need constructive criticism

[Shyam Ganapathy]

1 minute ago, tzxazrael said:

if you want to get into video, i would definitely consider @Streetguru's advice about bumping it up to the R5 2600 (maybe even the X). you'll definitely want the extra cores and speed from it, plus it'll last you longer. you'll also probably want a lot more HDD, and a lot more video card (1080p is starting to fade out of fashion for video).

 

(ps, @Streetguru the B450's are starting to come out -now-. newegg already has a couple from Asrock and Gigabyte.)

 

 

if you just want a system for bashing around in games at 1080p, what you've got will do... and it'll probably handle video recording/streaming not bad, but you might notice some performance bumps. 

 

considering your budget, and lack of room to expand it... you might want to wait until at least end of august, and check out the "back to school" specials at your local big box store.   sure there's a bit of bloatware to uninstall... but with the sales, the buying power of those big box stores, and a little care and patience, you'll probably find a system in your budget range that will completely bulldoze over the specs you've laid out. just make sure it actually -has- a discrete video card.

 

i know there's a lot of hate on the big box budget builds, but once you dig out the bloatware, hardware is hardware. and at the low end of the budget spectrum, the big box stores can leverage their buying power to pack more hardware in than we can buy piece-by-piece.

For the video, my light editing is VERY light like ive been doing it on a 4th gen core i7 in a laptop running at like 2.3 gigahertz. Yuck. The B450 looks very promising and I will probably change it once a couple more boards come out. For the big box store approach, yeah I could probably do that, but not really sure on the approach since the hardware is normally unuprgradeable so in the future, I can't upgrade.

[Shyam Ganapathy]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

The PSU calc isn't very accurate your system is going to draw like 200-300W under a gaming load at max, probably just stick to the decent 600W in any event.

Huh. Never knew that. Thanks for the insight, so i might change the PSU but not as low as a 450w. Maybe a 500 or 550 for atleast a little bit of headroom.

[Streetguru]

Just now, Shyam Ganapathy said:

Huh. Never knew that. Thanks for the insight, so i might change the PSU but not as low as a 450w. Maybe a 500 or 550 for atleast a little bit of headroom.

Just buy that 600W unit it'll be fine, or spend more money and get an even more reliable PSU, like a 650W Focus Gold.

 

You can never have enough wattage from a decent quality unit.

The better PSU may be worth it since you'll probably be overclocking the 980ti to like 1400mhz or above.

[Shyam Ganapathy]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

Just buy that 600W unit it'll be fine, or spend more money and get an even more reliable PSU, like a 650W Focus Gold.

 

You can never have enough wattage from a decent quality unit.

The better PSU may be worth it since you'll probably be overclocking the 980ti to like 1400mhz or above.

Alright, ill take your advice, but for overclocking the 980ti, ive heard totally different things about overclocking it. Some people say its a good overclocker but some people say that the cards run at like 85 degrees at stock speeds. 

[tzxazrael]

3 minutes ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

but not really sure on the approach since the hardware is normally unuprgradeable so in the future, I can't upgrade.

i mean, these days, it's the same hardware as anything else. the cpu comes in a socket. ram is ram. gpu is gpu. you just pop the old out, and replace. 

 

that said, if at any point you want to do a serious core upgrade (move from intel to amd or vice versa, or change sockets like am4 to tr4) you'll need to pull and toss the old motherboard anyway.

 

are you suuuuure you need that car, instead of putting the money towards a kickass gaming rig? lol

[Shyam Ganapathy]

1 minute ago, tzxazrael said:

i mean, these days, it's the same hardware as anything else. the cpu comes in a socket. ram is ram. gpu is gpu. you just pop the old out, and replace. 

 

that said, if at any point you want to do a serious core upgrade (move from intel to amd or vice versa, or change sockets like am4 to tr4) you'll need to pull and toss the old motherboard anyway.

 

are you suuuuure you need that car, instead of putting the money towards a kickass gaming rig? lol

yeah that is true, about the hardware, but im concerned about the weird form factors that people are using these days. This is also my first build so I kinda want to experience it. 

For the car lol  but seriously public transport SUCKS.

[Streetguru]

4 minutes ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

Alright, ill take your advice, but for overclocking the 980ti, ive heard totally different things about overclocking it. Some people say its a good overclocker but some people say that the cards run at like 85 degrees at stock speeds. 

If your GPU has a decent cooler it'll be fine, an OC'd 980ti gets pretty close to a GTX 1080.

[tzxazrael]

i mean, i totally get it about wanting to actually build it yourself. BUT... piece-by-piece only makes a better machine at the high end. in mid-range its about equal to pre-built, and at low budget, you're definitely losing out.

 

as for weird form factors, yea i get that. a lot of the pre-built cases are pretty small, so there's a lot of working around corners. but the GPU section is pretty open, and if you're budget is gone anyway, you won't really need to get into those corners any time soon.

[Shyam Ganapathy]

1 minute ago, Streetguru said:

If your GPU has a decent cooler it'll be fine, an OC'd 980ti gets pretty close to a GTX 1080.

Seems good! How do I know if my cooler is good tho?

[Shyam Ganapathy]

Just now, tzxazrael said:

i mean, i totally get it about wanting to actually build it yourself. BUT... piece-by-piece only makes a better machine at the high end. in mid-range its about equal to pre-built, and at low budget, you're definitely losing out.

 

as for weird form factors, yea i get that. a lot of the pre-built cases are pretty small, so there's a lot of working around corners. but the GPU section is pretty open, and if you're budget is gone anyway, you won't really need to get into those corners any time soon.

That's true. Could probably give this pc to someone else or even sell it if I bought a prebuilt. Just not sure if ill find 980ti like performance in this price range with prebuilts even with sales.

[LienusLateTips]

14 minutes ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

Huh. Never knew that. Thanks for the insight, so i might change the PSU but not as low as a 450w. Maybe a 500 or 550 for atleast a little bit of headroom.

It'll use 250W.

M

14 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Just buy that 600W unit it'll be fine, or spend more money and get an even more reliable PSU, like a 650W Focus Gold.

 

You can never have enough wattage from a decent quality unit.

The better PSU may be worth it since you'll probably be overclocking the 980ti to like 1400mhz or above.

If you don't need 600W, why buy a lower quality 600W instead of a high quality 550W or 450W.

[Shyam Ganapathy]

Also to anyone that's looking here, where are some good places that I can find used gpu's and really just any hardware. I've been looking at craigslist, and ebay seems to be there but ive had my fair share of ebay deals where ebay wouldnt refund. 

[Shyam Ganapathy]

2 minutes ago, LienusLateTips said:

It'll use 250W.

M

If you don't need 600W, why buy a lower quality 600W instead of a high quality 550W or 450W.

TBH, headroom. Ill see if there are any PSU's that are lower wattage but better quality rn

[tzxazrael]

6 minutes ago, Shyam Ganapathy said:

Just not sure if ill find 980ti like performance in this price range

if you buy a prebuilt these days, and it actually has a discrete GPU card... it'll probably be a 10 series. maybe 1050/1060, or whatever the Radeon equivalent is. which, honestly, is enough to get by to start anyway. you can't afford the top-end stuff, so aiming for it is just going to gimp the build in some other area.

 

like my current build. (it was very educational. by which i mean i taught myself lots of "don't do it that way" tips.) 

Ryzen 7 2700X

Gigabyte Aorus Gaming 7 wifi

32gb 3200mhz ddr4 ram

500gb m.2 ssd

2x 3TB HDD

 

but the gpu is only a GTX 1060.

i mean, it totally gets the job -done-. i've only got a 27" 1080p monitor...

 

but i definitely could have gone better in gfx, if i hadn't spent $650 on RGB fans, and $750 on a ridiculous monster case (Corsair Obsidian 1000D).

 

and ofc, less than a month in and the mobo has farted out on me on the weekend lol.