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Anyone have anything they can tell me about an RX 470 in an old H67 board?

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Hello,

 

I am attempting to test a PowerColor RX 470 4GB in an HP pavilion p6780t desktop from 2011. I have the power issue taken care of, and there is a free PCI-E 2.0 x16 slot - all good there. However, it doesn't produce a POST. The motherboard is a PEGATRON Cleveland GL-8, that's H67 LGA1155 with an i5-2400 CPU installed; also, Speccy mentions 2AB6 for this mobo. The BIOS is v 7.15 which is from Dec 2011 and there is no later version provided by HP.

 

Does anyone around here have knowledge involving modern GPU's with this kind of old system? I was told I might need an "updated UEFI BIOS" to get this to POST; can anyone provide evidence confirming or denying this? And anything else that may be useful is greatly appreciated. Thanks very much in advance.

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I have used an RX 470 on a socket 775 G41-P33 Combo from MSI with a Core 2 Quad Q8400 so age isnt what makes the card not work. It's because it's a prebuilt system. Prebuilts run into compatibility problems all the time, regardless of age.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I have used an RX 470 on a socket 775 G41-P33 Combo from MSI with a Core 2 Quad Q8400 so age isnt what makes the card not work. It's because it's a prebuilt system. Prebuilts run into compatibility problems all the time, regardless of age.

So if this wasn't a prebuilt system but with a similar motherboard it would almost certainly work? Meaning the issue here is with HP's firmware or something?

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Some boards from the H6X series have issues with UEFI VBIOS initialization.  I have an ASUS H61 and to run RX 400/500 cards I have to configure the UEFI to run in legacy BIOS mode.  This mode/feature is sometimes referred to as "CSM".

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I had a RX480 in an old DELL with SandyBridge XEON and in a asrock b75 mobo with an i5-3450 worked in both systems.

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17 minutes ago, GnatDaGnat said:

similar motherboard

If it's something sold as a standalone product, then yes.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, KarathKasun said:

Some boards from the H6X series have issues with UEFI VBIOS initialization.  I have an ASUS H61 and to run RX 400/500 cards I have to configure the UEFI to run in legacy BIOS mode.  This mode/feature is sometimes referred to as "CSM".

This is very interesting to me - I'd never heard of a Video BIOS.... What I'm getting is the video card has its own firmware that in this case can't be initialized by the UEFI firmware and so it needs to run in legacy mode using the Compatibility Support Module - which is built into a UEFI system. Assuming that's correct, how should I go about enabling this in my BIOS? It sounds very familiar like I might've seen it looking through BIOS settings, but I'm not sure I'm thinking of the right thing..

 

Thanks a lot for anything further you can provide.

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1 hour ago, TitanXp said:

I had a RX480 in an old DELL with SandyBridge XEON and in a asrock b75 mobo with an i5-3450 worked in both systems.

Hmm so it sounds like this is a H6X specific thing. Thanks for your input

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Ok so I can't find any setting in my highly restricted HP BIOS interface about Legacy/UEFI modes and I can't even tell if my Windows 7 installation is being booted by UEFI or Legacy boot mode since the BIOS mode entry doesn't exist in System Information! WTF

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19 hours ago, GnatDaGnat said:

Ok so I can't find any setting in my highly restricted HP BIOS interface about Legacy/UEFI modes and I can't even tell if my Windows 7 installation is being booted by UEFI or Legacy boot mode since the BIOS mode entry doesn't exist in System Information! WTF

Welcome to the wonderful world of OEM firmware.

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