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17 minutes ago, AverageGamer2017 said:

if you read the post before yours you will know why I only chose to include the CPU, storage, ram,GPU, and etc

Then go with the best and thus most expensive option. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Just now, AverageGamer2017 said:

Actually the temp on any of the laptops are bad. People have seen up to 50c to 60c when play cpu and gpu heavy games.

Temps on most gaming laptops are "bad" when compare to desktops. 50 - 60C is what I get on my full sized desktop when gaming. Most laptops (depending on size and cooling capactiy obviously) are probably skewed higher into the 70s or 80s which isn't horrible as long as it doesn't transfer to the user all that much. Hardware is made to go up into the 90s.

I already have a desktop. So I need something powerful and portable.

I have picked out a few laptops, please tell me which one is should I get?

 

 

Hp Omen 15-CE198WM-Price $1,259

Specs

  • i7-8750H
  • 16gb DDR4 @ 2666mhz
  • GTX 1060 6gb (Yes it has a full desktop GPU in it)
  • 1TB HDD + 256GB NVME PCIe SSD
  • has a thunderbolt

Dell G5 G5587-7037RED-PUS-Price $1,099

Specs

  • i7-8750H
  • 8gb DDR4 @ 2666mhz
  • 1TB HDD + 128gb SSD
  • GTX 1050 TI 4gb

Hp Pavilion 15-cx0058wm-Price $829.99

Specs

  • i5-8300H
  • 8gb DDR4 @  2666mhz
  • GTX 1050
  • 1TB HDD
  • 16GB Intel Optane Memory

 

I know that the hp omen is the one I should buy. But I want to just ask you guys

 

 

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4 minutes ago, AverageGamer2017 said:

GTX 1060 6gb (Yes it has a full desktop GPU in it)

Nope it doesnt, just because it isnt Max-Q doesnt mean it isnt a mobile GPU.

 

Also, these 3 are too far apart to be compared... You will be choosing based on how much performance you want, not whether one laptop itself is any good (cooling, noise level, battery life etc).

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Nope it doesnt, just because it isnt Max-Q doesnt mean it isnt a mobile GPU.

 

Also, these 3 are too far apart to be compared... You will be choosing based on how much performance you want, not whether one laptop itself is any good (cooling, noise level, battery life etc).

It does have a full desktop GPU in it and the reason why I didn't put cooling, noise level, and battery life is like a 99.99% match.

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Kinda weird to compare three different laptops at three different price points. The $1,259 HP Omen is the one you should get if it's within your budget because it's obviously the best spec wise out of the three. That being said a lot of factors go into a laptop; cooling, weight, fan noise, the hardware, build quality, storage (size and SSD vs HDD) plus some more I'm probably forgetting. I'd figure out what you want it to do (gaming, productivity, just web browsing or all three etc.) then figure out how much you want to spend. After that it should narrow it right down and once you get a few similar options you can start getting picky like how does it look, RGB backlighting, brand recognition etc.

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1 minute ago, Gamessys said:

Kinda weird to compare three different laptops at three different price points. The $1,259 HP Omen is the one you should get if it's within your budget because it's obviously the best spec wise out of the three. That being said a lot of factors go into a laptop; cooling, weight, fan noise, the hardware, build quality, storage (size and SSD vs HDD) plus some more I'm probably forgetting. I'd figure out what you want it to do (gaming, productivity, just web browsing or all three etc.) then figure out how much you want to spend. After that it should narrow it right down and once you get a few similar options you can start getting picky like how does it look, RGB backlighting, brand recognition etc.

if you read the post before yours you will know why I only chose to include the CPU, storage, ram,GPU, and etc

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Where are you from? Budget? Usage? Preferred max weight and minimum battery life?

Desktop specs:

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AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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Just now, ZM Fong said:

Where are you from? Budget? Usage? Preferred max weight and minimum battery life?

I just going to choose out of the three because there was a MSI laptop but it was 1.4k and it had a GTX 1050 TI and 128gb SSD

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Just now, AverageGamer2017 said:

I just going to choose out of the three because there was a MSI laptop but it was 1.4k and it had a GTX 1050 TI and 128gb SSD

No other options with 1050TI?

 

HP Omen ce has OKish cooling which isn't good to handle the hot 8750H, however it may equipped with good sRGB IPS panel (depends on region). Dell G5 has good build quality and cooling but has entry level IPS and so so keyboard. HP Pavilion Gaming has the same problem with Omen ce, most probably it's equipped with entry level IPS

Desktop specs:

Spoiler

AMD Ryzen 5 5600 Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB Gigabyte B550M DS3H mATX

Asrock Challenger Pro OC Radeon RX 6700 XT Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (8Gx2) 3600MHz CL18 Kingston NV2 1TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD

Montech Century 850W Gold Tecware Nexus Air (Black) ATX Mid Tower

Laptop: Lenovo Ideapad 5 Pro 16ACH6

Phone: Xiaomi Redmi Note 10 Pro 8+128

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16 minutes ago, AverageGamer2017 said:

It does have a full desktop GPU in it 

whatever, if it makes you feel better.

 

Looking at the prices and components, though, the HP Omen is the best value. Do be prepared with rather high temps, so undervolting is much preferred. If you dont mind, try replace the thermal paste with something better

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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4 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

whatever, if it makes you feel better.

 

Looking at the prices and components, though, the HP Omen is the best value. Do be prepared with rather high temps, so undervolting is much preferred. If you dont mind, try replace the thermal paste with something better

Actually the temp on any of the laptops aren’t bad. People have seen up to 50c to 60c when play cpu and gpu heavy games.

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17 minutes ago, AverageGamer2017 said:

if you read the post before yours you will know why I only chose to include the CPU, storage, ram,GPU, and etc

Then go with the best and thus most expensive option. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Just now, AverageGamer2017 said:

Actually the temp on any of the laptops are bad. People have seen up to 50c to 60c when play cpu and gpu heavy games.

Temps on most gaming laptops are "bad" when compare to desktops. 50 - 60C is what I get on my full sized desktop when gaming. Most laptops (depending on size and cooling capactiy obviously) are probably skewed higher into the 70s or 80s which isn't horrible as long as it doesn't transfer to the user all that much. Hardware is made to go up into the 90s.

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4 minutes ago, AverageGamer2017 said:

Actually the temp on any of the laptops aren’t bad. People have seen up to 50c to 60c when play cpu and gpu heavy games.

then they havent played those games long enough. My research seems to point out that extended gaming time will push temps above 80C

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Gamessys said:

Then go with the best and thus most expensive option. Seems like a no brainer to me.

Temps on most gaming laptops are "bad" when compare to desktops. 50 - 60C is what I get on my full sized desktop when gaming. Most laptops (depending on size and cooling capactiy obviously) are probably skewed higher into the 70s or 80s which isn't horrible as long as it doesn't transfer to the user all that much. Hardware is made to go up into the 90s.

i edited it and changed it to say aren't because my desktop reaches that temps and my desktop specs are less than the Hp Omen

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

then they havent played those games long enough. My research seems to point out that extended gaming time will push temps above 80C

I can Confirm this, i have had a MSI GS63 with a GTX1060 and it went way over 60°c even when running something like cuphead, Idle was around 48°c

 

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

then they havent played those games long enough. My research seems to point out that extended gaming time will push temps above 80C

Just they have. Not all laptops have bad cooling also 50c to 60c is what a lot of devices get to when playing games.My desktop has only exhaust fans and I see temps lower than this.

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1 minute ago, FastRDust said:

I can Confirm this, i have had a MSI GS63 with a GTX1060 and it went way over 60°c even when running something like cuphead, Idle was around 48°c

 

60c is not that bad so is 70c.

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6 minutes ago, FastRDust said:

I can Confirm this, i have had a MSI GS63 with a GTX1060 and it went way over 60°c even when running something like cuphead, Idle was around 48°c

 

 

10 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

then they havent played those games long enough. My research seems to point out that extended gaming time will push temps above 80C

Watch and skip to 4:50

 

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7 minutes ago, AverageGamer2017 said:

Just they have. Not all laptops have bad cooling also 50c to 60c is what a lot of devices get to when playing games.My desktop has only exhaust fans and I see temps lower than this.

Yeah, but not the Omen. There are laptops much thicker than a steak and those do cool well, just none of those as thin as the Omen.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Yeah, but not the Omen. There are laptops thicker than a steak and those do cool well, just none of those as thin as the Omen.

watch this video and skip to 4:50 and listen

 

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Just now, Jurrunio said:

Yeah, but not the Omen. There are laptops thicker than a steak and those do cool well, just none of those as thin as the Omen.

Also those are internal temps that i mentioned, not external temps so using a camera to check the temp isn't always the actual temp of the card inside.

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Just now, AverageGamer2017 said:

watch this video and skip to 4:50 and listen

 

look at 4.58 of that video on what HWinfo says

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

look at 4.58 of that video on what HWinfo says

A 6 core cpu will always get hot

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1 minute ago, AverageGamer2017 said:

A 6 core cpu will always get hot

Then do something about it. 95C+ max is unacceptable for long term use, and will hurt performance through thermal throttling.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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I think we mixed up internal temps and external temps.

For the external temp to reach 60°C the GPU inside has to be at least 96°C as well as the CPU

 

you will not feel this heat as it is dissipated, the temps measured from the camera are not the real temps of the hardware itself.

 

I think we got that confused.

 

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Then do something about it. 95C+ max is unacceptable for long term use, and will hurt performance through thermal throttling.

Prob if you would have had open your ears and listen. He said that the CPU will thermal throttle.

 

You should probably open your ears and listen instead of just looking at the video

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