R9 290X Does Not Utilize A Fully Unlocked Hawaii GPU.

[LifesCompanion]

this is exactly what nvidia did, didnt unlock the 780 gpu, and when they did , they called it the 780TI

problem is, amd cant release its full unlocked hawaii GPU on reference cooler, i wonder, if the 290 has more room to grow or not

I think in LTT's video with the water cooled 780 vs 290, Slick found that the reference power phase design and power supply format (6+8 I believe) couldn't deliver enough power to the GPU so I do think that the 290 has a fair bit to grow 

[Mooshi]

All of you complainers about the heat output of the R9 290/X clearly never had experience with a reference single slot ATI HD 4850. That card idled as much as my current one does max load. That was a POS card that deserves being mocked for running too hot. Compared to a single slot HD4850, the Hawaii GPU is Mt Everest.

[wpirobotbuilder]

All of you complainers about the heat output of the R9 290/X clearly never had experience with a reference single slot ATI HD 4850. That card idled as much as my current one does max load. That was a POS card that deserves being mocked for running too hot. Compared to a single slot HD4850, the Hawaii GPU is Mt Everest.

That's because you bought a single slot card dude. Small heatsinks == low heat dissipation == high temperatures.

[carolkarine]

You got a source for that? I did a quick google but couldn't find anything of note to say Maxwell was delayed or that 800 would be a rebrand. More curious then anything.

It's speculation on my part, mostly. But it's based on TSMC's 20nm fabs not being ready till Q3 (so no cards till Q4) 2014, and Nvidia saying the 800 series will be in Q2, if I remember right. this means that unless maxwell is a 28nm part, it won't be in the 800 series.

[TheRuke]

@xrex64 please rethink... EVERYTHING YOU KNOW.

 

This is amazing. Hopefully they can implement a better cooler to feed the beast!

[xrex64]

What if AMD was the first to make a water cooled reference card...

[MetroP]

So is it possible that AMD is working on a 290XT or something ?

[TERAFLOP]

Yep and Nvidia got a lot of hate for it. I'm surprised I haven't seen any of it here yet.

 

But actually it was a smart move on AMDs part. The cooler is one reason, but the other is that it leaves them at least one card that can come out when Maxwell does. I don't think it will be able to compete with Maxwell but it'll buy AMD a small amount of time.

We know almost nothing about Maxwell except that it supports virtual shared memory.

I can tell you for sure that it's not coming out anytime soon otherwise Nvidia wouldn't have bothered with the 780 Ti.

If it's 28nm  that means it will bring no performance improvements what so ever over Kepler since GK110 is physically the largest chip TSMC can produce on 28nm.

If it's 20nm that means it won't be coming for at least another 6 to 9 months.

[TechFan@ic]

So is it possible that AMD is working on a 290XT or something ?

I hope not, we already have enough $500+ overpriced video cards from both camps.

What we need is 20nm silicone !

[kingduqc]

*sigh* Guys guys, please guys stop. This "News" is just a repost of this guy. He only took a look at mesurement of tahiti and hawaii. There is nothing to it more then that and I'm not sure how he could of toon the audio chip into consideration.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?288145-Hawaii-3072SP

[Humbug]

I hope not, we already have enough $500+ overpriced video cards from both camps.

What we need is 20nm silicone !

 Exactly, in 2011 AMD launched the 7970 which was faster than previous generation products while still generating less heat and consuming less power. Now we seem to have pushed 28nm to it's limits. Unforutnately it looks like it will be a while before 20nm is ready.

 

For now; with the arrival of 3rd party custom 290s and 290-X cards, things would have been pretty great if not for those damn miners buying all our cards. :angry:

[eshbop]

 For now; with the arrival of 3rd party custom 290s and 290-X cards, things would have been pretty great if not for those damn miners buying all our cards. :angry:

It won't be long before they have to sell them all. Then cheap, but 100% stressed cards, for everyone!

 

 

 

This isn't surprising at all. They need to do this to get the yields required. This was even more of a factor with GK110, which is 25% larger, and is (part of the reason) why Nvidia took so long to release them as a GTX product.

[maazster]

R9 290X Ti? lol

Lol what would their dual GPU card be called, R9 295X2 Z?