monitor, that will make a difference.