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What exactly do you mean?

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So now hyperthreading is i9 exclusive...? wtf Intel

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Just now, Quadriplegic said:

What exactly do you mean?

It used to be that the i3 was 2 core hyperthreaded, i5 was 4 core no hyperthreading, and i7 was 4+ core hyperthreading. Then they added i9 to differentiate the extra high core count and high clock speeds. Now that's completely skewed. The i7 doesn't get hyperthreading according to the article. The i5 has 6 core and basically the same clock speed. This is a complete change that I believe will cause some pretty big confusion among non-enthusiasts. 

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1 minute ago, azblurbit said:

It used to be that the i3 was 2 core hyperthreaded, i5 was 4 core no hyperthreading, and i7 was 4+ core hyperthreading. Then they added i9 to differentiate the extra high core count and high clock speeds. Now that's completely skewed. The i7 doesn't get hyperthreading according to the article. The i5 has 6 core and basically the same clock speed. This is a complete change that I believe will cause some pretty big confusion among non-enthusiasts. 

That could be very possible, if this was true. However, this is wccftech we are talking about.

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Lets say that this is true.

What is the point of the i7 9700k then?

I7 8700k will outperform it most of the time for cheaper because it has HT. I know that HT doesent scale as well as an actual cores but come on... six extra threads with HT vs two extra cores? I am quite certain that HT will win in this case.

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6 minutes ago, WereCat said:

Lets say that this is true.

What is the point of the i7 9700k then?

I7 8700k will outperform it most of the time for cheaper because it has HT. I know that HT doesent scale as well as an actual cores but come on... six extra threads with HT vs two extra cores? I am quite certain that HT will win in this case.

The 9900k is the 8700k "replacement" at the top of the consumer line.

They are basically just renaming the top consumer CPU to be i9 so that the i7 sits between the i5 and i9.

It's nice that they're bringing 8c/16t to the consumer platform finally :)

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8 core, 16 threads monster that can reach 5 GHz on 1/2 cores at 95W TDP?

I know that companies calculate TDP as they see fit, but WCCF pls.

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2 hours ago, WereCat said:

Lets say that this is true.

What is the point of the i7 9700k then?

I7 8700k will outperform it most of the time for cheaper because it has HT. I know that HT doesent scale as well as an actual cores but come on... six extra threads with HT vs two extra cores? I am quite certain that HT will win in this case.

Generally HT is around a 30% increase in MC performance in which case performance would be quite similar between the 8700k and 9700k and would probably come down to specific workloads.

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I'm definitely drinking the kool-aid. But I hope the i7-9700k is wrong.  We all know cores are better than threads, but until i see some tests I don't know if it is more of a side grade than upgrade.... but we'll see.

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That website is about as trustworthy as Donald Trump. Wait and see. It wouldn't make any sense for the Core i7 to not have HyperThreading Technology.

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2 hours ago, f1nalpr1m3 said:

That website is about as trustworthy as Donald Trump. Wait and see. It wouldn't make any sense for the Core i7 to not have HyperThreading Technology.

TechSpot: Intel leaks show that next i7 may drop hyperthreading.

 

Other sites are now reporting on it. Not to say it's 100% but it's beginning to gain traction. We can't know until the official announcement though. 

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On 24/7/2018 at 6:45 PM, azblurbit said:

TechSpot: Intel leaks show that next i7 may drop hyperthreading.

 

Other sites are now reporting on it. Not to say it's 100% but it's beginning to gain traction. We can't know until the official announcement though. 

You're right, I am wrong. I just find it a strange decision. My i7-8700K will outright beat the 9700K in certain benchmarks then.

 

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-9700K-appears-in-first-benchmarks-Hyperthreading-to-be-a-Core-i9-exclusive-feature-in-future-Intel-CPUs.318384.0.html

 

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