Aliens

[dalekphalm]

2 hours ago, Derrk said:

what do you mean by FTL? is it an acronym for traveling at light speed? faster than light?

FTL is the accepted shorthand for "Faster than light" - specifically referring to propulsion systems that exceed the speed of light in a vacuum.

 

I think the most realistic chance for FTL tech is probably the Alcubierre drive - which is somewhat similar to Star Trek's Warp Speed.

 

That's assuming there aren't naturally occurring stable wormholes.

[wasab]

On 9/11/2018 at 3:33 PM, Raskolnikov said:

Why do we keep searching for things that will either kill or enslave us. 

Because according to star trek, they will bestow us with their technology and allow us to eradicate poverty, form an intergalactic Federal  Republic spanning thousands of planets and light years with both the capital and its military leadership housed on planet Earth. We humans will become the leading species in the galaxy in less than 100 years!!! And these aliens will accept our leadership no questions ask. It is totally realistic. 

[PhantomDragon]

Makes me want to rewatch the movie Contact (1997).  Shortcuts though space would be nice. 

[Drak3]

11 hours ago, wasab said:

intergalactic Federal  Republic

Which was really a Facist "Republic" that terrorized anyone that didn't bow down to them.

 

11 hours ago, dalekphalm said:

FTL is the accepted shorthand for "Faster than light" - specifically referring to propulsion systems that exceed the speed of light in a vacuum.

 

I think the most realistic chance for FTL tech is probably the Alcubierre drive - which is somewhat similar to Star Trek's Warp Speed.

 

That's assuming there aren't naturally occurring stable wormholes.

The problem with FTL is the excessive energy needed to maintain the speed of light. It's damn near impossible, under current understanding, to travel even half that speed with any form of tech.

 

Don't count on wormholes either, the result of folding that much space time would kill you a multitude of times over, even in a ship like what's depicted in Star Trek.

[dalekphalm]

1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

Which was really a Facist "Republic" that terrorized anyone that didn't bow down to them.

 

The problem with FTL is the excessive energy needed to maintain the speed of light. It's damn near impossible, under current understanding, to travel even half that speed with any form of tech.

You're talking about using relativistic technology - eg: simply accelerating a rocket drive to, say, 50% c. Using this model, it's actually impossible to accelerate to c, because you need infinite energy. You could get to .99 c if you had near limitless energy (eg: singularity reactors, anti-matter, zero point energy, etc), but even that's not practical.

 

No, I'm talking about space warping, which would be the Alcubierre drive.

 

There are models in which we could power a Alcubierre drive using realistic levels of anti-matter.

1 hour ago, Drak3 said:

Don't count on wormholes either, the result of folding that much space time would kill you a multitude of times over, even in a ship like what's depicted in Star Trek.

That's entirely speculation. We don't know what the effects (if any) would be, and whether any sort of shielding would be required (or possible).

 

And even if what you say is true, it would still allow us to use unmanned probes and other autonomous spacecraft to travel through to the other end.

[SupremeGOAT]

On 9/11/2018 at 2:33 PM, Raskolnikov said:

Why do we keep searching for things that will either kill or enslave us. 

what if its a solar system of lust fueled women planning to invade the earth and battle our women to the death for the males of our species because all their males were dehydrated from all reproductive activities they wee doing. Turns out the women of that solar system were toooo sooooft... oh god... and the males couldnt stop themselves from dehydrating through the reproductive activities taking place.... GOD PLEASE!!

 

would be a fucking nightmare if it was the other way around...

[wasab]

4 hours ago, SupremeGOAT said:

what if its a solar system of lust fueled women planning to invade the earth and battle our women to the death for the males of our species because all their males were dehydrated from all reproductive activities they wee doing. Turns out the women of that solar system were toooo sooooft... oh god... and the males couldnt stop themselves from dehydrating through the reproductive activities taking place.... GOD PLEASE!!

 

would be a fucking nightmare if it was the other way around...

?????

 

You won't be having a very good time either if these women are literally milking your over swollen and abused genital for your semen 24/7 round the clock.

[dalekphalm]

18 minutes ago, wasab said:

?????

 

You won't be having a very good time either if these women are literally milking your over swollen and abused genital for your semen 24/7 round the clock.

 

Spoiler

death by snu-snu

 

[dizmo]

Could be, but who knows. Certainly not us. Most of us aren't able to comprehend such things.

I believe 100% that there's alien life. I mean, even the whole Roswell thing and the technological advancement we saw after is an interesting thing to get into.

I just think most of mankind can't handle it. They'll slowly try and get us to accept it through media.

 

On 9/11/2018 at 1:33 PM, Raskolnikov said:

Why do we keep searching for things that will either kill or enslave us. 

They more than likely don't want anything to do with us. See the reply to fpo below. We're dirty beings. Plus, we'd try and kill or conquer whatever we came across, because we're a violent species. Really, if anything, alien life would likely want to confine us to our planet until we have become more civilized.

On 9/11/2018 at 1:48 PM, Teddy07 said:

Why should high tech aliens care about us? We don´t care about worms

Musk had that analogy on the JRE. Except with apes. We don't really care about apes.

On 9/11/2018 at 2:14 PM, fpo said:

Nah I think they’re ignoring us. We come off as clingy. Have you seen how many things we sent out into space? 

I don't think we come off as clingy. I think we come off as that white trash hill billy that fills his yard with all kinds of garbage, and shoots at anything that comes into it, or looks at him cock-eyed. After all, look what our atmosphere looks like:

 

Spoiler

 

And that was 3 years ago. It's only gotten worse since then.

 

On 9/11/2018 at 8:45 PM, dalekphalm said:

True, and I agree. But consider that the earth is really only like 4.5 billion years old. What happened on earth was essentially inevitable, given the environment, circumstances and factors. 

 

Had another solar system form say, 8 or 10 billion years ago, with similar factors, it’s certainly possible that other intelligent species evolved earlier than hominids did. 

 

In our galaxy, I would actually be surprised if we were the first species to evolve to this level. Maybe they went extinct by now, but I would find it surprising if we were the farthest along. 

100% agree with this. Mankind has been alive for but a blink of what the planet has. I wouldn't be surprised if there was once life on all of the planets in our solar system at one point or another.

On 9/12/2018 at 10:37 AM, dalekphalm said:

Agreed.

 

That means a massive 25% of planets, on average, are in the habitable zone.

I think the whole "habitable zone" is BS. That's based on what we think life needs to survive. Who's to say that there isn't a life form that evolved differently, and doesn't require oxygen to live? Or breathes something else? We put too much emphasis on thinking we're the only way life can be.

On 9/13/2018 at 12:58 AM, wasab said:

Because according to star trek, they will bestow us with their technology and allow us to eradicate poverty, form an intergalactic Federal  Republic spanning thousands of planets and light years with both the capital and its military leadership housed on planet Earth. We humans will become the leading species in the galaxy in less than 100 years!!! And these aliens will accept our leadership no questions ask. It is totally realistic. 

Mmmm...only if we can travel through space at a decent clip. Otherwise, if they're part of the Federation, they can't make contact

[Bananasplit_00]

its not aliens unless we cant find anything else that could explain it and the second source already called out a neutron star as a possible candidate so while not as fun perhaps id rather ask "is it a neutron star?"

[Speed Weed]

We are the aliens. 

[dalekphalm]

 

17 minutes ago, dizmo said:

100% agree with this. Mankind has been alive for but a blink of what the planet has. I wouldn't be surprised if there was once life on all of the planets in our solar system at one point or another.

Modern humans are maybe a few hundred thousand years old. Hominids only a couple of million. 

 

Even if a planet formed only 500 million years before earth, with a similar environment, could produce aliens far beyond what we understand.

 

500 million years is a blink, galacticly speaking, but it could be the difference between being in the Stone Age vs having conquered FTL and gravity waves. 

 

17 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I think the whole "habitable zone" is BS. That's based on what we think life needs to survive. Who's to say that there isn't a life form that evolved differently, and doesn't require oxygen to live? Or breathes something else? We put too much emphasis on thinking we're the only way life can be.

I agree that there must be life out there not carbon based, or that otherwise works on different rules compared to earth life. 

 

However, the habitable zone is about liquid water, which we know is crucial for all life we know of so far. 

 

That is not to say other life can’t exist, but rather just that the 25% habitable zone is the *worst case* scenario. 

 

[dalekphalm]

12 minutes ago, DaPhuc said:

We are the aliens. 

Any species is, under some circumstances. 

 

But until we discover other life, no, we are not aliens while here on earth. 

[Guest]

54 minutes ago, dizmo said:

I don't think we come off as clingy. I think we come off as that white trash hill billy that fills his yard with all kinds of garbage, and shoots at anything that comes into it, or looks at him cock-eyed. After all, look what our atmosphere looks like:

 

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Dirty and clingy! What a disaster... 

If I ever get a rocket ship, I'm knocking into as many satellites as I can. 
"Fuck your satellites tv!" 

 

Kinda wanna figure out how to shoot some down now... Like shooting down amazon drones but the stakes are higher. 

[Speed Weed]

57 minutes ago, dalekphalm said:

Any species is, under some circumstances. 

 

But until we discover other life, no, we are not aliens while here on earth. 

 

I don't see no aliens. All I see is some potato pictures captured by NASA potato cameras. We make up alien sh*t. 

[LinuxTek]

1 hour ago, DaPhuc said:

We are the aliens. 

According to the Book of Enoch. 

 

....and people having Rh Negative blood and not coming from Monkeys/cross breed.

 

 

 

[Speed Weed]

15 minutes ago, LinuxTek said:

According to the Book of Enoch. 

 

....and people having Rh Negative blood and not coming from Monkeys/cross breed.

 

 

 

According to the Book of Bacon

 

We killed pigs and turned them into delicious bacons

[dizmo]

48 minutes ago, DaPhuc said:

 

I don't see no aliens. All I see is some potato pictures captured by NASA potato cameras. We make up alien sh*t. 

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[Speed Weed]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

If it does exist than we all be dead for a long time. 

[dizmo]

7 minutes ago, DaPhuc said:

If it does exist than we all be dead for a long time. 

That's a pretty illogical comment. Why do you figure that?

[Drak3]

10 minutes ago, dizmo said:

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

Worded better as:

 

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[Speed Weed]

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

That's a pretty illogical comment. Why do you figure that?

They want to study us? Some of them might want to conquer the earth. 

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, Drak3 said:

Worded better as:

 

Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

[dizmo]

Just now, DaPhuc said:

They want to study us? Some of them might want to conquer the earth. 

Or they want nothing to do with us. Ants are smaller than you. Less advanced. Do you go out of your way to eradicate all of them?

[Speed Weed]

Just now, dizmo said:

Or they want nothing to do with us. Ants are smaller than you. Less advanced. Do you go out of your way to eradicate all of them?

I eradicate all bugs and insects on my way.