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Just replaced my Ryzen 7 1700 with Core i7-8086K (First impression and Overclocking Experience)

WHWidjaja

Hello, I just replaced my Ryzen 7 1700 with Core i7-8086K. I wanted to share a bit about it from

 

Background:

I am a casual gamer who mostly play AAA games. My goal is to play AAA games on maximum settings with highest FPS possible. That's the reason why i purchased GTX 1080Ti. I had my reservation about Ryzen being not the best companion for GTX 1080Ti especially from gaming perspective when I was about to purchase my Ryzen 7 1700. However, I decided to give it a try since there was so much hype on the brand-new Zen architecture from AMD that many said to bring back AMD's best moment with Athlon decade ago. However, after trying approximately 20ish AAA games, it's easy to notice that i haven't really achieved the maximum potential of my GTX 1080Ti. Surely, it can achieve minimum 60FPS benchmark at highest settings for any games, but the framerate is noticeably lower than expected and sometimes i can notice some choppiness and lagging in some games. That being said, after giving it a try for year, I decided it's time for me to move back to Intel's platform. My goal is simple: I want Intel's fastest gaming processor that is easily overclock-able in low vcore. After couple of research back and forth, I decided to buy Intel Core i7-8086K and ASUS Maximus X Formula as its motherboard companion (I am also planning to do custom water cooling at the end of this year).

 

Previous spec:

AMD Ryzen 7 1700 @ 3.8GHz 1.2v

ASRock X370 Taichi

 

New spec:

Intel Core i7-8086K @ 5.0GHz 1.25v

ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula

G.SKILL TridentZ F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW @ DDR4 3466 14-14-14-32 2T

 

(see signature for complete spec)

 

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First impression and overclocking experience:

My goal is to run at 5GHz 24/7. OOB, 5GHz is just a matter of setting the core ratio to 50. But I want to run it on the lowest vcore as possible. After spending roughly 30mins to quick test some settings. I decided to stop and take a break at 1.25v. I will run an overnight stress test tonight. I also have a feeling that I may be able to push the vcore a bit lower. My initial impression: as expected, overclocking on Intel's platform is a lot easier and much more fun. I am sure Ryzen 2 platform offers much better overclocking experience compared to its predecessor. I also got an easy 1000ish jump from my initial Ryzen 7 1700 setup on 3DMark.

 

Cinebench R15

 

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AIDA64 (5 mins CPU stress test)

 

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3DMark Time Spy

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/28794166?

 

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Next step:

I'll spend next 2 weeks to test out many AAA games that I have played and report back.

 

Thanks!

CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 5.1GHz 1.3v Delidded | Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula | RAM: 2X G.SKILL TridentZ F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW @ DDR4 3600 14-14-14-34 2T | GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti SEA Hawk EK X | Case: Phanteks Evolv X | Storage:Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 250GB SSD; Crucial MX500 2TB 3D NAND SSD | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850W | Display: Alienware AW3418DW 3440x1440 120Hz G-SYNC | Keyboard: Drevo BladeMaster PRO Wireless Cherry MX Blue | Mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless | Headset: Logitech G533 Wireless | Sound: NuForce uDAC5; Audioengine A2+; Polk Audio PSW111 | OS: Windows 10 Enterprise | PCPartPicker

 

CPU Waterblock: EK Velocity | GPU Waterblock: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti SEA Hawk EK X | Pump: EK XTOP DDC 3.2 PWM Elite | Radiators: Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 360mm; Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 360mm | Reservoir: Barrowch Boxfish 250mm | Fittings: EK Fittings | Fans: 6X Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM

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I upgraded from an i7 4790k to a Ryzen 1700 last year and both CPU's have their significant strengths. The i7 had (when it released) the highest IPC of any CPU on the market. It paired very well with my GPU at the time (R9 290x) and performed SIGNIFICANTLY better than the FX 8320 I had before it. I paired it with an Asus Maximus VII Formula, a board that allowed me to overclock up to 4.8ghz with a Corsair H100i, but beyond that I hated that motherboard. Worst $350 I ever spent.

 

The i7 wasn't perfect, however. Even with a the H100i and at stock speeds, it ran MUCH hotter than I expected. Up to 70c at load. When overclocked I would see upwards of 85c, but the performance was spectacular. I did some video rendering, gaming, and programming. Multitasking is key for me and my three monitors, and the i7 did well.

 

Then I upgraded to the Ryzen and I was amazed. I hit 4ghz on all 8cores/16threads easily, 3000mhz on the ram, and never have seen it eclipse 65c. At 4ghz it matches my 4790k's IPC (at stock, the i7 IPC was better OC'd) and it doesn't seem to hinder the performance of my GTX 1080, especially not in CPU heavy games like Battlefield. Pair that with a 75 watt TDP and I couldn't be happier. Multitasking on the Ryzen is incredible and running emulators/virtual machines is a breeze. Also factor in the price of the Ryzen and it is hard to beat.

 

When you're talking sheer gaming performance, Intel still has the edge. Intel's incredible IPC is still alive and well, and it shows in games and any other software that doesn't utilize all of your CPU cores. Either way, you have to appreciate what AMD has accomplished. Had it not been for Ryzen, Intel would still be producing 4c/8t CPU's for over $300 at the minimum.

QUOTE ME IF YOU WANT A REPLY!

 

PC #1

Ryzen 7 3700x@4.4ghz (All core) | MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon | Crucial Ballistix 2x16gb (OC 3600mhz)

MSI GTX 1080 8gb | SoundBlaster ZXR | Corsair HX850

Samsung 960 256gb | Samsung 860 1gb | Samsung 850 500gb

HGST 4tb, HGST 2tb | Seagate 2tb | Seagate 2tb

Custom CPU/GPU water loop

 

PC #2

Ryzen 7 1700@3.8ghz (All core) | Aorus AX370 Gaming K5 | Vengeance LED 3200mhz 2x8gb

Sapphire R9 290x 4gb | Asus Xonar DS | Corsair RM650

Samsung 850 128gb | Intel 240gb | Seagate 2tb

Corsair H80iGT AIO

 

Laptop

Core i7 6700HQ | Samsung 2400mhz 2x8gb DDR4

GTX 1060M 3gb | FiiO E10k DAC

Samsung 950 256gb | Sandisk Ultra 2tb SSD

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Very interested to see your results with other games. If you don't mind, could you send me a PM when you do so that I don't miss it? Thx

GTX 1070 RYZEN 5 1600, 16GB 3200mhz, G Pro Wireless,144HZ.

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do most cl14 tridentZ hit 3466? or did you win the lottery?

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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1 hour ago, Online_Cesspool said:

Very interested to see your results with other games. If you don't mind, could you send me a PM when you do so that I don't miss it? Thx

sure will do. thanks.

 

1 hour ago, xg32 said:

do most cl14 tridentZ hit 3466? or did you win the lottery?

This specific model of GSKILL TridentZ has Samsung B-Die chip on it. I can hit 3600 CL14 easily on 1.45v. but until my custom water cooling build completes, i think i'll stick with 1.395v for 3466 CL14 for lower overall temp. 

CPU: Intel Core i7-8086K @ 5.1GHz 1.3v Delidded | Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus X Formula | RAM: 2X G.SKILL TridentZ F4-3200C14D-16GTZKW @ DDR4 3600 14-14-14-34 2T | GPU: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti SEA Hawk EK X | Case: Phanteks Evolv X | Storage:Samsung 960 EVO M.2 NVMe 250GB SSD; Crucial MX500 2TB 3D NAND SSD | PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA G3 850W | Display: Alienware AW3418DW 3440x1440 120Hz G-SYNC | Keyboard: Drevo BladeMaster PRO Wireless Cherry MX Blue | Mouse: Logitech G Pro Wireless | Headset: Logitech G533 Wireless | Sound: NuForce uDAC5; Audioengine A2+; Polk Audio PSW111 | OS: Windows 10 Enterprise | PCPartPicker

 

CPU Waterblock: EK Velocity | GPU Waterblock: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 Ti SEA Hawk EK X | Pump: EK XTOP DDC 3.2 PWM Elite | Radiators: Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 360mm; Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 360mm | Reservoir: Barrowch Boxfish 250mm | Fittings: EK Fittings | Fans: 6X Noctua NF-A12x15 PWM

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38 minutes ago, WHWidjaja said:

sure will do. thanks.

 

This specific model of GSKILL TridentZ has Samsung B-Die chip on it. I can hit 3600 CL14 easily on 1.45v. but until my custom water cooling build completes, i think i'll stick with 1.395v for 3466 CL14 for lower overall temp. 

hmmm ya, im looking into heavily overclocked ram with a binned cpu on my next build, been looking at the cl15 3600 or the cl17 4000 (both b-die), just waiting for the 9900k and trying to see which mobo can run them thanks for the info.

5950x 1.33v 5.05 4.5 88C 195w ll R20 12k ll drp4 ll x570 dark hero ll gskill 4x8gb 3666 14-14-14-32-320-24-2T (zen trfc)  1.45v 45C 1.15v soc ll 6950xt gaming x trio 325w 60C ll samsung 970 500gb nvme os ll sandisk 4tb ssd ll 6x nf12/14 ippc fans ll tt gt10 case ll evga g2 1300w ll w10 pro ll 34GN850B ll AW3423DW

 

9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA 30 non90 tie ftw3 1920//10000 0.85v 300w 71C ll  6x nf14 ippc 2000rpm ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll l sandisk 4tb sata ssd +4tb exssd backup ll 2x 500gb samsung 970 evo raid 0 llCorsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll w10p ll NEC PA241w ll pa32ucg-k

 

prebuilt 5800 stock ll 2x8gb ddr4 cl17 3466 ll oem 3080 0.85v 1890//10000 290w 74C ll 27gl850b ll pa272w ll w11

 

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