gtx 1070 SLI or "trash" 1 for gtx 1080TI

[meh123]

hi dear community i recently bought a screen(4k 55" 100hz ips) at a good value 3500DKK(548USD) (in my country)

 

and so i bought a hdmi 2.0 cable to be able to play games at 4k 60fps but then the sad truth happened, my gtx 1070 was unable to output consistent fps to my monitor so that is why i am asking if i should get a second gtx 1070(i already have sli-bridge) or buy 1080ti to not risk my cpu bottlenecking my now 2 cards

 

will 2 gtx 1070s in SLI be bottlenecked by an i5 6600k @4.5ghz or should i just buy a new gtx 1080ti and sell my old card...

the card i am looking at is currently at a price 44% lower than MSRP as a used part i will of course look into it and check if it is in "100%" working condition(original box included/packaging included

 

a new gtx 1080TI would cost me 1019 USD(6500DKK) including tax. which i find pretty hefty

 

 

hoping to hear from you soon:D

[DVA]

Don't bother with the bridge in my opinion. I would just get a 1080 ti if you can. 44% below msrp sounds like a sweet deal too. 

 

These are just my opinions though, you should wait a few hours before finalizing your choice. 

[meh123]

7 minutes ago, dieegoperi said:

Better take a look at benchmarks, YouTube is your place. But most users will tell you SLI is trash. Just think whether buying a 1080ti is worth it or not, since it's not the same a TV and a monitor, and quality may go a bit down.

But imo just sell that 1070 and buy the 1080ti, since it's almost the same price and power consumption is lower

like i looked at gta 5 which had a good scaling per card+ better performance than 1080ti but no i do not believe they have the same price...

[meh123]

also the vids are pretty old so new software in geforece exp. might fluctuate the results

[Derrk]

not all games will be optimized for SLI though, most actually aren't optimized. I'd say you're better off getting a 1080ti

[Tristerin]

SLI and Crossfire are a joke for the price you pay - I have one last rig running 2 gpus (and wont do this again) FX-8350 and 2x Sapphire HD 7850 2gb cards and when I take the bridge off, I lose 2 things in games that support 2 GPU profiles - the Sticker overlay saying Crossfire is enabled in the upper right...and 2-10 FPS.

 

Oh yeah and the graphical glitches caused by Crossfire at least go away when I don't bridge the cards.

 

Get the 1080ti or just turn down settings a hair.

[Lathlaer]

22 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

SLI and Crossfire are a joke for the price you pay - I have one last rig running 2 gpus (and wont do this again) FX-8350 and 2x Sapphire HD 7850 2gb cards and when I take the bridge off, I lose 2 things in games that support 2 GPU profiles - the Sticker overlay saying Crossfire is enabled in the upper right...and 2-10 FPS.

 

Oh yeah and the graphical glitches caused by Crossfire at least go away when I don't bridge the cards.

 

Get the 1080ti or just turn down settings a hair.

Can't speak for Crossfire but clearly we are playing different games.

 

OP: the thing is, a low core count 16 PCIE lanes system even in 4K might reveal some problems of SLI that are not evident from FPS. More input lag, microstutters etc. - all are a possibility depending on the game. 

 

Actually a lot of bad rep SLI is getting is precisely because of people running it on suboptimal systems not really designed for that. 

 

Not to mention that 1070 is as low as it gets when it comes to pairing two GPU's - I really would recommend it for 1080+ because that's where you see the main advantage of SLI (aka getting results a single card user can't).

 

Can't believe I'm saying this because I myself am a huge SLI fan but I'd rather you get a single more powerful GPU (even if it were not a 1080ti but a 1080) than you trying out SLI with that setup and then return here in few months as one of those "SLI doesn't work" acolytes ;-)

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Lathlaer said:

Can't speak of Crossfire but clearly we are playing different games.

 

OP: the thing is, a low core count 16 PCIE lanes system even in 4K might reveal some problems of SLI that are not evident from FPS. More input lag, microstutters etc. - all are a possibility depending on the game. 

 

Actually a lot of bad rep SLI is getting is precisely because of that - people running it on suboptimal systems not really designed for that. 

 

Not to mention that 1070 is as low as it gets when it comes to pairing two GPU's - I really would recommend it for 1080+ because that's where you see the main advantage of SLI (aka getting results a single card user can't).

 

Can't believe I'm saying this because I myself am I huge SLI fan but I'd rather you get a single more powerful GPU (even if it were not a 1080ti but a 1080) than you trying out SLI with that setup and then return here in few months as one of those "SLI doesn't work" acolytes ;-)

I can only give my testimony on my experience with Crossfire, as I try to support team Red - and that is I will not ever be using it again because the gains are unrealistic vs the money spent.  And GPU manufacturers will always keep it that way lol.  As for SLI, well I read their boards/forums as well and it seems not many people find it worthwhile either from what I have read

[Lathlaer]

3 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

As for SLI, well I read their boards/forums as well and it seems not many people find it worthwhile either from what I have read

I build my rig over a year ago. From that time I have played:

 

1. ME: Andromeda - everything maxed 4213x1764, about 80-100 FPS

2. Final Fantasy XV - everything maxed 3440x1440, about 80-90 FPS

3. Witcher 3 - everything maxed 4213x1764 about 90-110 FPS

4. Tomb Raider (2013) - everything maxed 4213x1764 about 100-117 FPS (locked FPS)

5. Rise of the Tomb Raider - everything maxed 4213x1764 about 90-117 FPS (locked FPS)

6. Nier Automata - everything maxed, don't remember exact res but 5k something, 60 fps (game is FPS locked)

7. Shadow of the Tomb Raider - everything maxed 4213x1764 about 80-90 FPS

 

Only Automata and FFXV required custom fixes. I do realize that this is not a big sample but I just wanted to point out that for every person out there claiming that SLI doesn't work, there might be another one for whom it works 100% of the time.

[Tristerin]

16 minutes ago, Lathlaer said:

I build my rig over a year ago. From that time I have played:

 

1. ME: Andromeda - everything maxed 4213x1764, about 80-100 FPS

2. Final Fantasy XV - everything maxed 3440x1440, about 80-90 FPS

3. Witcher 3 - everything maxed 4213x1764 about 90-110 FPS

4. Tomb Raider (2013) - everything maxed 4213x1764 about 100-117 FPS (locked FPS)

5. Rise of the Tomb Raider - everything maxed 4213x1764 about 90-117 FPS (locked FPS)

6. Nier Automata - everything maxed, don't remember exact res but 5k something, 60 fps (game is FPS locked)

7. Shadow of the Tomb Raider - everything maxed 4213x1764 about 80-90 FPS

 

Only Automata and FFXV required custom fixes. I do realize that this is not a big sample but I just wanted to point out that for every person out there claiming that SLI doesn't work, there might be another one for whom it works 100% of the time.

 

Oh Im not saying it doesn't work.  Im just in the camp that the gains do NOT outweigh investing in a single GPU for the normal/higher end gamer.

 

For Crossfire the setup took me an evening of tweaking and finding the correct profiles.  The gains were extremely marginal even when the 7850's I use were good GPU's and I believe the gains will be extremely marginal when spending another grand into your PC - cost vs increase in performance it seems like a bad investment to me (Im fairly certain you could remove 1 of those GPU's in your rig and achieve the same longevity your PC is going to achieve, especially with an X processor like that)

 

I could be wrong, but you are a superuser when it comes to eeking out the performance on your rig, and you make up a very small sample of the gaming community (I don't have numbers, just testimony from my experience of talking with other gamers) - Im sure Steam has the numbers but Im at work atm.

 

EDIT - sorry for going on about this subject, in the end I blame the manufacturers and the drivers they produce for the lack of viable dual GPU usage.

[Lathlaer]

54 minutes ago, Tristerin said:

I could be wrong

You are not wrong but this is precisely why I would never recommend building something I have to anyone (at least not here...). Hell, forget removing the GPU - if I went for aircooling and swapped the case for something different and mainstream I could probably build another 1080ti mainstream rig. Not the point.

 

I happened to get a killer deal on my CPU because it was right before Skylake-X got released but I'd never recommend getting it for gaming to anyone. It's just a bit of luck got thrown my way so I took it. If I didn't have that, I'd probably be enjoying a cheap 6900k or even a 6850k. Hell, even something like 5930k would do nicely. Not to mention the mainstream options - 6700k, 7700k and 8700k are all cheaper than HEDT but are better primed to run SLI rig than a 4/4 i5 CPU ;-)

[Tristerin]

29 minutes ago, Lathlaer said:

You are not wrong but this is precisely why I would never recommend building something I have to anyone (at least not here...). Hell, forget removing the GPU - if I went for aircooling and swapped the case for something different and mainstream I could probably build another 1080ti mainstream rig. Not the point.

 

I happened to get a killer deal on my CPU because it was right before Skylake-X got released but I'd never recommend getting it for gaming to anyone. It's just a bit of luck got thrown my way so I took it. If I didn't have that, I'd probably be enjoying a cheap 6900k or even a 6850k. Hell, even something like 5930k would do nicely. Not to mention the mainstream options - 6700k, 7700k and 8700k are all cheaper than HEDT but are better primed to run SLI rig than a 4/4 i5 CPU ;-)

 

Today, I bought a brand new EVGA SC GAMING GTX 1070 for $129.99 shipped.  I TOTALLY understand getting lucky

 

Called Newegg to ensure I either get the item or an immediate refund if it gets fishy which they agreed to - the seller removed the listing then put it back up for $489 lol:

 

 

[Praesi]

I prefer a single gpu.

[reptileexperts]

20 hours ago, dieegoperi said:

Better take a look at benchmarks, YouTube is your place. But most users will tell you SLI is trash. Just think whether buying a 1080ti is worth it or not, since it's not the same a TV and a monitor, and quality may go a bit down.

But imo just sell that 1070 and buy the 1080ti, since it's almost the same price and power consumption is lower

Most SLI USERS will defend it. Most non SLI users will call it trash because they have not tried it recently, or did not devote the time to learn it. 

 

SLI Is a beast but with limitations. You may have to tweak your nvidia profiles to get some games to work, you may deal with higher temps rising quicker. Screen stuttering may be a real issue. Having said that, my 1070 SLI system beats out a 1080ti in most of my situations. There are some instances that it wont, i.e. poorly optimized. etc. In those cases a 1080ti would win. 

 

Having said this, I am waiting for my 2080 ti to arrive (estimate friday) to replace my 1070 strix SLI combo, and when prices become reasonable, add a second 2080 ti If needed later on.