First build (mostly for gaming) and need thoughts/suggestions on where I can save money and where to invest money

[BradAllen1873]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRDPXP
CPU: AMD Ryzen 1700x 3.4 8-core processor

GPU: Asus - GeForce Gtx 1060 6GB Dual video card

Memory: G. Skill - Ripjaws V series 16GB (2x 8 GB) DDR-3200
Motherboard: ASRock - X370 Taichi ATX AM4
Storage: Seagate barracuda 2TB 3.5 7200 RPM internal
Power Supply: superNOVA G3 750 wat 80+ gold certified fully modular.
External Storage: Seagate back up plus 1TB

 So that's it any suggestions are appreciated. Oh, and if it's not already apparent I'm not very savvy on computers.

[LienusLateTips]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($72.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card  ($289.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: BitFenix - Whisper M 450W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Other: Kinguin Windows ($30.00)
Total: $1197.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-18 19:31 EDT-0400\

 

EDIT: This PSU would be same price due to shipping

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor  ($239.99 @ Newegg) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master - MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($164.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($72.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1060 6GB 6GB Dual Video Card  ($289.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Kinguin Windows ($30.00)
Total: $1207.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-18 19:32 EDT-0400

[.Apex.]

this seems perfect to me.. you can save some money by going with a lower wattage power supply, because you don't need 750w, but if you want future proof when you wanna upgrade then that's fine, also you don't need such an expensive motherboard.

you can probably save 80-100$ by doing what i said, if that's worth it thats up to you.

you can also save an extra 70$ if you go with the 1600x, if you're only strictly gaming, because the 1700x won't benefit you in gaming alone. (it's better for multitasking while gaming)

[Salv8 (sam)]

cut down on your processor and get a 4 core, most games don't befit from more cores (garrys mod and minecraft are some exceptions)

if you are playing CPU intensive games that benefit from more cores, get the 6 core, or 8 if it's something like Universe Sandbox 2 in that case just ignore me...

use the money you saved on the processor and spend it more on your GPU, i got the cheapest 1070 and it runs a little hot (~80C (Celsius)) but i'm fine with that

[itisme911]

Your motherboard supports m.2 I would look at getting a 256 gig ssd or a 500 whatever is best for your  budget and a 1tb hdd. And if you don't plan on doing any editing content creation etc I agree you could get a lower tier cpu and meybe go for more GPU power, though what resolution you're looking to play at should affect your decision..

[LienusLateTips]

13 minutes ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

cut down on your processor and get a 4 core, most games don't befit from more cores (garrys mod and minecraft are some exceptions)

if you are playing CPU intensive games that benefit from more cores, get the 6 core, or 8 if it's something like Universe Sandbox 2 in that case just ignore me...

use the money you saved on the processor and spend it more on your GPU, i got the cheapest 1070 and it runs a little hot (~80C (Celsius)) but i'm fine with that

When did you get your info?

 

Why does the R5 1600 wreck the i5 7600K to hell

 

Why did Intel replace a 4 core chip with a 6 core chip and have it better for gaming

[kelvinhall05]

I'd swap the CPU for a 1600 and up the GPU to a 1070 if possible.

[Salv8 (sam)]

8 minutes ago, JDE said:

When did you get your info?

the second i was born... PCMR baby's always know what PC config they need... it's in their blood... (lol) nah, i refresh my knowledge every time something happens in the tech community so i stay up to date often 

9 minutes ago, JDE said:

Why does the R5 1600 wreck the i5 7600K to hell

i didn't say anything about intel, hell the dude could get the 3 series (AMD ryzen, not intel 3rd gen) if the games he is playing don't benefit from more cores and he would probably get the same amount of performance he wants...

12 minutes ago, JDE said:

Why did Intel replace a 4 core chip with a 6 core chip and have it better for gaming

cause people wanted more cores in the lower end line-up of their CPU's

 

also chill, take a deep breath man...

[itisme911]

1 minute ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

the second i was born... PCMR baby's always know what PC config they need... it's in their blood... (lol) nah, i refresh my knowledge every time something happens in the tech community so i stay up to date often 

i didn't say anything about intel, hell the dude could get the 3 series (AMD ryzen, not intel 3rd gen) if the games he is playing don't benefit from more cores and he would probably get the same amount of performance he wants...

cause people wanted more cores in the lower end line-up of their CPU's

 

also chill, take a deep breath man...

Yeah little strong on the uptake this guy had good intentions

[redsquirrel0249]

RAM is good, storage is good. 550w PSU should be fine. You can tell yourself that a 750w PSU is an upgrade path, but for the most part, GPUs and CPUs are only going to get more efficient. I would suggest a different balance of CPU and GPU. Imo, 1700X could use some more graphics power, but it all depends on what you're doing with it. I'm running a Ryzen 5 1600 with a 1070 and that's relatively balanced.

 

I'd recommend adding a SSD boot drive as well. @itisme911 Had a good point about usage of your M.2 port, so that's also an option if you're interested in some higher speed storage.

[LienusLateTips]

6 minutes ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

the second i was born... PCMR baby's always know what PC config they need... it's in their blood... (lol) nah, i refresh my knowledge every time something happens in the tech community so i stay up to date often 

i didn't say anything about intel, hell the dude could get the 3 series (AMD ryzen, not intel 3rd gen) if the games he is playing don't benefit from more cores and he would probably get the same amount of performance he wants...

cause people wanted more cores in the lower end line-up of their CPU's

 

also chill, take a deep breath man...

Most games use 6-8+ threads. Unless all you play are old versions of Minecraft, it'll use more than 4 threads. 

[itisme911]

Just now, JDE said:

Most games use 6-8+ threads. Unless all you play are old versions of Minecraft, it'll use more than 4 threads. 

Though a 4 core 8 thread is plenty even for 4k gaming, the extra cores would be great if you need em but costly if you don't.

[Salv8 (sam)]

1 minute ago, JDE said:

Most games use 6-8+ threads. Unless all you play are old versions of Minecraft, it'll use more than 4 threads. 

yet the minimum requirements of most modern games is dual core (quad on really recent ones) and the recommended requirements is quad core

if all you are doing is gaming (and productivity) then a 4 core is great for what you want, if you want to video edit or do 3d modeling/rendering then 6-8 is better

as @BradAllen1873 said right in the title 

Quote

mostly for gaming

this computer doesn't need more cores, it will just be a waste of money...

my personal system is a 6 core but i do video editing and my workload benefits from my system config...

[itisme911]

1 minute ago, Salv8 (sam) said:

yet the minimum requirements of most modern games is dual core (quad on really recent ones) and the recommended requirements is quad core

if all you are doing is gaming (and productivity) then a 4 core is great for what you want, if you want to video edit or do 3d modeling/rendering then 6-8 is better

as @BradAllen1873 said right in the title 

this computer doesn't need more cores, it will just be a waste of money...

my personal system is a 6 core but i do video editing and my workload benefits from my system config...

I went for 4c 8thread when it was looking great and still works great even for editing the cores arent NECESSARY unless they are, listen to Salv8

[LienusLateTips]

16 minutes ago, itisme911 said:

I went for 4c 8thread when it was looking great and still works great even for editing the cores arent NECESSARY unless they are, listen to Salv8

Have you tried a 8 core? It works much better for those tasks, and in many games.

[itisme911]

Just now, JDE said:

Have you tried a 8 core? It works much better for those tasks, and in many games.

4k has been limited to 60hz till recently and I played 4k max at 80's frames with 2 1080's and I suck at editing so faster cpu means nothing at this point but I rarely notice lag on my rig

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) better for just gaming.
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($160.29 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($72.27 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC2 Gaming iCX Video Card  ($449.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini Dark TG MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($94.89 @ OutletPC) 
External Storage: Seagate - Backup Plus 1TB External Hard Drive  ($59.87 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1286.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-18 21:02 EDT-0400

[itisme911]

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor  ($178.89 @ OutletPC) better for just gaming.
Motherboard: Gigabyte - B360M DS3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($65.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: Team - T-Force / Night Hawk 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($160.29 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($72.27 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC2 Gaming iCX Video Card  ($449.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Mini Dark TG MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($84.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit  ($94.89 @ OutletPC) 
External Storage: Seagate - Backup Plus 1TB External Hard Drive  ($59.87 @ OutletPC) 
Total: $1286.96
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-18 21:02 EDT-0400

EWW 5-10$ windows on ebay :3 and the 860 EVO is on sale rn? and idk i think he might have his backup plus already but Ive NEVER needed a tb myself

[BradAllen1873]

Thanks everyone for the suggestions! At the moment this is my new build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxjmr6

Although I'll more than likely just suck it up and get both the 1700/1070 combo.

 

[Taf the Ghost]

18 minutes ago, BradAllen1873 said:

Thanks everyone for the suggestions! At the moment this is my new build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxjmr6

 

Looks good. Might want to add 1-2 case fans.

[DocSwag]

19 hours ago, BradAllen1873 said:

Thanks everyone for the suggestions! At the moment this is my new build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxjmr6

Although I'll more than likely just suck it up and get both the 1700/1070 combo.

 

What are you doing with the pc?

 

At the very least get rid of the cooler and just use a 2600. If you don't want to OC though I would suggest an i5 8400 unless you are doing more than just gaming.

[LienusLateTips]

19 hours ago, BradAllen1873 said:

Thanks everyone for the suggestions! At the moment this is my new build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bxjmr6

Although I'll more than likely just suck it up and get both the 1700/1070 combo.

 

The stock cooler is better than that cooler. Get a better 1070 with more fans instead.

[itisme911]

Looks ok meybe go for a card with a game or something included theres always a sale, also windows under $10 on ebay