New Gaming Rig (Build or Buy)

[UrbanPhoenix]

I've recently been looking at buying or building a better PC. Currently I have a regular HP Phoenix 810-010. I have a NVIDIA GeForce GTX 960 2GB, with 16GB ram, and a Intel Core i7-6700 6th Gen.

I am looking for a PC with a NVIDIA GTX 1080 or 1080 ti, with 16 or 32 gb ram, and a good gaming CPU to run everything, maybe a Intel i7-8700K? My budget is still slightly undecided but its anywhere from $2000 to $3500.

As of right now I'm looking at customizing something from OMEN, but I'm willing to build my own if I get a better value for parts. Any suggestions on parts or computers?

[Beowulff83]

Are you able to drop in a 1080Ti into the phoenix?

[UrbanPhoenix]

17 minutes ago, Beowulff83 said:

Are you able to drop in a 1080Ti into the phoenix?

I doubt it, i dont feel like rearranging the whole case, there isnt enough room

 

[UrbanPhoenix]

20 minutes ago, Beowulff83 said:

Are you able to drop in a 1080Ti into the phoenix?

Plus the core really wouldnt be able to support all of it, I'd need a newer one to max it out.

 

[Streetguru]

9 minutes ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

Plus the core really wouldnt be able to support all of it, I'd need a newer one to max it out.

 

The 6700 is still perfectly fine for gaming, no reason to replace it. Should already be over 100fps in most games, an 8700K with an OC might get you 20fps more. Not a big deal for the money. Maybe hold off until next year for potential Ryzen 12 cores.

What's your monitor resolution/refresh rate?

[Beowulff83]

3 minutes ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

Plus the core really wouldnt be able to support all of it, I'd need a newer one to max it out.

You wont really  gain a whole lot jumping from 6700 to 8700k but if you are looking for max performance then you definitely want an 8700k 1080Ti build.  I have no experience with them so i cannot really recommend anything. . . my preference would be Evga gpu and AsRock or Asus motherboard.

[UrbanPhoenix]

16 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

The 6700 is still perfectly fine for gaming, no reason to replace it. Should already be over 100fps in most games, an 8700K with an OC might get you 20fps more. Not a big deal for the money. Maybe hold off until next year for potential Ryzen 12 cores.

What's your monitor resolution/refresh rate?

Its a SCEPTRE curved 27 inch, it sucks, im going to get a 4k gaming

 

[Streetguru]

9 minutes ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

Its a SCEPTRE curved 27 inch, it sucks, im going to get a 4k gaming

 

there's 100% no reason to replace your CPU then

 

Just buy a 32" 4k IPS display for now

 

Then save your money for the GTX 1180ti or Radeon NAVI w/e and you're all set

 

you might need a better power supply for the new GPU, and you might want a new case for better airflow when you upgrade the GPU

[UrbanPhoenix]

18 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

there's 100% no reason to replace your CPU then

 

Just buy a 32" 4k IPS display for now

 

Then save your money for the GTX 1180ti or Radeon NAVI w/e and you're all set

 

you might need a better power supply for the new GPU, and you might want a new case for better airflow when you upgrade the GPU

I was kind of thinking about getting this monitor... idk.

2018 Newest Premium Samsung 28" 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) Widescreen LED Gaming/Professional Business Monitor - AR 16:9 Response 1ms Response Time 1.07B Color Support Game Mode AMD FreeSync HDMI

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

I was kind of thinking about getting this monitor... idk.

2018 Newest Premium Samsung 28" 4K UHD (3840 x 2160) Widescreen LED Gaming/Professional Business Monitor - AR 16:9 Response 1ms Response Time 1.07B Color Support Game Mode AMD FreeSync HDMI

You don't want a TN panel if you can help it, you can just buy the monitor now and run games perfectly scaled at 1080p until newer/better GPUs come out.

This is the cheapest I'd recommend, though last black Friday there were some 32" IPS displays on sale around $350 or under, maybe wait for a sale on one of those

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yfx9TW/lg-27ud58-b-270-60hz-monitor-27ud58-b

[UrbanPhoenix]

2 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

You don't want a TN panel if you can help it, you can just buy the monitor now and run games perfectly scaled at 1080p until newer/better GPUs come out.

This is the cheapest I'd recommend, though last black Friday there were some 32" IPS displays on sale around $350 or under, maybe wait for a sale on one of those

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/yfx9TW/lg-27ud58-b-270-60hz-monitor-27ud58-b

Have they said when their releasing the new GPUs?

[Streetguru]

12 minutes ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

Have they said when their releasing the new GPUs?

rumors are in the 2nd half of the year if anything, you could go for a 1070ti if you really wanted an upgrade. those are under $500, a 5 minute OC gets you GTX 1080 performance. should be good for medium-high 4k gaming.

 

Your CPU is no bottleneck for 60hz gaming in any event.

[UrbanPhoenix]

6 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

rumors are in the 2nd half of the year if anything, you could go for a 1070ti if you really wanted an upgrade. those are under $500, a 5 minute OC gets you GTX 1080 performance. should be good for medium-high 4k gaming.

 

Your CPU is no bottleneck for 60hz gaming in any event.

To be completely honest I really want to build an RGB computer, I've been saving up for a while and can finally afford to pay for it. If I do, I'm most likely going to spend some extra money and get myself an GTX 1080 or an 1080 ti

[Streetguru]

52 minutes ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

To be completely honest I really want to build an RGB computer, I've been saving up for a while and can finally afford to pay for it. If I do, I'm most likely going to spend some extra money and get myself an GTX 1080 or an 1080 ti

not worth it right now. 1070ti is the max I'd recommend. best performance for the money in the high end.

If you really want RGB just replace your case with an H500P mesh and buy an RGB CPU cooler, problem solved, money saved.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H94vV6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H94vV6/by_merchant/

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Mesh White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $209.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-17 03:06 EDT-0400

[Ordinarily_Greater]

3 hours ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

To be completely honest I really want to build an RGB computer, I've been saving up for a while and can finally afford to pay for it. If I do, I'm most likely going to spend some extra money and get myself an GTX 1080 or an 1080 ti

just a list of RGB parts enough for your budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.79 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($194.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($814.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $2115.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-17 05:44 EDT-0400

[UrbanPhoenix]

6 hours ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

just a list of RGB parts enough for your budget

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($319.79 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H115i PRO 55.4 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F Gaming ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($194.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance RGB Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($179.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Samsung - 970 Pro 512GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB STRIX GAMING Video Card  ($814.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Define R6 Gunmetal TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($138.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($96.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $2115.21
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-17 05:44 EDT-0400

Thanks, I may swap out some things like the Ryzen 7 2700X for an Intel Core i7-7700K. I also need a HDD for the games so I'll buy the Western Digital 2TB.

[UrbanPhoenix]

9 hours ago, Streetguru said:

not worth it right now. 1070ti is the max I'd recommend. best performance for the money in the high end.

If you really want RGB just replace your case with an H500P mesh and buy an RGB CPU cooler, problem solved, money saved.
 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H94vV6
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/H94vV6/by_merchant/

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Mesh White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $209.98
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-06-17 03:06 EDT-0400

Thanks for the recommendations. The price difference between the two isn't too much so I think im just going to go with an 1080 or 1080 ti

[Ordinarily_Greater]

2 minutes ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

Thanks, I may swap out some things like the Ryzen 7 2700X for an Intel Core i7-7700K. I also need a HDD for the games so I'll buy the Western Digital 2TB.

did you typo-ed from a 8700K to 7700K? because why would you want to buy a new 7700K in 2018?

that parts list is up to you the important thing is that you have one unified RGB ecosystem (like Aura Sync) to sync up those sweet RGB nectars

[UrbanPhoenix]

1 minute ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

did you typo-ed from a 8700K to 7700K? because why would you want to buy a new 7700K in 2018?

that parts list is up to you the important thing is that you have one unified RGB ecosystem (like Aura Sync) to sync up those sweet RGB nectars

Yeah lol i typo-ed. I keep getting mixed up, I've been looking at processor benchmarks for 5 days now constantly, gets a bit confusing and jumbled in my mind. I like the RGB stuff though, I'll keep that.

[Ordinarily_Greater]

1 minute ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

Yeah lol i typo-ed. I keep getting mixed up, I've been looking at processor benchmarks for 5 days now constantly, gets a bit confusing and jumbled in my mind. I like the RGB stuff though, I'll keep that.

so in that parts list you have aura sync and corsair iCUE, which iCUE can sync up the RGB on the Asus graphics card as well

make sure you get Asus board if you want Aura Sync

[UrbanPhoenix]

3 minutes ago, Ordinarily_Greater said:

so in that parts list you have aura sync and corsair iCUE, which iCUE can sync up the RGB on the Asus graphics card as well

make sure you get Asus board if you want Aura Sync

Thanks, I probably would've messed that up, everything is so confusing.

[Streetguru]

4 hours ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

Thanks for the recommendations. The price difference between the two isn't too much so I think im just going to go with an 1080 or 1080 ti

1070ti/1080 are basically the same witch an OC on the 1070ti as it has no boost

 

a decently cooled 1080ti is like $800, not sure it's worth an extra $350, you don't want the bare minimum cooler like the MSI armor or Zotac Mini on a 1080ti.
 

 

[UrbanPhoenix]

42 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

1070ti/1080 are basically the same witch an OC on the 1070ti as it has no boost

 

a decently cooled 1080ti is like $800, not sure it's worth an extra $350, you don't want the bare minimum cooler like the MSI armor or Zotac Mini on a 1080ti.
 

 

Im most likely getting a OMEN with an i7-8700K, 16GB RAM, 750 W power supply, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti, and 512 GB SSD + 2TB HDD. Liquid Cooled.

Edited June 17, 2018 by UrbanPhoenix

[Streetguru]

37 minutes ago, UrbanPhoenix said:

Im most likely getting a OMEN with an i7-8700K, 16GB RAM, 750 W power supply, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1080ti, and 512 GB SSD + 2TB HDD. Liquid Cooled.

Probably better off just building it yourself

 

you're refering to the HP OMEN cube case thing right? What's the price at the end?

[UrbanPhoenix]

5 hours ago, Streetguru said:

Probably better off just building it yourself

 

you're refering to the HP OMEN cube case thing right? What's the price at the end?

Im referring to another case, a tower. I just payed $2625.