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[THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG]

Hi,

 

I will be hosting some small business websites. I have 1 Gbps internet unlimited connection stable. I have UPS. my internet never fails my home energy never fails. 

The budget is around 700 USD/Eur. 

 

I have a hard time searching for Motherboards with RAID 0, 1 and 10.

 

2x 250 GB SSD RAID 1. 

2x 4 TB RAID 1. ( FUTURE NOT NEEDED FOR NOW ) This will host some Large files.

 

BUILD:

 

CPU: AMD RYZEN 7 1800X

Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 

PSU: EVGA 500 B1, 80+ Bronze 500W 

RAM: Kingston HyperX 8 GB.

Motherboard: That's the thing. I don't know. at least an ATX. If I buy I cheap board but I need to put a raid card?

SSD: 2x Kingston SSD A400 

 

 

I was thinking of this board.  Gigabyte - GA-AX370-Gaming ATX AM4 $84.80

 

 

Its says Support for RAID 0, 1, and 10. But is any good this integrated RAID controllers?

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

12 minutes ago, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

I have a hard time searching for Motherboards with RAID 0, 1 and 10.

 

Don't use motherboard raid it sucks, software raid or a hardware raid card is what you want.

 

What os are you running? Are you using vms?

 

Do you need new? Id get a used r720 or r710 for that price. Much faster, cheaper ram and much more capacity and more server features like impi, dual psus, hostswap parts.

 

get more than 8gb of ram, ram is nice to have lots of for things like vms.

 

[THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

Don't use motherboard raid it sucks, software raid or a hardware raid card is what you want.

 

What os are you running? Are you using vms?

 

Do you need new? Id get a used r720 or r710 for that price. Much faster, cheaper ram and much more capacity and more server features like impi, dual psus, hostswap parts.

 

get more than 8gb of ram, ram is nice to have lots of for things like vms.

 

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I think I cant have VMS. because only have one IP. 

it will be Linux server. 

I don't really know if I can run multiple Linux ( Debian 9 ) machines on the same IP. because of the ports. the ISP will not give me more IP\s

 

 

I don't really want an r720 I have a rented machine running and they will be sync.  and I want silence on my home.

Bigger websites are on rented servers. but I have a lot of small websites that i need to take care. 

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

I think I cant have VMS. because only have one IP. 

it will be Linux server. 

I don't really know if I can run multiple Linux ( Debian 9 ) machines on the same IP. because of the ports. the ISP will not give me more IP\s

 

 

I don't really want an r720 I have a rented machine running and they will be sync.  and I want silence on my home.

Bigger websites are on rented servers. but I have a lot of small websites that i need to take care. 

 

 

You can run vms with one IP, I do that right now. Having vms will make no difference here. You vms get all local ips, then you do the needed port forwarding.

 

What linux? Id probalby install a hypervisor like proxmox, then run linux guests like debian or centos in there.

 

If you want a quiet server look at used tower servers, there still much more band for the buck compared to the ryzen build and you can put lots more ram in(you want lots)

[THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG]

On 08/08/2018 at 5:09 AM, Electronics Wizardy said:

Don't use motherboard raid it sucks, software raid or a hardware raid card is what you want.

 

What os are you running? Are you using vms?

 

Do you need new? Id get a used r720 or r710 for that price. Much faster, cheaper ram and much more capacity and more server features like impi, dual psus, hostswap parts.

 

get more than 8gb of ram, ram is nice to have lots of for things like vms.

 

I did follow your recommendation and I did buy a  Dell PowerEdge R510 V2

 

it costs me around 350 Euros or £337‎ ( I did not pay TAX because I have an EU Business VAT )

 

 

 

CPU: 2x 2.40 GHz Hex-Core Xeon 6 Cores and 12 Threads

Memory: 24 GB DDR3 ECC Reg

RAID: PERC H200 RAID // I did buy this raid because it accepts all disks. PERC H700 RAID is blocked to only DELL Disks...

Hardrive: 12 x Empty 3.5 Caddy/Tray // I will put more disk on future.

2x 300 GB SAS 10K RPM // This will be RAID 1

Power Supply: Dual PSU

iDrac6 Express and Enterprise 1 GB vFlash.

 

 

 

This will be fine for now. I will put only medium websites on it.

I really don't need that to much CPU power for now... I maybe will cut some power to reduce power consumption 

I will reduce the fan speed on the bios. I don't really like the noise. 

I did purchase this today. so I hope it will get here in 2 weeks. 

 

I think it was a really good deal. because I will need that 12 Hard drive spaces for later. 

 

What do you think?

Was it a good deal?

 

 

 

 

 

[Electronics Wizardy]

14 minutes ago, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

PERC H700 RAID is blocked to only DELL Disks...

Shouldn't be, Any drives should work fine

 

14 minutes ago, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

ERC H200 RAID /

Just saying, its not a raid card, its a hba, you want software raid here.

 

15 minutes ago, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

2x 300 GB SAS 10K RPM // This will be RAID 1

Please don't use 10k drives, use ssds if you need speed, 7k2 drives if you want cheap storage. Those drives will be pretty old and slow. For that price Id just get a sinlge 500 or 250gb ssd.

 

Only thing i may suggest is more ram if you need it.

 

16 minutes ago, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

will reduce the fan speed on the bios. I don't really like the noise. 

Can't really change it in the bios, normally you need reistors for these systems.

 

17 minutes ago, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

I maybe will cut some power to reduce power consumption 

Not to much you can do to lower power usage, YOU can take out a cpu, but that lows the ram max. Just make sure power saving things like c states and speed step are on.

 

 

[Razor Blade]

@Electronics Wizardy @THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG

 

IIRC if you upgrade the H700 firmware it removes the drive limitation. Years ago DELL thought it would be a good idea to lock it down but since then have eased up on the limitations. It may still whine about the drives not being DELL branded but it should work with other drives after you update it.

[THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG]

8 minutes ago, Razor Blade said:

@Electronics Wizardy @THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG

 

IIRC if you upgrade the H700 firmware it removes the drive limitation. Years ago DELL thought it would be a good idea to lock it down but since then have eased up on the limitations. It may still whine about the drives not being DELL branded but it should work with other drives after you update it.

I did a search a days ago. I did find out that the H700 on last firmware have the all disk block. dell disks work fine. 

 

And I did find out that H200 can handle up to 4 TB Disks on the last firmware. ( confirmed by DELL ) so I can have 12x 4 TB storage. 

 

I was really scared about buying the H700 because of the DELL blocking others disks. dell disks are expensive and stupid on my eyes. ( I did read the manual PDF )

 

 

[THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG]

22 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Shouldn't be, Any drives should work fine

 

Just saying, its not a raid card, its a hba, you want software raid here.

 

Please don't use 10k drives, use ssds if you need speed, 7k2 drives if you want cheap storage. Those drives will be pretty old and slow. For that price Id just get a sinlge 500 or 250gb ssd.

 

Only thing i may suggest is more ram if you need it.

 

Can't really change it in the bios, normally you need reistors for these systems.

 

Not to much you can do to lower power usage, YOU can take out a cpu, but that lows the ram max. Just make sure power saving things like c states and speed step are on.

 

 

About the 10K disks, it was not my idea... I have a 2x SAMSUNG 250 GB SSD ready for that server. 

Yes, I will put more RAM on the future. 

Oh, I can really have only ONE CPU? that's nice... 

 

But what do you mean cutting the RAM? cant I just put the RAM on the first CPU side?

[Razor Blade]

Just now, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

I did a search a days ago. I did find out that the H700 on last firmware have the all disk block. dell disks work fine. 

 

And I did find out that H200 can handle up to 4 TB Disks on the last firmware. ( confirmed by DELL ) so I can have 12x 4 TB storage. 

 

I was really scared about buying the H700 because of the DELL blocking others disks. dell disks are expensive and stupid on my eyes. ( I did read the manual PDF )

 

 

Can't argue there.. Dell disks are overpriced IMO. I actually read up more on it and turns out it isn't as simple as updating the firmware. It is finding the firmware that works with your disks. That sounds like an incredible pain in the butt.

[Razor Blade]

11 minutes ago, THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG said:

About the 10K disks, it was not my idea... I have a 2x SAMSUNG 250 GB SSD ready for that server. 

Yes, I will put more RAM on the future. 

Oh, I can really have only ONE CPU? that's nice... 

 

But what do you mean cutting the RAM? cant I just put the RAM on the first CPU side?

You can run a single CPU in CPU slot 1. What he meant by cutting the RAM was CPU 2's RAM slots will be inactive without a CPU in the slot.

[THEPRO | xTreme-CM.ORG]

6 minutes ago, Razor Blade said:

You can run a single CPU in CPU slot 1. What he meant by cutting the RAM was CPU 2's RAM slots will be inactive without a CPU in the slot.

Oh. okay. So will be limited to 16 GB. because my rams are 6x 4 GB. only have 4 slots per CPU. it leaves me in 16 GB. not bad.