Recommendations for a minimal 850 watt UPS.

[speedbeastxx]

My house has old crappy circuits and the fuse box always blows when we have to many things plugged in. What UPS do you recommend? (min 850 watts)

[LienusLateTips]

The UPS won't help if you plug too many things in lol

[speedbeastxx]

Just now, JDE said:

The UPS won't help if you plug too many things in lol

I want it for its temporary battery backup.

[W-L]

3 minutes ago, speedbeastxx said:

My house has old crappy circuits and the fuse box always blows when we have to many things plugged in. What UPS do you recommend? (min 850 watts)

It would be recommended to have someone come to check your electrical system in your home as it sounds it's fairly overloaded with too many circuits one a single fuse or breaker. As for a UPS unit it only needs to be as large as the load your applying to it, if it's the specs in your signatures a 600W unit is more than enough including peripherals and networking equipment. 

 

http://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/products/Back-UPS-PRO-BR-1000VA-SineWave-10-Outlets-2-USB-Charging-Ports-AVR-LCD-interface/P-BR1000MS

https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/cp1000pfclcd/

 

[speedbeastxx]

1 minute ago, W-L said:

It would be recommended to have someone come to check your electrical system in your home as it sounds it's fairly overloaded with too many circuits one a single fuse or breaker. As for a UPS unit it only needs to be as large as the load your applying to it, if it's the specs in your signatures a 600W unit is more than enough including peripherals and networking equipment. 

 

http://www.apc.com/shop/us/en/products/Back-UPS-PRO-BR-1000VA-SineWave-10-Outlets-2-USB-Charging-Ports-AVR-LCD-interface/P-BR1000MS

https://www.cyberpowersystems.com/product/ups/cp1000pfclcd/

 

My computer alone uses almost 500 watts, the reason why i dont have an electrician change the wiring is that when the house was built in 1929 the wiring was crap and still is. my room is connected to the garage and the kitchen all on one circuit. So the cost of changing it would be very expensive. 

[GOTSpectrum]

3 minutes ago, speedbeastxx said:

My computer alone uses almost 500 watts, the reason why i dont have an electrician change the wiring is that when the house was built in 1929 the wiring was crap and still is. my room is connected to the garage and the kitchen all on one circuit. So the cost of changing it would be very expensive. 

1929, so, do you have knob and tube wiring? Because if so, damn. 

[speedbeastxx]

1 minute ago, Ben Quigley said:

1929, so, do you have knob and tube wiring? Because if so, damn. 

its not the wires them selves they have been updated in the 90's, its the layout that hasn't changed. 

[GOTSpectrum]

3 minutes ago, speedbeastxx said:

its not the wires them selves they have been updated in the 90's, its the layout that hasn't changed. 

The layout must have changed, just not into something very intelligent.

[W-L]

13 minutes ago, speedbeastxx said:

My computer alone uses almost 500 watts, the reason why i dont have an electrician change the wiring is that when the house was built in 1929 the wiring was crap and still is. my room is connected to the garage and the kitchen all on one circuit. So the cost of changing it would be very expensive. 

It needs to be address regardless if your constantly tripping breakers let it be running a dedicated line to your room or getting into the whole system. Your system won't draw more than 450W max so at 600W you will have a decently healthy overhead. 

[GOTSpectrum]

Anyway, I would really recommend getting an electrician to atleast give you a better breaker. Even if that can't run a new circuit.

[speedbeastxx]

11 minutes ago, W-L said:

It needs to be address regardless if your constantly tripping breakers let it be running a dedicated line to your room or getting into the whole system. Your system won't draw more than 450W max so at 600W you will have a decently healthy overhead. 

ok, thanks for the help.

 

10 minutes ago, Ben Quigley said:

Anyway, I would really recommend getting an electrician to atleast give you a better breaker. Even if that can't run a new circuit.

I will look into that.

[GOTSpectrum]

Just now, speedbeastxx said:

I will look into that.

That is, if the conductors can takes any more current. But an electrician will be able to work that out.

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

I'd say it's more worth the money to get your wiring fixed. If you are in Chicago as you say I don't think the power is going to be unstable, so a UPS is really unnecessary but old wiring can be dangerous.

[W-L]

2 minutes ago, speedbeastxx said:

I will look into that.

1 minute ago, Ben Quigley said:

That is, if the conductors can takes any more current. But an electrician will be able to work that out.

You can't just change the breaker and not the wiring your asking for a house fire if you leave the smaller wires but force more current through them. 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

Old wiring can cause electrical fires if sparking. I'd seriously look into getting it upgraded/replaced

[speedbeastxx]

1 minute ago, orbitalbuzzsaw said:

Old wiring can cause electrical fires if sparking. I'd seriously look into getting it upgraded/replaced

wires have been updated to code, how the power is distributed to each circuit is horrible. 

[GOTSpectrum]

2 minutes ago, W-L said:

You can't just change the breaker and not the wiring your asking for a house fire if you leave the smaller wires but force more current through them. 

I'm aware, I by better I orginally meant if the quality was sub-par, then realized the way it could be taken. Wiring is very different over that side of the pond I believe anyway. 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

1 minute ago, speedbeastxx said:

wires have been updated to code, how the power is distributed to each circuit is horrible. 

In that case I'd look into upgrading your... stufff (I don't know how electrical stuff works)

[W-L]

1 minute ago, Ben Quigley said:

I'm aware, I by better I orginally meant if the quality was sub-par, then realized the way it could be taken. Wiring is very different over that side of the pond I believe anyway. 

Yeah in the north america there are multiple gauges of wiring used for different amperage of circuits from 15 - 50Amps since we don't fuse our electronics on the plug side. 

[GOTSpectrum]

1 minute ago, W-L said:

Yeah in the north america there are multiple gauges of wiring used for different amperage of circuits from 15 - 50Amps since we don't fuse our electronics on the plug side. 

Interesting, we also have different gauges, called cross sectional area, e.g. 1.5mm², 1.75mm², etc, etc. But for mains I've only ever seen twin 'mains' used in residence. A standard overspec'ed conductor used because we have ring mains rather than radial like many other places. A few very high power appliances have their own runs though, like ovens and electrical boilers.

[W-L]

1 minute ago, Ben Quigley said:

Interesting, we also have different gauges, called cross sectional area, e.g. 1.5mm², 1.75mm², etc, etc. But for mains I've only ever seen twin 'mains' used in residence. A standard overspec'ed conductor used because we have ring mains rather than radial like many other places. A few very high power appliances have their own runs though, like ovens and electrical boilers.

Makes sense you want to dedicated line for the high current devices, depending where you are as it varies but in North America it can be ridiculous like an absolute max of 12 outputs per 15 amp breaker so it only gives around 1800W max for the whole circuit. Most places I see never do that much cause you will see issues with overloading far too often. In older homes if they didn't think ahead and wired it to the max with lines in the kitchen and other places that have high current appliances tripping a breaker is pretty common. 

[GOTSpectrum]

7 minutes ago, W-L said:

Makes sense you want to dedicated line for the high current devices, depending where you are as it varies but in North America it can be ridiculous like an absolute max of 12 outputs per 15 amp breaker so it only gives around 1800W max for the whole circuit. Most places I see never do that much cause you will see issues with overloading far too often. In older homes if they didn't think ahead and wired it to the max with lines in the kitchen and other places that have high current appliances tripping a breaker is pretty common. 

I think my pc setup pulls like 1800watts on its own... 

[W-L]

Just now, Ben Quigley said:

I think my pc setup pulls like 1800watts on its own... 

Unless your running a server or something I doubt it, most single CPU and GPU systems don't breaker past 500W. 

[orbitalbuzzsaw]

12 minutes ago, W-L said:

Unless your running a server or something I doubt it, most single CPU and GPU systems don't breaker past 500W. 

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cBcmD2

 

/s I know this is a stupid build