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6 minutes ago, DVA said:

It makes sense to omit the red one circled because there is one directly above and below it. Is that why you suggest that one? @TVwazhere

Correct.

 

Most ATX motherboards do not have that screw hole spot. For example I just went to newegg, typed in ATX motherboard and this is the first one that came up; an MSI B360. Note that it does not include that hole location I marked in red in the above example at all!

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=atx+motherboard&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1

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That hole is most commonly used for mATX boards, demonstrated vividly well here on this MSI B360 Mortar Board

Spoiler

It's like they knew to circle the hole cutouts!

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Hey guys! So I'm trying to install my motherboard into my case, but I have an issue that might not be one at all. I just need help. 

 

My Fractal Design Meshify C case came with 8 standoffs and my EVGA z370 motherboard has 10 standoff slots. Do I have to use all 10 or will the 8 be fine? 

 

Can someone circle which ones I can leave out if it's possible? 

 

Thanks!! I dont want to have to get a different case unless I have to...

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You don't have to use all 10 but using them all would be better. Have you checked the case accessories for any extra standoffs?

 

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It's recommended you use all 10 but not quite mandatory. As a matter of fact I think my MB doesn't have all the standoffs in.

 

Make sure you have the corner ones installed and the center one. As well as whereever there may be a heavy amount of weight (ie. near GPU and CPU cooler)

 

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2 minutes ago, WoodenMarker said:

You don't have to use all 10 but using them all would be better. Have you checked the case accessories for any extra standoffs?

 

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Thanks for moving the topic. Yes I checked over and over. 

 

1 minute ago, dj_ripcord said:

It's recommended you use all 10 but not quite mandatory. As a matter of fact I think my MB doesn't have all the standoffs in.

 

Make sure you have the corner ones installed and the center one. As well as whereever there may be a heavy amount of weight (ie. near GPU and CPU cooler)

 

My case only came with 8 sadly... So the i would be fine without the other 2? I am using an AIO cooler if that helps the situation at all. 

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Just now, DVA said:

Thanks for moving the topic. Yes I checked over and over. 

 

My case only came with 8 sadly... So the i would be fine without the other 2? I am using an AIO cooler if that helps the situation at all. 

The AIO cooler will be high in weight. Like I said, just make sure the screws are installed in the locations where there is high strain on the board. You should have no issues.

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5 minutes ago, dj_ripcord said:

The AIO cooler will be high in weight. Like I said, just make sure the screws are installed in the locations where there is high strain on the board. You should have no issues.

Ok, thanks! I hate to be a bother but could you indicate which ones would be best to leave out without a standoff? 

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1 minute ago, DVA said:

Ok, thanks! I hate to be a bother but could you indicate which ones would be best to leave out without a standoff? 

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Green: put a screw there

Orange: Doesn't really matter

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7 minutes ago, DVA said:

My freaking hero. Thank you!

no, you want to use the two in orange. do not use the one above the bottom left, and the middle one should be pre installed in the case as a sort of "guide". It shouldn't have a screw to go in it, it should just be a pin sticking up in the case. Use the other 8 along the outside (except the one above the bottom left like i said). Not using the one in the middle top will make you bend the board when installing RAM

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11 minutes ago, dj_ripcord said:

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Green: put a screw there

Orange: Doesn't really matter

I know which screw holes to use but, on your example, all the color dots you added look the same to me. I'm color blind, just like around 10% of the world population, so I'm sure there would be others who would prefer a color blind friendly example, such as putting a bold X on the locations that must have a screw.

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4 hours ago, DVA said:

My Fractal Design Meshify C case came with 8 standoffs and my EVGA z370 motherboard has 10 standoff slots. Do I have to use all 10 or will the 8 be fine? 

No, you should use 8 Standoffs.

 

And you might want to take a look at the Manual of the Motherboard right now.

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4 hours ago, dj_ripcord said:

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Green: put a screw there

Orange: Doesn't really matter

Your example is shit as you put the orange in the wrong holes.

The middle buttom one should have a screw but the middle top one is really important as it is close to the CPU Socket and thus holds the Heatsink!!

 

The buttom right one is what you could omit as there is nothing there as the one on the left that is not in line with other holes (2nd from the buttom) and I highly recommend @DVA to NOT USE THAT HOLE!
Because many other ATX Motherboards do not have that hole, its mostly only for µATX and rare to find on modern Boards. So I'd not use that. So that leaves one other hole.

The top right has the Memory and ATX, as does the right/middle one. So that only leaves the right buttom one that you might want to omit. The center one might also an option.

But top middle one: HELL; NO!

 

@Lady Fitzgerald should be able to distinguish the holes with my description.

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3 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Your example is shit as you put the orange in the wrong holes.

The middle buttom one should have a screw but the middle top one is really important as it is close to the CPU Socket and thus holds the Heatsink!!

 

The buttom right one is what you could omit as there is nothing there as the one on the left that is not in line with other holes (2nd from the buttom) and I highly recommend @DVA to NOT USE THAT HOLE!
Because many other ATX Motherboards do not have that hole, its mostly only for µATX and rare to find on modern Boards. So I'd not use that. So that leaves one other hole.

The top right has the Memory and ATX, as does the right/middle one. So that only leaves the right buttom one that you might want to omit. The center one might also an option.

But top middle one: HELL; NO!

 

@Lady Fitzgerald should be able to distinguish the holes with my description.

I guess it's a good thing I didn't do it last night. 

 

Thank you for your explanation of why to omit the bottom right one. Yes my case came with the one in the middle. 

 

I'll try it out later today

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To clarify, you have 8 standoffs, but the one on the center should be already filled in. Kinda like a free space in bingo.

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The Fractal Design cases use a middle alignment standoff nipple to help align the motherboard to perfectly match the other (however many) holes you're using for your motherboard (whether thats mITX, mATX or ATX)

 

Therefore I recommend the following hole layout

 

Blue Is your freebee standoff

Green is the recomended stand off locations

Red is the one you can omit

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18 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

To clarify, you have 8 standoffs, but the one on the center should be already filled in. Kinda like a free space in bingo.

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The Fractal Design cases use a middle alignment standoff nipple to help align the motherboard to perfectly match the other (however many) holes you're using for your motherboard (whether thats mITX, mATX or ATX)

 

Therefore I recommend the following hole layout

 

Blue Is your freebee standoff

Green is the recomended stand off locations

Red is the one you can omit

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I am in tears of how many suggestions I am getting. Tears of both sadness and happiness because I don't know which advice to follow...

 

It makes sense to omit the red one circled because there is one directly above and below it. Is that why you suggest that one? @TVwazhere

 

But what @Stefan Payne said also makes sense, if it's not on most other motherboards than it shouldn't be an issue. 

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6 minutes ago, DVA said:

It makes sense to omit the red one circled because there is one directly above and below it. Is that why you suggest that one? @TVwazhere

Correct.

 

Most ATX motherboards do not have that screw hole spot. For example I just went to newegg, typed in ATX motherboard and this is the first one that came up; an MSI B360. Note that it does not include that hole location I marked in red in the above example at all!

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=atx+motherboard&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Spoiler

13-144-154-V11.jpg

That hole is most commonly used for mATX boards, demonstrated vividly well here on this MSI B360 Mortar Board

Spoiler

It's like they knew to circle the hole cutouts!

13-144-158-V07.jpg

 

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9 minutes ago, TVwazhere said:

Correct.

 

Most ATX motherboards do not have that screw hole spot. For example I just went to newegg, typed in ATX motherboard and this is the first one that came up; an MSI B360. Note that it does not include that hole location I marked in red in the above example at all!

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=atx+motherboard&ignorear=0&N=-1&isNodeId=1

  Hide contents

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That hole is most commonly used for mATX boards, demonstrated vividly well here on this MSI B360 Mortar Board

  Hide contents

It's like they knew to circle the hole cutouts!

13-144-158-V07.jpg

 

You know what, I'll use your answer. It makes a lot of sense to me comparing it to other motherboards and also just physically. 

Thank you!!

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