Stunning Color of IPS or Deep Blacks of VA?

[drkknghtavngr]

Which would you pick for gaming/media?

[Majestic]

Have you ever seen a Samsung Quantum LED VA panel? Suddenly the colors of IPS aren't so stunning.

[PopsicleHustler]

IPS because of faster response time.

[J.b091]

I would try Samsung's qled monitor. As they colors are amazing with HDR support, plus freesync... Check this review out

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/samsung-chg70

 

more info about it on their official website.

[_CrisisRogue]

7 hours ago, J.b091 said:

I would try Samsung's qled monitor. As they colors are amazing with HDR support, plus freesync... Check this review out

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/samsung-chg70

 

more info about it on their official website.

im mad cuz it's not available near me and I cant order cuz i need it like now or tomorrow kill me

[drkknghtavngr]

7 hours ago, J.b091 said:

I would try Samsung's qled monitor. As they colors are amazing with HDR support, plus freesync... Check this review out

https://www.techradar.com/reviews/samsung-chg70

 

more info about it on their official website.

QLED + VA is basically OLED right?

[Glenwing]

1 hour ago, drkknghtavngr said:

QLED + VA is basically OLED right?

No, it's just an LCD with a wide-gamut backlight. It still doesn't match the contrast of OLED, and doesn't solve the other inherent flaws of LCD technology such as slow response time.

[drkknghtavngr]

2 hours ago, Glenwing said:

No, it's just an LCD with a wide-gamut backlight. It still doesn't match the contrast of OLED, and doesn't solve the other inherent flaws of LCD technology such as slow response time.

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[AngryBeaver]

12 minutes ago, drkknghtavngr said:

Sheeeiiiiii

But also doesn't burn in as easily as OLED.

[J.b091]

13 hours ago, Glenwing said:

No, it's just an LCD with a wide-gamut backlight. It still doesn't match the contrast of OLED, and doesn't solve the other inherent flaws of LCD technology such as slow response time.

That particular monitor has Response time: 1ms & plus doesn't have burn-in problem unlike oled. I think from current panels it's best choice in my opinion.

[Glenwing]

4 minutes ago, J.b091 said:

That particular monitor has Response time: 1ms & plus doesn't have burn-in problem unlike oled. I think from current panels it's best choice in my opinion.

VA panels have response times that reach into the 30+ ms range, the "1 ms" is a fake number, they put it because they have backlight strobing which can reduce perceived motion blur, and they say that gives it an "effective" response time of 1 ms.

 

Here are measurements of the actual panel response time:

 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_c32hg70.htm#response

[J.b091]

13 minutes ago, Glenwing said:

VA panels have response times that reach into the 30+ ms range, the "1 ms" is a fake number, they put it because they have backlight strobing which can reduce perceived motion blur, and they say that gives it an "effective" response time of 1 ms.

 

Here are measurements of the actual panel response time:

 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_c32hg70.htm#response

Didn't know that. Thx for info, though I still think it will be best choice, because currently I have standard IPS monitor with 60refresh rate and with response Time: 14ms & I play games normally without any problems. So I don't think it would be big issue even if it's not true 1ms, however gives you much better colors and without burn-in issue.

[SolarNova]

16 hours ago, AngryBeaver said:

But also doesn't burn in as easily as OLED.

OLED doesnt burn 'easily' period.

Takes a years worth of playing the same game (like COD WW2) 4 hours a day every day, and displaying nothing else, for burn in to even faintly start to show.

 

On 02/08/2018 at 8:01 AM, drkknghtavngr said:

Which would you pick for gaming/media?

For LCD, the lesser of the 3 evils is VA. Its the mid ground with the benefit of having darker greys (i say grey beocuse LCD cant produce black unless it has a very high density FALD array)

That said, check reviews that test pixel response for any VA your thinkg of getting. Check the amoutn of ghosting reported as that is one of ht drawback of VA.

 

All in all, no matter your choice andn o matetrh ow much you spend on a LCD, your going to have to suffer from some display defects. Be it backlight bleed, IPS glow, poor viewing angles, poor color reporduction, poor contrast, poor pixel respose etc , all LCD's have a collection of these depending on the panel type. Its what makes LCD such a terrible display technology.

20 hours ago, drkknghtavngr said:

QLED + VA is basically OLED right?

QLED and OLED are 2 totaly different display technology. OLED is self emisive, meaning it can produce true blacks as each pixel produces its own light without the need for a backlight like LCD's use. OELD also have far superior pixel response times and viewing angles. Also..... ill stop myself here. basicaly OLED is superior in every way to LCD with the one exception being it has the possibility to burn in akin to Plasma and CRT (both of which are also better than LCD). So long as you treat an OLED right however, you wont suffer form burn in. See rtings burn in test to see how much torture you would have to inflict to get burn-in.

 

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test

 

QLED is a marketing term (it is not true quantom Dot technology) for LCD's with a wider color gamut, and higher peak brightness, it allows for higher peak brightness which in turn increases the contrast ratio making the darker regions on the screen look darker. BUT it still uses a backlight, so cant produce black. The price for QLED screens is roughly around the same as OLED, so any1 who knows better should always go for an OLED.

[AngryBeaver]

46 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

OLED doesnt burn 'easily' period.

Takes a years worth of playing the same game (like COD WW2) 4 hours a day every day, and displaying nothing else, for burn in to even faintly start to show.

https://www.zdnet.com/article/lg-embarrasses-with-oled-burn-in-at-tradeshow/

 

That was after only 50-60 hrs of use on otherwise new tv's. There are plenty of articles that warn to the increase in burn in risk on Oleds. They are much more prone to burn in than a LCD that is a FACT. A lot of phones are using Oleds and they also suffer from burn in. So while technology (mostly tv software) has gotten better at reducing the chance of it happening... it still does and is still a problem.

[SolarNova]

4 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/lg-embarrasses-with-oled-burn-in-at-tradeshow/

 

That was after only 50-60 hrs of use on otherwise new tv's. There are plenty of articles that warn to the increase in burn in risk on Oleds. They are much more prove to burn in than a LCD that is a FACT. A lot of phones are using Oleds and they also suffer from burn in. So while technology (mostly tv software) has gotten better at reducing the chance of it happening... it still does and is still a problem.

Do you not see the issue with the circumstances in the case you linked ?

 

Have you seen this :

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test

 

Anyway i stick by what i said. Good day

[J.b091]

9 minutes ago, AngryBeaver said:

https://www.zdnet.com/article/lg-embarrasses-with-oled-burn-in-at-tradeshow/

 

That was after only 50-60 hrs of use on otherwise new tv's. There are plenty of articles that warn to the increase in burn in risk on Oleds. They are much more prone to burn in than a LCD that is a FACT. A lot of phones are using Oleds and they also suffer from burn in. So while technology (mostly tv software) has gotten better at reducing the chance of it happening... it still does and is still a problem.

Agree. My friend has Samsung phone with super amoled screen and got nice burn in on taskbar area & considering you're paying a lot for oled TV and one day u get this problem... I wouldn't risk to be honest.

[AngryBeaver]

4 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

Do you not see the issue with the circumstances in the case you linked ?

 

Have you seen this :

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/real-life-oled-burn-in-test

 

Anyway i stick by what i said. Good day

Going off your own link. Week 6 has burn-in on the Cyan color for live CNN... this spreads to most colors by week 8. So I hope you don't watch a lot of news sources if you are looking to go Oled.

[Majestic]

6 hours ago, Glenwing said:

VA panels have response times that reach into the 30+ ms range, the "1 ms" is a fake number, they put it because they have backlight strobing which can reduce perceived motion blur, and they say that gives it an "effective" response time of 1 ms.

 

Here are measurements of the actual panel response time:

 

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/samsung_c32hg70.htm#response

30+ms is probably MVA. 

[Glenwing]

2 hours ago, Majestic said:

30+ms is probably MVA. 

I linked the review in my post. It's an SVA panel from the Samsung CHG70, which is the monitor that was being discussed.