i7 2600 i7 2600 (Non k) Bottlenecks GTX 1060 6G.

[Josh Bains]

I've currently Got an i7 2600 with a MSI GTX 1060 6G oc, as well as 8GB DDR3 Ram and The CPU Bottlenecks like crazy..whether playing the Witcher 3, Assassins Creed Origins,Fallout 4 or even Far Cry 4 at the resolutions of 1080p, 720p or lower..with the identical poor performance.The game would occasionally freeze for a second and carry on like normal..60 FPS would drop down to 14 FPS in that moment it freezes..i wouldn't have a problem with it, if it was occasional but unfortunately its not..I had a GTX 750 before and i had no issues like these...Now my decision is to upgrade to an i5 8400 CPU. If any one could consider what else could be at fault other than my CPU i would be glad to hear it. Thanx!

[PopsicleHustler]

Well you're trying to run modern triple A games on a CPU thats over 7 years old, so nothing surprising here. Your old GTX750 didn't push the CPU to its limits, but now you have 1060 and it displaying data faster than CPU can provide, hence why you get stutters and drops.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Well you're trying to run modern triple A games on a CPU thats over 7 years old, so nothing surprising here. Your old GTX750 didn't push the CPU to its limits, but now you have 1060 and it displaying data faster than CPU can provide, hence why you get stutters and drops.

At least it's not as bad as when I ran my i5 2400 with a 980 Ti... 

[Sauron]

Considering I regularly play games at 4k and 1440p with your same cpu and an r9 fury, there's probably something else that is causing your problems. I never have freezes and random drops even in recent games like doom 2016. Maybe your card is defective or your hard drive is dieing.

[Jurrunio]

Is the CPU overheating? Aside from AC:O, games you listed shouldnt stutter like that.

[Zando_]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Is the CPU overheating? Aside from AC:O, games you listed shouldnt stutter like that.

True. And running at 720p would make the stutter worse, because then it shifts the stress off the GPU onto the CPU. 

[GoldenLag]

Something else than a major bottleneck is at play. You shure you have the correct drivers?

 

Use ddu in safe mode to uninstall the drivers and reinstall them

[Josh Bains]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Is the CPU overheating? Aside from AC:O, games you listed shouldnt stutter like that.

thats the weird thing my cpu stays at 60 to 70 degrees and turboboost is active not that that matters..

[Majestic]

I'm just going to leave this here:

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/894384-stutters-framedrops-lag-how-to-provide-detailed-information-with-your-bottleneck-question-as-well-as-a-few-solutions/

 

Yes you have to read a bit. But there's ton's of these threads so I'm not going to write it every single time. If you have the results or questions, ping me.

[Josh Bains]

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

Something else than a major bottleneck is at play. You shure you have the correct drivers?

 

Use ddu in safe mode to uninstall the drivers and reinstall them

i reinstalled everything the other day on an SSD.. i used the latest drivers from nvidea and intels website

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, Josh Bains said:

thats the weird thing my cpu stays at 60 to 70 degrees and turboboost is active not that that matters..

how about RAM? Is that hitting the limit? me and @Sauron both run 16gigs of it but you only have 8

[Josh Bains]

not sure ill have to check again..

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

how about RAM? Is that hitting the limit? me and @Sauron both run 16gigs of it but you only have 8

 

[Josh Bains]

11 minutes ago, Sauron said:

Considering I regularly play games at 4k and 1440p with your same cpu and an r9 fury, there's probably something else that is causing your problems. I never have freezes and random drops even in recent games like doom 2016. Maybe your card is defective or your hard drive is dieing.

True, but i think that maybe because both your gpu and cpu is getting stressed so it evens out...dont get me wrong im just speculating..

[Josh Bains]

27 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

how about RAM? Is that hitting the limit? me and @Sauron both run 16gigs of it but you only have 8

it runs at about 7100 mb  or a little bit higher during run time on most of the games

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Josh Bains said:

it runs at about 7100 mhz during run time

I'm talking about system RAM. 6GB VRAM should be more than enough for 1080p

[Josh Bains]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

I'm talking about system RAM. 6GB VRAM should be more than enough for 1080p

OK, well my graffix card only has 6gb of VRAM but my actual system memory is 8gb of ram, this runs at about 90% on task manager

[Josh Bains]

so in conclusion,I'm getting an i5 8400. thank you to everyone for your support!

[Sauron]

17 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

how about RAM? Is that hitting the limit? me and @Sauron both run 16gigs of it but you only have 8

It was fine back when I only had 8 too to be honest.

12 minutes ago, Josh Bains said:

True, but i think that maybe because both your gpu and cpu is getting stressed so it evens out...dont get me wrong im just speculating..

Shouldn't make a difference when you're around 60 fps, the load on the CPU is roughly the same. It's not like it does a fixed percentage of the work. Besides, I don't get any freezes or framerate drops at 1080p either. If I had a 120hz monitor it would make a difference compared to newer chips, but at 60hz it doesn't.

 

The point is, before spending money on a new cpu, motherboard and ram, make sure that's your issue.

[Josh Bains]

18 minutes ago, Sauron said:

It was fine back when I only had 8 too to be honest.

Shouldn't make a difference when you're around 60 fps, the load on the CPU is roughly the same. It's not like it does a fixed percentage of the work. Besides, I don't get any freezes or framerate drops at 1080p either. If I had a 120hz monitor it would make a difference compared to newer chips, but at 60hz it doesn't.

wow, alright thanks ill buy more ram and see how it goes.. luckily DDR3 is not that expensive here..if not then ill have to cough up for new hardware.

[xriqn]

34 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Well you're trying to run modern triple A games on a CPU thats over 7 years old, so nothing surprising here. Your old GTX750 didn't push the CPU to its limits, but now you have 1060 and it displaying data faster than CPU can provide, hence why you get stutters and drops.

Actually you'll find the bottleneck for that CPU paired with a GTX 1060 is on average around 7%. That's a tiny bottleneck, not even worth worrying about.

[Josh Bains]

2 minutes ago, xriqn said:

Actually you'll find the bottleneck for that CPU paired with a GTX 1060 is on average around 7%. That's a tiny bottleneck, not even worth worrying about.

Thank you for your reassurance!

[xriqn]

Just now, Josh Bains said:

Thank you for your reassurance!

You're welcome. I daresay a GTX 1070 would pair fine with that CPU without the bottleneck becoming too much of an issue.

[Jurrunio]

Just now, xriqn said:

You're welcome. I daresay a GTX 1070 would pair fine with that CPU without the bottleneck becoming too much of an issue.

if that's a K variant and overclocked heavily, that is. With a 4.5GHz overclock (not that impressive for a 2600k), mine limits a 1070 running at stock frequencues at times.

[xriqn]

1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

if that's a K variant and overclocked heavily, that is. With a 4.5GHz overclock (not that impressive for a 2600k), mine limits a 1070 running at stock frequencues at times.

The bottleneck on a non K variant paired with a 1070 is still only around 13% so the bottleneck still wouldn't be a massive issue. Push to 20% bottleneck and THEN I'd say its an issue.

[DanSlice]

42 minutes ago, PopsicleHustler said:

Well you're trying to run modern triple A games on a CPU thats over 7 years old, so nothing surprising here. Your old GTX750 didn't push the CPU to its limits, but now you have 1060 and it displaying data faster than CPU can provide, hence why you get stutters and drops.

I'm getting some freezing (i don't know if its a bottleneck) when playing games w my Ryzen 1600 and new gtx 1070 (previously 1050ti). I just wanted to ask possible reasons and how to check if it is a bottleneck?