RTX 20 series benchmarks.

[ShinchanNL]

Alright all, I got I legit question. I hear everybody saying to wait until benchmarks results to buy a RTX 20 series gpu. The thing is. These new gpus have deep learning cores so won't that mean that every time you run a benchmark the score would get higher ? 

 

I might be stupid but in my opinion you can't trust those results any more because who can guaranty us that all the results they gonna show are from the first run.

 

Any thoughts on this?

[Jurrunio]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 'deep learning cores' means cores running algorithms Nvidia programmed into then through deep learning. In other words, 'deep learning' stuff done in the Nvidia company itself, not your graphics card.

[Electronics Wizardy]

3 minutes ago, ShinchanNL said:

These new gpus have deep learning cores so won't that mean that every time you run a benchmark the score would get higher ? 

Thats not how it works. Those cores are only used for certain tasks and won't just make it faster. Things like games won't use the tensor cores at all.

 

Those cores basically do matrix multiplication and addition. They won't magically make it learn.

[Skiiwee29]

Deep Learning means its meant for scientific research and calculations relating to that.. not for improved performance with gaming each run... 

[Electronics Wizardy]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but 'deep learning cores' means cores running algorithms Nvidia programmed into then through deep learning. In other words, 'deep learning' stuff done in the Nvidia company itself, not your graphics card.

These cores are desiged to do deep learing on the gpu for programs like tensor flow. This is normally used to power large datacenters. The deep leariing code is done by the customer.

[akialwayz]

6 minutes ago, ShinchanNL said:

Alright all, I got I legit question. I hear everybody saying to wait until benchmarks results to buy a RTX 20 series gpu. The thing is. These new gpus have deep learning cores so won't that mean that every time you run a benchmark the score would get higher ? 

 

I might be stupid but in my opinion you can't trust those results any more because who can guaranty us that all the results they gonna show are from the first run.

 

Any thoughts on this?

it can be only used by software with deeplearning and ai support but usually benchmarks dont.

[ShinchanNL]

Alright thanks for the clarification.

[GoldenLag]

Sadly, no. Those cores are only meant for certain application and wont accelerate your gameplay. The reasok we say "wait for benchmarks" is that the new cards havent gotten any level performance benchmarks against older titles without raytracing, something Nvidia just doesnt do. Not to mention a whole month untill launch(and pre-orders during that time) when the press knows practically nothing of the performance of the cards. 

 

The new cores in the cards is very nice, but in many ways its an early adopter card. Which is great for advancing the industry, but doesnt offer much to the consumer

[ShinchanNL]

Just now, GoldenLag said:

Sadly, no. Those cores are only meant for certain application and wont accelerate your gameplay. The reasok we say "wait for benchmarks" is that the new cards havent gotten any level performance benchmarks against older titles without raytracing, something Nvidia just doesnt do. Not to mention a whole month untill launch(and pre-orders during that time) when the press knows practically nothing of the performance of the cards. 

 

The new cores in the cards is very nice, but in many ways its an early adopter card. Which is great for advancing the industry, but doesnt offer much to the consumer

Yeah. Guess I'll sit this generation out on my 1080.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, ShinchanNL said:

Yeah. Guess I'll sit this generation out on my 1080.

The performance jump from the 1080 is not worth the pricetag. You are better of waiting untill next gen when raytracing will have better implemantation not to mention performance. (The demoes seem to have had a framerate of about 30-60 fps, its early performance metrics though not expected to improve much)

[Spotty]

I'm guessing you're thinking of DLSS (Deep learning Super Sampling)?

As far as I know, (and I've yet to read any really detailed info on DLSS yet, so I may be completely wrong) it's just a way to off-load super sampling/anti aliasing tasks from the cuda cores to the tensor cores. Take the load of AA tasks off of the cuda cores and it should free up a lot of processing power, and in turn the card can push higher FPS.  Similar to how you get better FPS if you lower or switch off Anti-Aliasing.

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What’s interesting about DLSS is that it uses Turing’s Tensor cores to enable a deep learning-powered AI technique to dramatically improve image quality and remove jagged edge artifacts in games, with a minimal performance hit. Traditional anti-aliasing, or AA, can lean heavily on GPU processing resources and memory bandwidth, and may consume large amounts of frame buffer memory as well. Anti-aliasing often requires a frame to be rendered and re-rendered multiple times in order to smooth out edges of objects in a scene and the end result can be a costly performance hit. NVIDIA notes that its new DLSS anti-aliasing technique, however, uses machine learning of scenes and images (called inferencing) to improve image quality without the large performance hit associated with some traditional AA methods.

https://hothardware.com/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-2080-performance-and-dlss

To answer your question, I'm sure that when the cards are released the reviewers will be testing and benchmarking performance with and without DLSS enabled. Also, DLSS has to be enabled by the game/benchmark that is running, so if the benchmark doesn't support it, then the card won't be able to take advantage of DLSS.