build plan First Rig, Big Budget, Saved Up For A While

[Gothic Melody]

Hi there! I'm trying to plan to make my first custom rig, and I have ideas, but I don't know how to go about making sure the rig I've planned will do what I need it to.

 

I plan to do a lot of gaming and content creation, which is why I chose AMD over Intel. I like to stream and record my gameplay, the streaming happening on twitch, and the recordings going to YouTube {just for pleasure mostly}. But I also do a lot of digital art, both for pleasure, and to get better, since I want to get into the field of production art and animation {I'm going into college for it}. I like to play games from a lot of different genres, but my favorites are RPGs. I'm really hoping to get at least mid to hopefully high or even ultra settings in some of my favorite games like all the Fallout games, Skyrim, The Witcher 3, WoW, and Saints Row 3 & 4.

 

I also do 3D modeling, rendering, and texturing in Blender, which I need supported as well.

 

I've recently gotten into Fortnite a bit, so low to mid settings for that would be nice, but not a requirement, as I'm not super into it. I really only checked it out because I kept hearing about it everywhere and I wanted to see what all the hype was about. It's ok I guess, but it barely registers on my personal game radar.

 

I live in the USA, my max budget for the components themselves is $2,500 but would prefer to keep it closer to $2,000 so I have extra room in the budget for a good 4k, non-curved, monitor, without having to save up more.

 

The other peripherals I already have from either already ordering them, or from pre-builts I've had in the past. I currently only have a laptop, and am looking to get the rig and all its parts by the end of this year. I'm considering waiting to buy everything around Black Friday/Cyber Monday, since I heard that you can get good deals on parts around then, but I don't know.

 

This is the build I've planned so far, critiques and tweaks are very welcome!! The case I'm pretty firm on though, same with the Blu-ray drive, since I still like to watch DVDs on the computer, and I mostly have Blu-rays these days. Everything else is flexible though!

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqWC6s
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqWC6s/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1900X 3.8GHz 8-Core Processor  ($424.65 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($175.12 @ Newegg) 
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste  ($5.45 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X399 AORUS Gaming 7 ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($339.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($188.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Thermaltake - The Tower 900 Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ B&H) 
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($48.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.2 CFM  120mm Fans  ($98.21 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1946.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-14 21:33 EDT-0400

 

Edit: Just re-formatting to be more easily legible, nothing was added or removed.

Edit: Just emphasizing some parts that a lot of commentors keep ignoring.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I also do 3D modeling.

[Herman Mcpootis]

that Build's a train wreck, let us come up with something better...

[Canada EH]

you would get better replies if you changed your wall of words into a regular paragraph.

intro to the problem/issue

the body

ending - recap and questions

 

https://www.writing.com/main/view_item/item_id/927399-How-To-Write-A-Good-Paragraph

 

 

Why do you require the threadripper, seems overkill.

can do better with brand name ram

games prefer higher ipc through rate and high hertz

 

 

 

 

[Gothic Melody]

Just now, Canada EH said:

you would get better replies if you changed your wall of words into a regular paragraph.

intro to the problem/issue

the body

ending - recap and questions

 

 

 

Ah! Sorry about that, I typed more than I meant to, and I'm used to my phone's auto-formatting add-on fixing unintentionally long posts. I'll adjust that right away.

[Jurrunio]

I guess you want Threadripper for future upgrades to CPUs with higher core count? Otherwise there's no advantage of 1900X when you can get the same performance from a Ryzen 7 for less money because both the CPU and motherboard will be cheaper.

 

Then there's the RGB problem. Do you need that many? They inflate the cost a lot.

[Gothic Melody]

5 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

that Build's a train wreck, let us come up with something better...

I'm all up for that if you have any suggestions!

[hconverse02]

This is not a very balanced or good build

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Liquid Freezer 360 74.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($115.72 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($134.23 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($178.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($869.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($89.99 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Acer - XB281HK bmiprz 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  ($549.99 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2508.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-14 21:50 EDT-0400

[Gothic Melody]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

I guess you want Threadripper for future upgrades to CPUs with higher core count? Otherwise there's no advantage of 1900X when you can get the same performance from a Ryzen 7 for less money because both the CPU and motherboard will be cheaper.

 

Then there's the RGB problem. Do you need that many? They inflate the cost a lot.

Yeah, I plan to upgrade to a 1950X threadripper and a 1080ti once I save up more for upgrades. I picked the 1900X to start so I wouldn't have to change motherboards when I upgrade, so I only have to focus on upgrading 2 easily replaceable parts instead of 3 or more.

[hconverse02]

5 minutes ago, Gothic Melody said:

I'm all up for that if you have any suggestions!

I don't think threadripper would suit your workload at all:

 

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - STRIX X370-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($157.60 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($350.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($134.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($869.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.2 CFM  120mm Fans  ($98.21 @ Amazon) 
Monitor: Asus - MG28UQ 28.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  ($366.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2602.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-14 21:57 EDT-0400

 

 

3 minutes ago, Gothic Melody said:

Yeah, I plan to upgrade to a 1950X threadripper and a 1080ti once I save up more for upgrades. I picked the 1900X to start so I wouldn't have to change motherboards when I upgrade, so I only have to focus on upgrading 2 easily replaceable parts instead of 3 or more.

Waste of money to get a $400 cpu just to upgrade it later to something that you won't utilize fully, same thing with the gpu.  A 1050ti is a bad balance with a 1900x when you want to game, stream and work on the same computer.

Edited May 15, 2018 by hconverse02
with a monitor

[Reaper1217]

Try this

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HGwXyX
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HGwXyX/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7GHz 8-Core Processor  ($324.98 @ SuperBiiz) 
CPU Cooler: Corsair - H100i v2 70.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($94.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($140.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($152.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 1TB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($269.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: *Asus - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB TURBO Video Card  ($545.88 @ B&H) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C White TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $1654.79
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-14 21:55 EDT-0400

[hconverse02]

3 minutes ago, Reaper1217 said:

-snip-

Shitty psu, get a better one for $20 more like an evga g3 

[Gothic Melody]

3 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

I don't think threadripper would suit your workload at all:

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 4 50.5 CFM CPU Cooler  ($84.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Crosshair VII Hero (Wi-Fi) ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($289.89 @ B&H) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($350.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 860 Evo 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($134.89 @ SuperBiiz) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($59.79 @ OutletPC) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($869.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Fractal Design - Meshify C Dark TG ATX Mid Tower Case  ($88.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.2 CFM  120mm Fans  ($98.21 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2367.57
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-14 21:53 EDT-0400

 

Waste of money to get a $400 cpu just to upgrade it later to something that you won't utilize fully, same thing with the gpu.  A 1050ti is a bad balance with a 1900x when you want to game, stream and work on the same computer.

I keep forgetting to mention it, but the animation part of my initial post refers to 3d modeling and animation, as well as 2d. So it needs to be able to handle Blender.

[Starelementpoke]

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VMDNcY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VMDNcY/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Liquid Freezer 240 74.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($77.15 @ Newegg Business) 
Motherboard: MSI - X470 GAMING PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($139.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($152.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC2 Video Card  ($760.29 @ B&H) 
Case: NZXT - Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($79.99 @ Newegg) 
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($48.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($4.29 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($4.29 @ SuperBiiz) 
Case Fan: ARCTIC - Arctic F12 74.0 CFM  120mm Fan  ($4.29 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $1822.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-14 21:59 EDT-0400

[hconverse02]

1 minute ago, Gothic Melody said:

I keep forgetting to mention it, but the animation part of my initial post refers to 3d modeling and animation, as well as 2d. So it needs to be able to handle Blender.

A ryzen 2700 can handle blender just fine, probably similarly to a 1900x.

[Herman Mcpootis]

16 minutes ago, hconverse02 said:

Shitty psu, get a better one for $20 more like an evga g3 

the TX550M is good quality.

[Gothic Melody]

So far no one's paying attention to the fact that I really want the case I put in the initial build, and only one person has kept the blu-ray driver that I specifically said I needed...and while I understand that a lot of storage space is good, I'd rather spend the extra money on an M.2 1TB SSD initially, then add to storage by adding a 2TB normal SSD later on, since they're both better than HDDs...I've had a lot of issues with HDDs crapping out on me, and I'd rather avoid them altogether. These might seem like minor nit-picks, or the fact that I want an optical drive might sound stupid, but I have a lot of reasoning behind these things.

[Crunchy Dragon]

10 minutes ago, Gothic Melody said:

I'd rather spend the extra money on an M.2 1TB SSD initially, then add to storage by adding a 2TB normal SSD later on, since they're both better than HDDs

For mass storage, practically nothing beats an HDD. If you get a good quality one, you're not going to have the problems of them dying and you'll save money. SSDs cost more $/Gb than HDDs, and probably always will.

 

SSDs are really only better than HDDs in terms of speed, which isn't a concern for mass storage. Besides, you'll have a higher storage capacity with HDDs. Very few SSDs go past 2Tb, while a decent HDD can get you twice that for roughly half the price.

[Herman Mcpootis]

18 minutes ago, Gothic Melody said:

So far no one's paying attention to the fact that I really want the case I put in the initial build, and only one person has kept the blu-ray driver that I specifically said I needed...and while I understand that a lot of storage space is good, I'd rather spend the extra money on an M.2 1TB SSD initially, then add to storage by adding a 2TB normal SSD later on, since they're both better than HDDs...I've had a lot of issues with HDDs crapping out on me, and I'd rather avoid them altogether. These might seem like minor nit-picks, or the fact that I want an optical drive might sound stupid, but I have a lot of reasoning behind these things.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 2700 3.2GHz 8-Core Processor  ($289.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC - Liquid Freezer 360 74.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($115.72 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($134.23 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: GeIL - SUPER LUCE RGB SYNC 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($178.88 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Toshiba - 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($69.99 @ Newegg Marketplace) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($869.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake - The Tower 900 Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - RMx White 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($149.99 @ Amazon) 
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($48.89 @ OutletPC) 
Monitor: LG - 27UD60-B 27.0" 3840x2160 60Hz Monitor  ($289.00 @ B&H) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Other: Phanteks PH-FF120RGBP Halos RGB Fan Frame – High density LEDs, RGB,  ($9.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $2496.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-14 23:52 EDT-0400

happy now?

[Gothic Melody]

2 minutes ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

For mass storage, practically nothing beats an HDD. If you get a good quality one, you're not going to have the problems of them dying and you'll save money. SSDs cost more $/Gb than HDDs, and probably always will.

 

SSDs are really only better than HDDs in terms of speed, which isn't a concern for mass storage. Besides, you'll have a higher storage capacity with HDDs. Very few SSDs go past 2Tb, while a decent HDD can get you twice that for roughly half the price.

I thought SSDs did more than that..but still, there are no moving parts in SSDs, where HDDs have a bunch of them and can break or burn out quite easily. I've had several of them in the past that burned out and lost me tons of files. Also, SSDs are on their way up capacity-wise, and since I plan to wait to add more, it's likely they'll go down in price by the time I get them.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Just now, Gothic Melody said:

I thought SSDs did more than that..but still, there are no moving parts in SSDs, where HDDs have a bunch of them and can break or burn out quite easily. I've had several of them in the past that burned out and lost me tons of files. Also, SSDs are on their way up capacity-wise, and since I plan to wait to add more, it's likely they'll go down in price by the time I get them.

The only real benefit of an SSD is speed. Again, get a good quality drive and you're not likely to have them die on you. WD Reds are usually good for mass storage, and are designed for 24/7 operation.

 

On another note, I've never heard about a WD Red drive dying...

[Gothic Melody]

Just now, Crunchy Dragon said:

The only real benefit of an SSD is speed. Again, get a good quality drive and you're not likely to have them die on you. WD Reds are usually good for mass storage, and are designed for 24/7 operation.

 

On another note, I've never heard about a WD Red drive dying...

They weren't WD Red drives, they were some off-brands that were in pre-builts. I didn't realize that there are some that aren't suited for 24/7 operation. I'll see what I can find for HDDs that can go 24/7. I'll probably start with the WD Reds you mentioned.

[Jurrunio]

My attempt:

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Rp4sZ
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7Rp4sZ/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1950X 3.4GHz 16-Core Processor  ($878.99 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($175.12 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: Asus - ROG Strix X399-E Gaming EATX TR4 Motherboard  ($314.00 @ B&H) 
Memory: Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($180.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Thermaltake - The Tower 900 Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - FOCUS Plus Gold 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($99.99 @ Newegg) 
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($48.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Thermaltake - Riing Plus 14 RGB TT Premium Edition (3 Fan Pack) 63.2 CFM  140mm Fans  ($107.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $2140.64
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-15 01:56 EDT-0400

 

1950X, because 1900X is no faster than a Ryzen 7 and wont sell well in the used market, which means 1900x --> 1950x route uses too much money to do. 1920X is a better option than 1900x because it does sell in the used market, though you will want to upgrade the CPU later.

 

The SSD here will hold the OS and software. Leave the mass storage for HDDs, because they are cheap enough for you to run RAID, which means HDDs preserve more data with less risk of losing them than SSDs at the same time. There are people using NVMe SSDs in machines for productivity work because importing files is much faster this way, but because budget is running low, treat an NVMe SSD as a future upgrade.

 

btw, the SSD you chose is still a SATA SSD, which means it's no faster than many 2.5" drives like the one I picked.

 

As for the 850W PSU, that's because Ryzen CPUs are getting more power hungry and I want it to last upgrades. The good thing about Zen is that power draw of the CPUs scale well with core count. An 8 core Ryzen 7 1700 at its 1.4V 4GHz overclock draws about 120w, which means the 1950X doing the same thing will draw 240w. However, the newer Zen+ based Ryzen 7 2700X at its 1.4V 4.2GHz overclock draws about 180w, which means the 2950x (if naming carries on) will draw 360w easily. Who knows how much power the last 16 core Ryzen on TR4 platform will draw? Of course, the solution can easily be 'dont push it so much', and indeed Ryzen needs a lot less voltage at about 200-300MHz lower than its limit and drops power draw a lot. I'd still play safe here. Keep in mind that you have to keep 300W extra capacity for a top graphics card from Nvidia, and another 100w for the motherboard, storage drives and other stuff.

 

Then it comes the graphics card. Nvidia's new stuff should come out in June or July with a hugely inflated price tag on top of their already increased MSRP compared to Pascal cards. I'd say get a used card for now and play with it for another year, when prices go down. At 4K medium settings, you still need a gtx 980 and R9 Fury at least to keep 60fps stable. The former cost about $200, while the latter cost about $250 and is rare. Both are faster than the 1050ti by quite a big margin, so it's clearly a no-go unless you are willing to play 1080p on a 4K monitor.

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This case has 13 140mm fan mounts. Taking the 360mm rad and 2 fans that comes with the case, you still need 8 extra 140mm fans to completely fill in all the fan mounts (10, if you want to replace the seemingly no-RGB stock fans). This is just the model I recommend because controlling fans of the same brand is much easier.

[RishiB19876]

11 hours ago, Gothic Melody said:

Hi there! I'm trying to plan to make my first custom rig, and I have ideas, but I don't know how to go about making sure the rig I've planned will do what I need it to.

 

I plan to do a lot of gaming and content creation, which is why I chose AMD over Intel. I like to stream and record my gameplay, the streaming happening on twitch, and the recordings going to YouTube {just for pleasure mostly}. But I also do a lot of digital art, both for pleasure, and to get better, since I want to get into the field of production art and animation {I'm going into college for it}. I like to play games from a lot of different genres, but my favorites are RPGs. I'm really hoping to get at least mid to hopefully high or even ultra settings in some of my favorite games like all the Fallout games, Skyrim, The Witcher 3, WoW, and Saints Row 3 & 4.

 

I also do 3D modeling, rendering, and texturing in Blender, which I need supported as well.

 

I've recently gotten into Fortnite a bit, so low to mid settings for that would be nice, but not a requirement, as I'm not super into it. I really only checked it out because I kept hearing about it everywhere and I wanted to see what all the hype was about. It's ok I guess, but it barely registers on my personal game radar.

 

I live in the USA, my max budget for the components themselves is $2,500 but would prefer to keep it closer to $2,000 so I have extra room in the budget for a good 4k, non-curved, monitor, without having to save up more.

 

The other peripherals I already have from either already ordering them, or from pre-builts I've had in the past. I currently only have a laptop, and am looking to get the rig and all its parts by the end of this year. I'm considering waiting to buy everything around Black Friday/Cyber Monday, since I heard that you can get good deals on parts around then, but I don't know.

 

This is the build I've planned so far, critiques and tweaks are very welcome!! The case I'm pretty firm on though, same with the Blu-ray drive, since I still like to watch DVDs on the computer, and I mostly have Blu-rays these days. Everything else is flexible though!

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqWC6s
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bqWC6s/by_merchant/

CPU: AMD - Threadripper 1900X 3.8GHz 8-Core Processor  ($424.65 @ OutletPC) 
CPU Cooler: Thermaltake - Floe Riing RGB 360 TT Premium Edition 42.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($175.12 @ Newegg) 
Thermal Compound: Arctic Silver - 5 High-Density Polysynthetic Silver 3.5g Thermal Paste  ($5.45 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - X399 AORUS Gaming 7 ATX TR4 Motherboard  ($339.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Team - Night Hawk RGB 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($188.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 1TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($229.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Phoenix Video Card  ($179.99 @ B&H) 
Case: Thermaltake - The Tower 900 Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case  ($219.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.99 @ B&H) 
Optical Drive: LG - WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer  ($48.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case Fan: Corsair - LL120RGB LED (Three Fans With Lighting Node PRO) 43.2 CFM  120mm Fans  ($98.21 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1946.15
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Edit: Just re-formatting to be more easily legible, nothing was added or removed.

Edit: Just emphasizing some parts that a lot of commentors keep ignoring.

Edit: Forgot to mention that I also do 3D modeling.

I feel the threadripper is unnecessary save money and go with a better graphics card that will benefit you as you game and are into content creation plus the case is COMPLETELY unnecessary go with something cheaper and maybe get a gold certified PSU as it may last longer. One extra thing i would get a 500 gb ssd and then get a HDD for ur games and other things

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Hey @Gothic Melody I feel your pain, I am also a 3D Motion Designer, and most people won't understand our pain when it comes to figuring out our key visuals by tweaking tiny things and having to sit and wait (for insert absurd amount of time here) until we are happy and can send to production render.

 

CPU is gold for us, we need to prioritize CPU over GPU (as long as a we got a decent GPU), UNLESS, you are using a GPU based rendered like Red Shift or Octane. Then yes, get a decent CPU and prioritize GPUssss, as many as possible.

 

I myself work with C4D, that's why I pay attention to Cinebench scores, and the AMD Threadripper are the best value/price you can get right now. I will be getting a 2990x when it comes out later this year, it's rumored to be around $1,500 - But you will get double the performance of the 1950x for less than double its price.

 

My current GPU is a 1050 Ti, I wanted a 1080 Ti but there wasn't any at the time and had to settle for a 1050 Ti and it works just great for me. I can work with fairly complex geometry and it stays smooth on my screen when rotating and smoothing my models.

 

If you have no need for GPU rendering go with a 1050 ti or the renewed 1080. Also, if you wanna save more money you may want to try a VEGA GPU.

 

RAM, I like the Corsairs LP, Try to find fast ram with low latency for best performance of your CPU, that way it won't bottle neck your workflow on something dumb as cheap ram. Also, I use my PC for work and very light gaming, I don't have anything RGB to save money and honestly I don't like RBG lighting anywhere. I would rather have a MAC but their systems have sucked in comparison to others for years now.

 

I hope this helps.