i7 8700k or Ryzen 2700X

[TommyTwommy]

which one of these would you rather get? I do everything on my pc, video editing, photo editing, gaming.. but nothing too hardcore.. They're the same price, only difference being the fact that I'll have to buy a new cooler for the 8700k which as an additional $50..

[AlTech]

3 minutes ago, berny22 said:

which one of these would you rather get? I do everything on my pc, video editing, photo editing, gaming.. but nothing too hardcore.. They're the same price, only difference being the fact that I'll have to buy a new cooler for the 8700k which as an additional $50..

Are you planning on gaming at 144Hz?

[TommyTwommy]

Just now, AluminiumTech said:

Are you planning on gaming at 144Hz?

No.. 1080p@60

[Wh0_Am_1]

5 minutes ago, berny22 said:

which one of these would you rather get? I do everything on my pc, video editing, photo editing, gaming.. but nothing too hardcore.. They're the same price, only difference being the fact that I'll have to buy a new cooler for the 8700k which as an additional $50..

Get the 2700x it better suits your use case any way.

[Princess Luna]

The i7 8700 locked on a b360 and 2666mhz memory for the ultimate performance per dollar.

[TommyTwommy]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

The i7 8700 locked on a b360 and 2666mhz memory for the ultimate performance per dollar.

I already bought 3600MHz trident memory

[Princess Luna]

Just now, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Get the 2700x it better suits your use case any way.

It does not, the i7 provides the superior experience specially if OP uses Adobe software for video editing and photo editing, as programs like photoshop uses mostly single thread performance and premiere pro now hardware accelerates with the iGPU making it faster and snappier than the Ryzen offering.

 

6 cores with hyper-threading is more than sufficient for multi-tasking as well.

[Princess Luna]

Just now, berny22 said:

I already bought 3600MHz trident memory

You needen't to... either ways my vote goes to the i7 from a person who has both the i7 and Ryzen 7 at hand, Intel simply is more stable, more compatible and now with the past updates that makes its iGPU useful it outperforms the Ryzen across the board.

[TommyTwommy]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

It does not, the i7 provides the superior experience specially if OP uses Adobe software for video editing and photo editing, as programs like photoshop uses mostly single thread performance and premiere pro now hardware accelerates with the iGPU making it faster and snappier than the Ryzen offering.

 

6 cores with hyper-threading is more than sufficient for multi-tasking as well.

I do indeed use photoshop and premiere...

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

It does not, the i7 provides the superior experience specially if OP uses Adobe software for video editing and photo editing, as programs like photoshop uses mostly single thread performance and premiere pro now hardware accelerates with the iGPU making it faster and snappier than the Ryzen offering.

 

6 cores with hyper-threading is more than sufficient for multi-tasking as well.

According to Quora photoshop prefers more cores. 

Quote

"Adobe Photoshop was the other extreme. Image processing has plenty of parallelism. The application was a natural when it came to multicore, and the company pioneered parallelizing their software."

 

[Tha Joker]

i7-8700k ~ Core performance per dollar.

[Princess Luna]

3 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

According to Quora photoshop prefers more cores. 

Sigh... I work with photoshop for 7 years... but sure "quora" is totally the most reliable source of information on Earth.

 

No it does not prefers more cores, learn it already so you don't make a fool of yourself on future references, PHOTO/IMAGE editing programs specially photoshop likes the best single thread performance you can throw at it which is Intel.

 

I love how 4 cores i7 CPUs already outperform the 8 cores Ryzen CPU

 

When we throw the 6 Cores variant into the mix all the better:

 

Cheers!

[Wh0_Am_1]

16 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

It does not, the i7 provides the superior experience specially if OP uses Adobe software for video editing and photo editing, as programs like photoshop uses mostly single thread performance and premiere pro now hardware accelerates with the iGPU making it faster and snappier than the Ryzen offering.

 

6 cores with hyper-threading is more than sufficient for multi-tasking as well.

And according to Puget's tests Adobe premiere also prefers more slower cores over fewer faster ones, yes this was done entirely with Intel hardware but I believe that it effectively proves my point that the 2700x is better for these tasks. 

 

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

I believe that it effectively proves my point that the 2700x is better for these

The best part is that you're Wrong by being outdated, and even when I said so "Intel now hardware accelerates using its idle iGPU"

 

Cheers kid!

[Wh0_Am_1]

1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

The best part is that you're Wrong by being outdated, and even when I said so "Intel now hardware accelerates using its idle iGPU"

 

Cheers kid!

Ok that makes sense.  

[SpiralTTGL]

prefers slower cores omegalul

[Tha Joker]

Intel Master Race.

[Princess Luna]

2 minutes ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Ok that makes sense.  

I'm very sorry if I got rough... but you gotta understand I reply to these threads every day... sometimes it gets stressing, I didn't want to over do with or any thing, all in all though I still want to let OP understand that Ryzen while perfectly capable and good for the tasks; it's main appeal is really price if you cheap up with a b350 and a Ryzen 7 2700 and overclock it...

 

If he can afford a full i7 8700K build that's preferable at least for now, thank you and again apologize any excess.

[Wh0_Am_1]

3 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

I'm very sorry if I got rough... but you gotta understand I reply to these threads every day... sometimes it gets stressing, I didn't want to over do with or any thing, all in all though I still want to let OP understand that Ryzen while perfectly capable and good for the tasks; it's main appeal is really price if you cheap up with a b350 and a Ryzen 7 2700 and overclock it...

 

If he can afford a full i7 8700K build that's preferable at least for now, thank you and again apologize any excess.

I understand I have similar instances on a regular basis, I just missed this update to Intel hardware. No one person can be right all the time, not even Linus. 

 

[TahoeDust]

The correct answer has always been Intel...even for those 10 minutes everyone sait it wasn't.

[thelightninja]

Ok, I just looked over the thread before I replied and here is my 2 cents.

 

I recently was in the exact situation you are. I have always had Intel CPUs starting with the Pentium 3. However, when upgrading from my 4790K I was really considering the Ryzen 2700x. Because based on the reviews it was obvious; ryzen has an edge if multiple cores are utilized well, and the i7 is preferable if single core performance is most important.

 

I don't game, but I multitask a lot, so I though the Ryzen, being cheaper, would be the way to go. However, here is where I decided on the Intel.

 

Sure, Ryzen can be cheaper if you get really cheap motherboard and ram. However, if you do the research Ryzen 2700x performs best with fast ram, and right now ram is EXPENSIVE! So if you want at least 3200mhz ram for the ryzen, then there goes your savings. Because from my experience, intel is very fast even with average ram, say 2600mhz, and it doesn't require fast ram to perform at it's best, like the ryzen does.

 

Secondly, it also appears to get a good OC with 2700x you need the new x470 motherboards, which ARE EXPENSIVE!

 

Thus, unless you go budget on ram and motherboard, in my opinion Ryzen isn't any less expensive then the 8700k route. And I just don't feel right getting a top of the line CPU and cheaping out on the MOBO and ram. 

 

Lastly, the thought of having a CPU running 5ghz 24/7 was pretty irresistible. 

[TommyTwommy]

I mean, to be honest I always preferred Intel because their stuff was always more compatible, reliable and up-to date.. After all they've had no competition until recently.. AMD is still too new and I am hearing all the time that people run intro trouble.. it might not be big stuff, it might be rare.. but I think Intel will still be king for some time.. although their products cost more, I think it is totally justified..

 

Even tho I had AMD CPUs in the past and had absolutely no problems with them, I just feel safer with Intel for some reason.. I'm just hearing a lot of bad stuff about Ryzen and good stuff about Intel...

[TommyTwommy]

The thing is X470 and Z370 are the same price..the 8700k and the 2700x are the same price.. and I already have 3600MHz Trident memory..

 

also I will get a decent cooler with the ryzen.. oh this is a tough choice...

[porina]

Just for a totally irrelevant and stupid way of choosing: which of the following do you like running more? Prime95 or Cinebench? If Prime95 get Intel, if Cinebench, get Ryzen

[thelightninja]

1 hour ago, berny22 said:

The thing is X470 and Z370 are the same price..the 8700k and the 2700x are the same price.. and I already have 3600MHz Trident memory..

 

also I will get a decent cooler with the ryzen.. oh this is a tough choice...

Honestly then, get AMD! I really think we need to keep the competition in the market, and I sort of regret not getting a ryzen! LOL So get the 2700x and I know you'll enjoy it! Plus, you have the fast ram to take advantage!