Anyone with an RTX 2080 @ 4K?

[Ebony Falcon]

2 hours ago, SolarNova said:

The biggest deal breaker of the 2080 is the price difference between it and the 1080ti ..atleast in the UK

 

The cheapest 2080 is £710 - £720

The cheapest 1080ti is £580-£615

 

Theres no comparison there lol,

thats true but also a decent no cheep and cherfull 1080ti is around 750 still 

[SolarNova]

8 minutes ago, Ebony Falcon said:

thats true but also a decent no cheep and cherfull 1080ti is around 750 still 

Cheap and chearfull isnt really a thing with 1080ti's tbh.

If i was to grab a Gigabtye Gaming OC or MSI Armor, both low end 1080ti's, stick a waterblock on them, they will perform really well even vs top end cards.

 

If i could get 2 of those for around £700-£800 for the pair, i can then spend another £200-£300 on 2 water blocks and a couple extra fittings and upgrade from my single 780.

Alass , prices are just stupid atm, theres no reason to spend £500 per used one of those when for 80 to £100 more i can get them new.

[naib]

On 10/11/2018 at 11:25 AM, Optane^ said:

"Are you having to turn down details to get comfortable FPS, and if so are you happy with the graphical compromise (if any) that you're having to make?"

 

Your opinion of graphical quality and being satisfied, will be completely different than someone elses.

While that is true there is nothing wrong with him asking for other's opinion.

[Parptarf]

8 hours ago, asus killer said:

about the same performance for a much higher price tag. Still not judging. 

So? What's your point here? I wanted the 2080 more than a 1080 Ti, I got one and I'm happy. Besides, the difference was like $50 when comparing it to a similar card. Much higher price, it was not.

 

Some people will spend a little more for newer tech. Deal with it.

[ramm]

The prices here are insane. A basic gtx1080ti for over €800 and the rtx2080 starts at €900

 

Also there is almost no offer in my local pc stores. I would've need to order them online from places I never bought before and I always dislike that for expensive stuff like this.

 

The rtx2080ti isn't even a possibilty with prices starting at €1300

[maizenblue]

On 10/12/2018 at 11:27 AM, atomicus said:

 

This is totally valid. And at risk of taking my own thread off topic ha, it also completely ignores the future benefit that WILL be seen in RTX games. Anyone who thinks RTX won't be levied in some games in the near future is deluding themselves. It MAY not be relevant if those games aren't of interest, but anyone buying a 1080Ti today is taking a gamble on that given we just don't know. Of course, one could argue buying a 2080 is a risk also, if the user never ends up wanting to partake in any of those RTX experiences... but I know where I'd rather put my money, and it isn't on old technology that's already hit its absolute peak, and where I know for a fact that any and all RTX content would be out of bounds for me. I'm not about to willingly exclude myself from something that may be an extremely significant gaming revolution... even if there is a chance it may not. But that's just my own personal stand point on it.

The point is that by the time that happens, the rtx 2080 wont be able to keep up with xxx titles and will be outdated anyway.

 

By the time ray traving is widespread will be A couple gpu generations from now and people will be upgrading anyway, so why not save money with a 1080ti and use the money saved towards the next gen card, or a better monitor or cpu. 

[GamerDude]

26 minutes ago, maizenblue said:

The point is that by the time that happens, the rtx 2080 wont be able to keep up with xxx titles and will be outdated anyway.

 

By the time ray traving is widespread will be A couple gpu generations from now and people will be upgrading anyway, so why not save money with a 1080ti and use the money saved towards the next gen card, or a better monitor or cpu. 

Again, depends on where you're located, a new Asus Strix GTX 1080 Ti is within 70USD of my Palit RTX 2080 Ti making it a no brainer for me. Yes, there are cheaper GTX 1080 Ti, and many of the GTX1080 Ti's in my neck of the woods are priced similarly to the RTX 2080, a Zotac GTX 1080 Ti AMP is about 878USD while the Zotac RTX 2080 is 935USD, the Zotac GTX1080 Ti AMP Xtreme is actually about 15.25USD cheaper than its RTX2080 sibling. Pricing here in my neck of the woods has made it pretty clear as to which to get at a certain price level.

 

On the plus side of things for the GTX1080 Ti's here, a used GTX 1080 Ti can be had for quite a reasonable price, around 500USD to about 760USD (on the high side, usually for what is seen as 1st tier makers like Asus, EVGA, MSI and so forth).....so, those shopping a used former flagship card or the GTX1080 are in for a good time. Heck, I got my Leadtek GTX 1080 Hurricane OC at about 325USD (comes with just under 2.5 years of warranty left), a bargain in my neck of the woods.

[Parptarf]

It never cease to amaze me how some people get salty because someone else bought a produkt they personally didn't think was worth it.

[i_build_nanosuits]

On 10/13/2018 at 1:13 PM, GamerDude said:

Again, depends on where you're located, a new Asus Strix GTX 1080 Ti is within 70USD of my Palit RTX 2080 Ti making it a no brainer for me.

What?!? are you high...700$ more is a FORTUNE to spend for for such a small performance bump!

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti/3918vs4027

[SolarNova]

19 minutes ago, Parptarf said:

It never cease to amaze me how some people get salty because someone else bought a produkt they personally didn't think was worth it.

I think if people are salty, its more to do with the fact other people who buy these products, help encourage Nvidia, and other companies, to continue raising prices while offering less in return. Its no good for consumers as a whole.

 

I personaly dont get 'salty' about it, if som1 wants to spend money on somthing thats their choice, BUT that doesnt mean i wont turn around and tell them, "hey, honestly that was a bad call becouse ~~~~" if they start a conversation about it.

[Dedayog]

37 minutes ago, Parptarf said:

It never cease to amaze me how some people get salty because someone else bought a produkt they personally didn't think was worth it.

It has to do with the way they talk about it.  You said you've never been happier in a GPU purchase, so happy you went 2080 over 1080Ti. 

 

It's that you're blowing smoke up your own ass as well as ours.  It's a very small increase in performance, there won't be decent ray tracing to take advantage of it for a few years, and it cost quite a bit more.  

 

If you had been honest and said you wanted to buy the new hotness and you were willing to pay a good bit for a small increase (which we do in cars all the time, for example) it would have been fine.  But you had to make it out like the 2080 was so much better and worth it.  We know it's not based on dollars/performance, you know it's not, but not saying I care if you spend the money, I may have too if I had to choose between 1080Ti and 2080 right now.

 

I would NOT have said I was so happy I did though, like it was a fantastic decision.

 

it's about the bullshit.  That's what I personally have issues with.  Spend your money how you want, don't tout the 2080 as that much better cuz it isn't.   

[atomicus]

2 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

It has to do with the way they talk about it.  You said you've never been happier in a GPU purchase, so happy you went 2080 over 1080Ti. 

 

It's that you're blowing smoke up your own ass as well as ours.  It's a very small increase in performance, there won't be decent ray tracing to take advantage of it for a few years, and it cost quite a bit more.  

 

If you had been honest and said you wanted to buy the new hotness and you were willing to pay a good bit for a small increase (which we do in cars all the time, for example) it would have been fine.  But you had to make it out like the 2080 was so much better and worth it.  We know it's not based on dollars/performance, you know it's not, but not saying I care if you spend the money, I may have too if I had to choose between 1080Ti and 2080 right now.

 

I would NOT have said I was so happy I did though, like it was a fantastic decision.

 

it's about the bullshit.  That's what I personally have issues with.  Spend your money how you want, don't tout the 2080 as that much better cuz it isn't.   

 

Any future benefit of the 2080 vs 1080Ti is still largely an unknown at present, but while full ray tracing is still years away (2080Ti isn't even going to be capable of that), we ARE going to see RTX features leveraged in this generation. To what extent that will be and in what games, again is an unknown, but devs are working on it and who knows... there will be SOME added benefit to RTX, it's just going to be a question of whether it's worth it or not, and that's going to be entirely subjective. The 2080 is a safer bet than the 2080Ti in that sense though, unless you're at 4K where that extra horsepower will be utilised more regularly and could see the difference between silky smooth gameplay and something far more prone to stuttering. Of course, such issues are down to poor game optimisation more than the GPU. There are plenty of games where the 1080Ti still does a fine job at 4K.

 

Still, as previously stated, a brand new 1080Ti purchase today is big F*** YOU to RTX, and clearly indicates a belief that all those features aren't going to amount to anything you want to experience this generation. That may well be the case, but it also may not... it's a gamble either way really, but the extra spent on the 2080 over the 1080Ti isn't enough to lose sleep over, and in some countries that difference is so small you're just as well to get the 2080. Those who've bought the 2080Ti on the promise of full ray traced game experiences are going to be sorely disappointed however, especially as the majority are gaming at 1440p/UW/4K.

[GamerDude]

Just now, i_build_nanosuits said:

What?!? are you high...700$ more is a FORTUNE to spend for for such a small performance bump!

http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1080-Ti-vs-Nvidia-RTX-2080-Ti/3918vs4027

Whatcha talking about? The difference between the Asus Strix GTX1080 Ti and the Palit RTX 2080 Ti is just US$70.....not US$700.

[Dedayog]

2 minutes ago, GamerDude said:

Whatcha talking about? The difference between the Asus Strix GTX1080 Ti and the Palit RTX 2080 Ti is just US$70.....not US$700.

The 2080 Ti or 2080?

 

$70 difference for the 1080Ti and 2080, I'll buy.  2080Ti?  No way.

[Parptarf]

4 hours ago, jstudrawa said:

It has to do with the way they talk about it.  You said you've never been happier in a GPU purchase, so happy you went 2080 over 1080Ti. 

 

It's that you're blowing smoke up your own ass as well as ours.  It's a very small increase in performance, there won't be decent ray tracing to take advantage of it for a few years, and it cost quite a bit more.  

 

If you had been honest and said you wanted to buy the new hotness and you were willing to pay a good bit for a small increase (which we do in cars all the time, for example) it would have been fine.  But you had to make it out like the 2080 was so much better and worth it.  We know it's not based on dollars/performance, you know it's not, but not saying I care if you spend the money, I may have too if I had to choose between 1080Ti and 2080 right now.

 

I would NOT have said I was so happy I did though, like it was a fantastic decision.

 

it's about the bullshit.  That's what I personally have issues with.  Spend your money how you want, don't tout the 2080 as that much better cuz it isn't.   

I never said the 2080 was much better. I just say I am happy I bought one. You're the one spewing bullshit. 

 

I wanted a newer card more because it's newer. I know perfectly well it's within a few percentages of a 1080 Ti at a much higher price.

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, Parptarf said:

I never said the 2080 was much better. I just say I am happy I bought one. You're the one spewing bullshit. 

 

I wanted a newer card more because it's newer. I know perfectly well it's within a few percentages of a 1080 Ti at a much higher price.

Oh, I apologize then.  I misconstrued what you posted, could be taken wrong:

 

  On 10/12/2018 at 3:16 AM, GamerDude said:

In fact, for 4K the RTX 2080 tends to pull ahead of the GTX1080Ti, even at 1440P, the RTX 2080 draws or pulls ahead most of the time...

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_rtx_2080_gamerock_premium_review,13.html

 

When you are right, you're right.

 

 

I'm very happy I got a 2080 over a 1080 Ti. Can't remember last I was this content with a purchase honestly.

 

 

[Parptarf]

6 minutes ago, jstudrawa said:

Oh, I apologize then.  I misconstrued what you posted, could be taken wrong:

 

  On 10/12/2018 at 3:16 AM, GamerDude said:

In fact, for 4K the RTX 2080 tends to pull ahead of the GTX1080Ti, even at 1440P, the RTX 2080 draws or pulls ahead most of the time...

https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/palit_geforce_rtx_2080_gamerock_premium_review,13.html

 

When you are right, you're right.

 

 

I'm very happy I got a 2080 over a 1080 Ti. Can't remember last I was this content with a purchase honestly.

 

 

Take out of context much? I wrote it was identical as a 1080 Ti, he corrected me. I then wrote in a different paragraph that I was happy with my purchase.

[Parptarf]

Anyways. Have fun I'm out.

[i_build_nanosuits]

2 hours ago, GamerDude said:

Whatcha talking about? The difference between the Asus Strix GTX1080 Ti and the Palit RTX 2080 Ti is just US$70.....not US$700.

70$ difference between a 1080ti and a 2080ti?!

that must be the most overpriced 1080ti there ever was then...