Can a 650W PSU Handle a 2070/1080?

[Marfe]

Good day!

 

Im planning to buy a 2070, im just waiting for the reviews of it. If it outperforms the 1080 I will buy a 2070 if it doesn't i will buy the 1080.

 

My question is can my PSU handle a 2070/1080? I have a Antec Neo ECO 650W 80+ Bronze. Its not the best PSU out there but its also not the worst. Its in tier 4 of the PSU Tier list.

 

Current Parts

CPU is Ryzen 1600 clocked at 3.8Ghz at 1.35V

GTX 1060 3GB

8GBx2 DDR4 at 3000mhz

1 7200 rpm HDD

2 SSD

X72 Liquid cooler (360mm push&pull)

7 120mm fans

1 140mm fan

NZXT Hue+

Antec Neo ECO 650W 80+ Bronze

 

[ShadySocks]

It should be fine unless you have a threadripper or super overclocked CPU.

[WoodenMarker]

Your psu is fine. 

[Marfe]

Just now, ShadySocks said:

It should be fine unless you have a threadripper or super overclocked CPU.

I just edited my post

 

This are my parts as of now

 

Current Parts

CPU is Ryzen 1600 clocked at 3.8Ghz at 1.35V

GTX 1060 3GB

8GBx2 DDR4 at 3000mhz

1 7200 rpm HDD

2 SSD

X72 Liquid cooler (360mm push&pull)

7 120mm fans

1 140mm fan

NZXT Hue+

Antec Neo ECO 650W 80+ Bronze

[Marfe]

Just now, WoodenMarker said:

Your psu is fine. 

I'm kinda doubting it because I have a sh*t ton of fans. Lol

 

Also I have my R5 1600 overclocked.

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, Marfe said:

I'm kinda doubting it because I have a sh*t ton of fans. Lol

 

Also I have my R5 1600 overclocked.

Fans are hardly a dent in power usage.

It should be alright.

[Marfe]

Just now, ShadySocks said:

super overclocked CPU.

Is R5 1600 at 3.8Ghz with 1.35V considered super overclocked? 

[Marfe]

2 minutes ago, ShadySocks said:

It should be fine unless you have a threadripper or super overclocked CPU.

 

Just now, WoodenMarker said:

Your psu is fine. 

 

Just now, Dan Castellaneta said:

Fans are hardly a dent in power usage.

It should be alright.

Btw, i've read some post on the PSU tier list that is pinned here and the OP of the post says that tier 4 PSUs are for more "basic" build. More on the GTX 50/60 series.

[ShadySocks]

2 minutes ago, Marfe said:

Btw, i've read some post on the PSU tier list that is pinned here and the OP of the post says that tier 4 PSUs are for more "basic" build. More on the GTX 50/60 series.

You sound like you want a new PSU. Just hold off until you get the 2070 then see if you still want it.

[Marfe]

Just now, ShadySocks said:

You sound like you want a new PSU. Just hold off until you get the 2070 then see if you still want it.

I don't want a new PSU. I'm just worried that my PC will have instabilities or worst break the new GPU that I will buy.

[ShadySocks]

4 minutes ago, Marfe said:

I don't want a new PSU. I'm just worried that my PC will have instabilities or worst break the new GPU that I will buy.

I mean that buying a PSU will buy you peace of mind, but your current PSU is sufficient.

 

Your maximum load should be under 450 watts

http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

[Marfe]

Just now, ShadySocks said:

I mean that buying a PSU will buy you peace of mind, but your current PSU is sufficient.

 

Your maximum load should be under 450 watts

http://www.coolermaster.com/power-supply-calculator/

I don't rely that much on PSU calculators because of GPU boost.

[ShadySocks]

4 minutes ago, Marfe said:

I don't rely that much on PSU calculators because of GPU boost.

Even if you put the CPU to 7GHz@1.5V and the GPU to 1910MHz core and 2250MHz memory it is still under 600W

[WoodenMarker]

2 minutes ago, Marfe said:

says that tier 4 PSUs are for more "basic" build

This is a suggestion and not a hard rule. The tier list attempts to organize psus by quality and an estimation of its reliability. 

A high quality 450w psu for example can be assumed to reliably supply 450w without issue whereas a low quality one might struggle with 300w. What's considered reliable enough changes as psus improve overall and with who you're asking.

Whether a system is low or high end is subjective whereas how much power a system draws is objective. Even when oc'ed, a 1600 + 1080 shouldn't pull much more than 300w which is no problem for your psu.

The logic behind getting a higher end psu for a higher end system is that you can probably afford a better psu if you have the money for high end components. 

[Stefan Payne]

1 hour ago, Marfe said:

I have a Antec Neo ECO 650W 80+ Bronze.

Condolences.

Pls replace it, if you have the money for a 1000€ GPU, you have the money for a decent quality PSU and don't need/want to kill everything because you have an older PSU and, depending on the version, group regulated as well.

 

 

This is a suggestion and not a hard rule. The tier list attempts to organize psus by quality and an estimation of its reliability. 

Naa, @jonnyGURU always says that you should use an LLC-Resonant mode converter based unit for higher end Pascal (and VEGA) GPUs, not Double Forward units. And since money doesn't seem to be an issue, I don't see a reason to risk the Hardware because of an older PSU.

And the Antec Neo Eco is available in many different versions and depending on wich version, really bad (Seasonic S12II-Bronze) or somewhat OKish, though not recommended for the transients of modern high end Graphics Cards.

[Guest]

13 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Condolences.

Pls replace it, if you have the money for a 1000€ GPU, you have the money for a decent quality PSU and don't need/want to kill everything because you have an older PSU and, depending on the version, group regulated as well.

 

 

Naa, @jonnyGURU always says that you should use an LLC-Resonant mode converter based unit for higher end Pascal (and VEGA) GPUs, not Double Forward units. And since money doesn't seem to be an issue, I don't see a reason to risk the Hardware because of an older PSU.

And the Antec Neo Eco is available in many different versions and depending on wich version, really bad (Seasonic S12II-Bronze) or somewhat OKish, though not recommended for the transients of modern high end Graphics Cards.

Double forwards work... but are noisy.  Which makes me wonder about their longevity under the dynamic loads with high-slew rates that newer cards present.  Not sure of the long term effects, but the transformers sound like they're screaming in pain.

 

[Marfe]

1 hour ago, Stefan Payne said:

Condolences.

Conversion rate about 10,000 yen = $100 (NOT ACCURATE JUST ESTIMATE)

 

Is this any good? This is the cheapest (13,480 yen and free shipping) I see here in Amazon JP that is in tier 2 and above.The RM850x is about 15,000 yen + shipping

[awesomegamer919]

24 minutes ago, Marfe said:

Conversion rate about 10,000 yen = $100 (NOT ACCURATE JUST ESTIMATE)

 

Is this any good? This is the cheapest (13,480 yen and free shipping) I see here in Amazon JP that is in tier 2 and above.The RM850x is about 15,000 yen + shipping

The real question is why you are looking at 850w PSUs, a 550w has the wattage, you just need something of decent quality.

[awesomegamer919]

2 hours ago, jonnyGURU said:

Double forwards work... but are noisy.  Which makes me wonder about their longevity under the dynamic loads with high-slew rates that newer cards present.  Not sure of the long term effects, but the transformers sound like they're screaming in pain.

 

Does this also apply to ACRF Topologies? From what I understand they also deal with transient loads poorly

 

[Guest]

11 hours ago, awesomegamer919 said:

Does this also apply to ACRF Topologies? From what I understand they also deal with transient loads poorly

 

Not enough experience with ACRF since pretty much only FSP uses them.

[awesomegamer919]

1 minute ago, jonnyGURU said:

Not enough experience with ACRF since pretty much only FSP uses them.

Looking at the EVGA GQ/G1+ and BeQuiet Pure Power 10 reviews on toms all have issues with the transient tests, but that could just be issues with the design and not the specific topology used...

[Guest]

4 hours ago, awesomegamer919 said:

Looking at the EVGA GQ/G1+ and BeQuiet Pure Power 10 reviews on toms all have issues with the transient tests, but that could just be issues with the design and not the specific topology used...

Could be the nature of active clamp.  I mean, active clamp LITERALLY clamps off the voltage peaks *hence the name), so I can see how a transient would cause it to freak out.