Help whit my first build

[ziga_smauc]

Hi. So I am going to be building my first pc and I need some help. I already did some research and put together a list of parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nWRnXP 

 

So my budget is around 1200€ and this build costs around 1180€ where I live. 

On this computer I will be doing mostly gaming and school stuff.

 

I would like to know if there are any potential problems whit this build, and any opinions or suggestions are always welcome.

 

Thanks too everyone.

 

Ziga

[Crunchy Dragon]

Drop to a CX550M instead of the 750W G3, and go for a newer motherboard.

 

Other than that, all seems well.

[Streetguru]

7 minutes ago, ziga_smauc said:

 

There's a german part picker link anyways.

 

Should buy better value parts in most places.

 

an an RX 570/580 is a better buy then the 1060 6GB for free-sync savings.

are you only using a single 1080p 60hz display?
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DhzpD2
Price breakdown by merchant: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DhzpD2/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600 3.4GHz 6-Core Processor  (€161.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€82.89 @ Alternate)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  (€130.33 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: SanDisk - SSD PLUS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€44.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€58.55 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  (€221.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Fractal Design - Focus G (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€43.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€55.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €799.73
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-08 08:05 CEST+0200

[FrostBittn]

I would go for a 2600 instead of a 2600X. It's not worth spending $60 more on a cpu that is binned slightly better

[Axeoasis]

9 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Drop to a CX550M instead of the 750W G3, and go for a newer motherboard.

 

Other than that, all seems well.

I agree with this, also the motherboard does show official support for the 2nd gen Ryzen CPU you selected although it could be possible you'll need a 1st gen Ryzen CPU to be able to update it. What i'd do instead is replace your motherboard with the x470 (Which can be found here). It's around the same price and wouldn't need any updating.

 

Other than that it all looks good and well! I have the EVGA brand of the 1060 SSC and it hasn't caused me any issues to date nor have i ran into anything it wouldn't run well

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

RX 570/580 is a better buy then the 1060 6GB for free-sync savings.

Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 580 4GB Dual Video Card  (€221.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

At least get the 8GB variant of the 580.

[Streetguru]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

At least get the 8GB variant of the 580.

Good deal more, not really needed just for 1080p gaming.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Streetguru said:

Good deal more, not really needed just for 1080p gaming.

Fair enough, but the extra 4GB will come in handy as games get more demanding and if the OP decides to step up the resolution at some point in the future.

[SHROUD]

12 minutes ago, ziga_smauc said:

Hi. So I am going to be building my first pc and I need some help. I already did some research and put together a list of parts: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nWRnXP 

 

So my budget is around 1200€ and this build costs around 1180€ where I live. 

On this computer I will be doing mostly gaming and school stuff.

 

I would like to know if there are any potential problems whit this build, and any opinions or suggestions are always welcome.

 

Thanks too everyone.

 

Ziga

Build something like this.....#black-red colour scheme.....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($224.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.39 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $880.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-08 02:10 EDT-0400

[Streetguru]

Just now, JustAnotherTechGuy99 said:

nothing less than a platinum power supply.

Totally not necessary in 99% of cases

[Crunchy Dragon]

2 minutes ago, JustAnotherTechGuy99 said:

Your build is quite nice but personally i would recommend nothing less than a platinum power supply.

Platinum isn't necessary in most cases, plus it's way overpriced. A 750W Platinum unit will run you a fair bit more than a 750W Bronze or Gold unit, both of which are perfectly good.

 

See our 80Plus Efficiency thread:

 

[ziga_smauc]

7 minutes ago, Axeoasis said:

I agree with this, also the motherboard does show official support for the 2nd gen Ryzen CPU you selected although it could be possible you'll need a 1st gen Ryzen CPU to be able to update it. What i'd do instead is replace your motherboard with the x470 (Which can be found here). It's around the same price and wouldn't need any updating.

 

Other than that it all looks good and well! I have the EVGA brand of the 1060 SSC and it hasn't caused me any issues to date nor have i ran into anything it wouldn't run well

Can I ask why do you recommend a newer motherboard?

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, ziga_smauc said:

Can I ask why do you recommend a newer motherboard?

won't have to worry about an updated bios

 

and basically all of the X470 boards are decent/good, while some X370 boards have the same VRMs as B350 boards.

 

Either way just get a Pro 4 or Tomahawk B450 for the best value boards.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, ziga_smauc said:

Can I ask why do you recommend a newer motherboard?

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it could be possible you'll need a 1st gen Ryzen CPU to be able to update it.

Some of the older motherboards may not ship with a compatible BIOS for newer Ryzen CPUs.

 

The chances of this happening are very low, given how long the new CPUs have been out, but getting a B450 or X470 motherboard eliminates the chance of that happening at all.

[Axeoasis]

Just now, ziga_smauc said:

Can I ask why do you recommend a newer motherboard?

The motherboard you originally chose (the x370) will most likely need an update using a 1st gen Ryzen CPU. Unless you have one, you'll have to buy one to be able to update the BIOS of the Motherboard and then be able to use your 2nd Gen Ryzen CPU.

 

I made the same mistake when i got my Asus z170-P, I didn't pay attention when i ordered it with a Core i5 7400, and ended up having to order a 6th gen Celeron Chip just to be able to use the Motherboard and update it (the board was native to 6th gen, had to be updated to 7th gen to use my Core i5)

 

It's overall just a headache you should try to avoid

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 minute ago, Axeoasis said:

Unless you have one, you'll have to buy one to be able to update the BIOS of the Motherboard and then be able to use your 2nd Gen Ryzen CPU.

Not entirely true, you can order one from AMD to update the BIOS with.

 

You just have to ship it back when you're done.

[Axeoasis]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

Not entirely true, you can order one from AMD to update the BIOS with.

 

You just have to ship it back when you're done.

Oh that's convenient, does Intel offer something like that for future reference?

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Axeoasis said:

Oh that's convenient, does Intel offer something like that for future reference?

Not to my knowledge, unfortunately.

[SHROUD]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

Not entirely true, you can order one from AMD to update the BIOS with.

 

You just have to ship it back when you're done.

 

5 minutes ago, ziga_smauc said:

Can I ask why do you recommend a newer motherboard?

 

11 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

Build something like this.....#black-red colour scheme.....

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor  ($224.90 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty B450 GAMING K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($134.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: ADATA - Ultimate SU650 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($39.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.39 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: MSI - Radeon RX 580 8GB ARMOR OC Video Card  ($229.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Phanteks - Eclipse P350X (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($59.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $880.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-09-08 02:10 EDT-0400

@Crunchy Dragon...I had ordered a 2200g on a b350 pro4 Mobo....but it needed a bios update....I contacted amd and asked fr the upgrade package....it's 8 months now...ND I haven't received the upgrade kit...

@ziga_smauc...look at the build that I have posted above...kinda looks balanced...I HV chosen the 2600x instead of 2600 simply because it comes with a better cooler...ND is a better chip fr just $30 more...

Also...I HV maintained a black ND red colour scheme

[ziga_smauc]

9 minutes ago, Axeoasis said:

The motherboard you originally chose (the x370) will most likely need an update using a 1st gen Ryzen CPU. Unless you have one, you'll have to buy one to be able to update the BIOS of the Motherboard and then be able to use your 2nd Gen Ryzen CPU.

 

I made the same mistake when i got my Asus z170-P, I didn't pay attention when i ordered it with a Core i5 7400, and ended up having to order a 6th gen Celeron Chip just to be able to use the Motherboard and update it (the board was native to 6th gen, had to be updated to 7th gen to use my Core i5)

 

It's overall just a headache you should try to avoid

Is this board ok?

Gigabyte B450 Aorus

pro

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, ziga_smauc said:

Is this board ok?

GIGABYTE B450 AORUS PRO

Gigabyte B450 Aorus

pro

Gigabyte makes decent quality boards, that one seems pretty solid.

[ziga_smauc]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

Gigabyte makes decent quality boards, that one seems pretty solid.

Ok, thanks

[SHROUD]

6 minutes ago, ziga_smauc said:

Ok, thanks

ASRock fatility b450 gaming k4

It's one of the best b450 mobos out there.  

[Streetguru]

14 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

 

Probably just contact them again? Or maybe they don't service your region?

 

 

2 minutes ago, SHROUD said:

ASRock fatility b450 gaming k4

It's one of the best b450 mobos out there.  

Pro4 is mostly the same but cheaper, VRM is the same anyways.

[SHROUD]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Probably just contact them again? Or maybe they don't service your region?

 

 

Pro4 is mostly the same but cheaper, VRM is the same anyways.

Currently fatality b450 is going cheaper than b450 pro4

Fatality costs $79.99

Pro4 costs $83.99