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Hi, I need some advice on upgrading a pre-built system, because I want something I can play some light games in and do work on. My first thought was to get a dell optiplex and just put a gpu in there, but I decided to come here and ask for advice. Also, if it is good to get a dell optiplex can someone give me a good recommendation for a cheap one I can spend around 200 quid on the system as I can buy the gpu later. Also will the motherboards be standard size like ATX, mini ATX ect, or will they be some special size.

Thanks?

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I'm pretty sure Optiplexes come in different sizes... I've seen some with 6th gen i7's though, something like that will be your best bet. I don't know how the used market is there in Britain but they're all over the place in the US. a lot of i5's and i7-2600s though so just whatever fits your budget. Honestly an i7-2600 will still be fine for 1080p gaming. same with a slightly newer i5

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Maybe, but the biggest problems with prebuilts are the PSU and the case. Just make sure these are good enough for a gpu upgrade. Look for any 8th gen cpu, should be good enough for 1080p.

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If you want something a little more "special" you could always get yourself an LGA 1156 prebuilt and upgrade it with a cheapo Xeon from eBay. Thye OC pretty well and are still around 7th gen performance with the right overclock. 

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The newer Ryzen Dell desktops are quite good contenders for expandability.

Standard PSU size (its an actual recommendation to change the PSU in those, the original one is not great), standard PSU connectors, X370 (locked) chipset motherboard that if my mind serves right is also standard ATX, overall a nice machine for upgrades in the future.

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6 hours ago, BRoughley488 said:

Hi, I need some advice on upgrading a pre-built system, because I want something I can play some light games in and do work on. My first thought was to get a dell optiplex and just put a gpu in there, but I decided to come here and ask for advice. Also, if it is good to get a dell optiplex can someone give me a good recommendation for a cheap one I can spend around 200 quid on the system as I can buy the gpu later. Also will the motherboards be standard size like ATX, mini ATX ect, or will they be some special size.

Thanks?

Last night I almost hit the buy button:

 

Xeon X5690 (6 cores 12 threads) 6gb DDR 3 ram, no HDD, no OS $190 shipped Dell Workstation.  Just check Newegg for "X5690 workstation" - in this case this is a proprietary mobo.  You can even get them for around $220 or so with a drafting GPU to use short term.

 

EDIT the one I was looking at last night is gone, however this would be next runner up for me:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC0F7F36675&cm_re=x5690_workstation-_-1VK-0001-1FEV2-_-Product

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4 hours ago, Chevy_Monsenhor said:

The newer Ryzen Dell desktops are quite good contenders for expandability.

Standard PSU size (its an actual recommendation to change the PSU in those, the original one is not great), standard PSU connectors, X370 (locked) chipset motherboard that if my mind serves right is also standard ATX, overall a nice machine for upgrades in the future.

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Okay thanks I will consider my options and might try that 

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2 hours ago, Tristerin said:

Last night I almost hit the buy button:

 

Xeon X5690 (6 cores 12 threads) 6gb DDR 3 ram, no HDD, no OS $190 shipped Dell Workstation.  Just check Newegg for "X5690 workstation" - in this case this is a proprietary mobo.  You can even get them for around $220 or so with a drafting GPU to use short term.

 

EDIT the one I was looking at last night is gone, however this would be next runner up for me:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIAC0F7F36675&cm_re=x5690_workstation-_-1VK-0001-1FEV2-_-Product

Oh wow that it a really good price for those parts I might buy the one u recommended I will just have to wait and see thanks. 

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1 minute ago, BRoughley488 said:

Oh wow that it a really good price for those parts I might buy the one u recommended I will just have to wait and see thanks. 

Cant beat it.  6 cores 12 threads.  Its EASILY overclockable.  Supports tons of RAM (though I believe they only support certain memory sizes on each DIMM slot) - huge case for expansion - big enough PSU to support a GPU of todays standards.  Literally slap a HDD, OS, and GPU and it will game 1080p for a few more years.  And since I have HDD's, free OS's and extra GPU's Im thinking of grabbing one and selling a "Mid Range Gaming PC" on Craigslist LOLOL.

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37004594?

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https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/37628874?

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Just now, Tristerin said:

Cant beat it.  6 cores 12 threads.  Its EASILY overclockable.  Supports tons of RAM (though I believe they only support certain memory sizes on each DIMM slot) - huge case for expansion - big enough PSU to support a GPU of todays standards.  Literally slap a HDD, OS, and GPU and it will game 1080p for a few more years.  And since I have HDD's, free OS's and extra GPU's Im thinking of grabbing one and selling a "Mid Range Gaming PC" on Craigslist LOLOL.

Ye I'll probably want to upgrade in the future. My mate said he'd sell me a 1050ti for 110 quid so I could use that 

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On 10/15/2018 at 7:09 AM, BRoughley488 said:

Hi, I need some advice on upgrading a pre-built system, because I want something I can play some light games in and do work on. My first thought was to get a dell optiplex and just put a gpu in there, but I decided to come here and ask for advice. Also, if it is good to get a dell optiplex can someone give me a good recommendation for a cheap one I can spend around 200 quid on the system as I can buy the gpu later. Also will the motherboards be standard size like ATX, mini ATX ect, or will they be some special size.

Thanks?

I was able to buy a dell optiplex 790mt with 8gb of ram for $90usd and then bought a single fan EVGA gtx 750ti sc for $55usd and then another 8gb of ram for $20usd

 

On 10/15/2018 at 7:09 AM, BRoughley488 said:

Hi, I need some advice on upgrading a pre-built system, because I want something I can play some light games in and do work on. My first thought was to get a dell optiplex and just put a gpu in there, but I decided to come here and ask for advice. Also, if it is good to get a dell optiplex can someone give me a good recommendation for a cheap one I can spend around 200 quid on the system as I can buy the gpu later. Also will the motherboards be standard size like ATX, mini ATX ect, or will they be some special size.

Thanks?

 

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