cpu Best Ryzen 7 CPU?

[MegaMadness]

What is the best Ryzen 7 CPU for price to performance ratio if you are streaming/video editing and gaming?

Or should I just go for something like an i5 8600k altogether?

 

Thanks.

[GoldenLag]

either the Ryzen 2600 or 2700. the x variants if you dont want to overclock. The Ryzen CPUs are better on the viewer side of things when streaming. This is due to sqedualing differences between intel and AMD. whats your budget? the 2600 is the value crown when it comes to the tasks you specified. at least according to hardware unboxed (which have been rather critical to ryzen in the past). 

 

id pick up an 2700 if you have the budget or the 2600 over the 8600k for the tasks youve specified. 

[LAwLz]

Entirely depends on what the prices looks like at the store you're ordering from.

In general, if you go with AMD you get the best deal if you buy their lowest clocked (but same amount of cores) CPU and then overclock it a bit yourself. The only real difference between let's say the 2700 and 2700X is the stock cooler and that they 2700X is slightly overclocked out of the box (most likely a bit better binned, but it shouldn't matter).

 

As for Ryzen 7 vs i5/i7... That entirely depends on prices where you are ordering from as well as what programs you will run. The i5 will most likely be cheaper but perform a bit worse than the Ryzen 7.

The i7 will perform a bit better than the Ryzen 7 but most likely cost a bit more too.

 

 

Also, I recommend you don't listen people who will give you a recommendation without asking for budget or where you are ordering from. They make suggestions based on either generalizations or assumptions.

[Nocte]

The best price to performance CPU is the Ryzen 5 1600/2600.

The best value Ryzen 7 CPU would probably be the Ryzen 7 1700/2700.

 

It really depends on what's the price difference between the new and old generation in your area.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Eibe said:

The best price to performance CPU is the Ryzen 5 1600/2600.

The best value Ryzen 7 CPU would probably be the Ryzen 7 1700/2700.

 

It really depends on what's the price difference between the new and old generation in your area.

if you are getting a 1000 series ryzen you should pick up a 400 series motherboard either way due to the better overall buildquality

[MegaMadness]

7 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Entirely depends on what the prices looks like at the store you're ordering from.

In general, if you go with AMD you get the best deal if you buy their lowest clocked (but same amount of cores) CPU and then overclock it a bit yourself. The only real difference between let's say the 2700 and 2700X is the stock cooler and that they 2700X is slightly overclocked out of the box (most likely a bit better binned, but it shouldn't matter).

 

As for Ryzen 7 vs i5/i7... That entirely depends on prices where you are ordering from as well as what programs you will run. The i5 will most likely be cheaper but perform a bit worse than the Ryzen 7.

The i7 will perform a bit better than the Ryzen 7 but most likely cost a bit more too.

 

 

Also, I recommend you don't listen people who will give you a recommendation without asking for budget or where you are ordering from. They make suggestions based on either generalizations or assumptions.

 

6 minutes ago, Eibe said:

The best price to performance CPU is the Ryzen 5 1600/2600.

The best value Ryzen 7 CPU would probably be the Ryzen 7 1700/2700.

 

It really depends on what's the price difference between the new and old generation in your area.

(USD)

Ryzen 5 1600 = $176.37

Ryzen 5 1600x = $199.49

Ryzen 5 2600 = $197.80

Ryzen 5 2600x = $223.54

 

Ryzen 7 1700 = $249.99

Ryzen 7 1700x = $279.99

Ryzen 7 1800x = $314.99

Ryzen 7 2700 = $292

Ryzen 7 2700x = $324.99

 

i5 8600k = $238.99

[GoldenLag]

4 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Ehm... [Citation Needed]

What you said makes little to no sense at all.

from a stream test video done by a wellknown youtube i dont remember the name of atm. the general thing was that the Ryzen cpu dropped fewer frames and performed better on the viewer side of things while lagging behind in overall framerate by around 10 fps depending on the game (as ryzen usually does). the same guy also mentioned that if you tried both pc`s while streaming you probably wouldnt note much of a difference.  that was the overall gest of the video. 

[Taf the Ghost]

10 minutes ago, MegaMadness said:

What is the best Ryzen 7 CPU for price to performance ratio if you are streaming/video editing and gaming?

Or should I just go for something like an i5 8600k altogether?

 

Thanks.

The question depends on how much work you want to put into things? There's all of a ~25USD price difference between the 2700 & 2700X. While OC'ing Ryzen is pretty straight forward, the price delta is small enough (and the in-box cooler better enough) that it might just be best to get the 2700X for most users. If you're planning to stream & do video editing, the 2c & 8t extra will put the Ryzen 7s as a much better buy than the i5-8600k.

[LAwLz]

3 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

The Ryzen CPUs are better on the viewer side of things when streaming. This is due to sqedualing differences between intel and AMD.

[Citation Needed]

What you said makes little to no sense.

 

 

Just now, GoldenLag said:

if you are getting a 1000 series ryzen you should pick up a 400 series motherboard either way due to the better overall buildquality

[Citation Needed] on that the 400 series of motherboards has on average better build quality (what is that measuring anyway?) than 300 series boards.

From what I know, X470 is just a minor update to X370 with for example wider memory support. Not that they introduced stricter standards for the motherboards using the chipsets.

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, LAwLz said:

[Citation Needed] on that the 400 series of motherboards has on average better build quality (what is that measuring anyway?) than 300 series boards.

From what I know, X470 is just a minor update to X370 with for example wider memory support. Not that they introduced stricter standards for the motherboards using the chipsets.

this only from what ive heard from people talking about the X470 boards. it usually goes as follows: the X470 have better build quality due to more effort has put into design than the X370. This is due to sceptisism among manfuctorers when Ryzen launched. The Vrm and power delivery is suposedly better than the X370 boards in general to better suite future generations of Ryzen. i sadly dont have sources for this atm

[MegaMadness]

18 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Entirely depends on what the prices looks like at the store you're ordering from.

In general, if you go with AMD you get the best deal if you buy their lowest clocked (but same amount of cores) CPU and then overclock it a bit yourself. The only real difference between let's say the 2700 and 2700X is the stock cooler and that they 2700X is slightly overclocked out of the box (most likely a bit better binned, but it shouldn't matter).

 

As for Ryzen 7 vs i5/i7... That entirely depends on prices where you are ordering from as well as what programs you will run. The i5 will most likely be cheaper but perform a bit worse than the Ryzen 7.

The i7 will perform a bit better than the Ryzen 7 but most likely cost a bit more too.

 

 

Also, I recommend you don't listen people who will give you a recommendation without asking for budget or where you are ordering from. They make suggestions based on either generalizations or assumptions.

Alright, so what CPU do you recommend me? I don't have a set budget but I would like to spend as little as possible while getting as much performance as possible. 2700 and 2700x is a bit on the expensive side so unless you really think I should get it I would prefer something cheaper. I also heard that there is barely any noticeable difference between the 2700x and the 1700. Is that true?

[GoldenLag]

10 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

[Citation Needed]

What you said makes little to no sense.

https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3288-amd-r5-2600-2600x-review-stream-benchmarks-gaming-blender/page-2

 

where ive gathered my info for my claims. 

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Moving on to the viewer-side chart, here’s where those numbers manifest: AMD’s 30% drop for streamer-side performance proves a worthwhile sacrifice, because it’s able to successfully encode 100% of frames for the stream. The 8600K completely crumbles when under the load of even Faster settings for encoding. You could get this to work, but it’d require dropping the encoding quality further and tuning some affinities and priorities. Even at our reasonable, realistic quality of Faster and 10Mbps, the 8600K struggles to keep up when left stock and untuned.

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Now, as for how useful this is, that depends. What you’re seeing on the screen right now is a video playback of both streams at 10Mbps. This is about the quality we stream to YouTube when we’re being conservative, and the 6C 8600K has a hard time with managing both the stream and the game. Again, capping the game and prioritizing resources would help, but the 2600Xdoesn’t require that treatment. It’s good to go out of box. The 2600X has substantially more headroom to sustain a higher quality stream with PUBG. Both are capable of streaming, it just depends on how much quality you want and how much you want to be under the hood to work on the 8600K.

hope you find this helpfull

[GoldenLag]

3 minutes ago, MegaMadness said:

Alright, so what CPU do you recommend me? I don't have a set budget but I would like to spend as little as possible while getting as much performance as possible. 2700 and 2700x is a bit on the expensive side so unless you really think I should get it I would prefer something cheaper. I also heard that there is barely any noticeable difference between the 2700x and the 1700. Is that true?

2700x will perform better in Games than the 1700. in multithreaded and singlethreaded. if i were you adn since you are considering to save some money i would pick up the 2600 and overclock it. (remember to pick up a good board before overclocking as i myself is mobo limited in overclocking

[Nocte]

2 hours ago, MegaMadness said:

Alright, so what CPU do you recommend me? I don't have a set budget but I would like to spend as little as possible while getting as much performance as possible. 2700 and 2700x is a bit on the expensive side so unless you really think I should get it I would prefer something cheaper. I also heard that there is barely any noticeable difference between the 2700x and the 1700. Is that true?

I would go with the 2600X or 2700 if you can afford the price jump.

I'm not going to recommend the 2600 because it has a Wraith Stealth, which has a much smaller heatsink than the 2600X's Wraith Spire.

 

If you can get the 2700 you get 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads, which would come in handy for streaming etc. But the 2600X is more than capable to do streaming and gaming.

[Princess Luna]

Ryzen 7 2700 or i7 8700 builds.

[Taf the Ghost]

13 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

2700x will perform better in Games than the 1700. in multithreaded and singlethreaded. if i were you adn since you are considering to save some money i would pick up the 2600 and overclock it. (remember to pick up a good board before overclocking as i myself is mobo limited in overclocking

2600[X] wouldn't have any overclocking issues on any X470 board.

19 minutes ago, MegaMadness said:

Alright, so what CPU do you recommend me? I don't have a set budget but I would like to spend as little as possible while getting as much performance as possible. 2700 and 2700x is a bit on the expensive side so unless you really think I should get it I would prefer something cheaper. I also heard that there is barely any noticeable difference between the 2700x and the 1700. Is that true?

2700X would have a noticeable performance uplift over the 1700 at stock. Depending on what you're up to, there could be around 15-20% better performance on the 2700X. Some 1700's could OC to 4.0 Ghz with tight memory timings, but those were rarer cases. There's some really good 1700s out there, but most weren't quite that good. Thus, there's a good amount of extra Clocks available in the 2700X.

 

If you're doing video editing/encoding, the extra 2c will really speed things up. Streaming should be better, as well, but that always requires some fiddling with settings. What GPU are you thinking about?

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, Taf the Ghost said:

2600[X] wouldn't have any overclocking issues on any X470 board

i just wanted to say that to avoid him picking up a b350 board or similar.

[MegaMadness]

49 minutes ago, Eibe said:

I would go with the 2600X or 2700 if you can afford the price jump.

I'm not going to recommend the 2600 because it has a Wraith Stealth, which has a much smaller heatsink than the 2600X's Wraith Spire.

 

If you can get the 2700 you get 2 extra cores and 4 extra thres, which would come in handy for streaming etc. But the 2600X is more than capable to do streaming and gaming.

So you would recommend I go with the 2600X rather than the 1700?

[Nocte]

4 minutes ago, MegaMadness said:

So you would recommend I go with the 2600X rather than the 1700?

If you do not want to overclock yes. Definitely.

If you are going to overclock it depends and probably the 1700 would be a better bang for the buck.

 

I would still go with the 2600X over the 1700, even if I was a casual streamer, but if I was a serious streamer I would spend more and go with the 2700.

[MegaMadness]

3 minutes ago, Eibe said:

If you do not want to overclock yes. Definitely.

If you are going to overclock it depends and probably the 1700 would be a better bang for the buck.

 

I would still go with the 2600X over the 1700, even if I was a casual streamer, but if I was a serious streamer I would spend more and go with the 2700.

I'm a casual streamer who overclocks. What do I do?

[MegaMadness]

56 minutes ago, Taf the Ghost said:

2600[X] wouldn't have any overclocking issues on any X470 board.

2700X would have a noticeable performance uplift over the 1700 at stock. Depending on what you're up to, there could be around 15-20% better performance on the 2700X. Some 1700's could OC to 4.0 Ghz with tight memory timings, but those were rarer cases. There's some really good 1700s out there, but most weren't quite that good. Thus, there's a good amount of extra Clocks available in the 2700X.

 

If you're doing video editing/encoding, the extra 2c will really speed things up. Streaming should be better, as well, but that always requires some fiddling with settings. What GPU are you thinking about?

I said above I am getting the 1070 TI.  

[Nocte]

3 minutes ago, MegaMadness said:

I'm a casual streamer who overclocks. What do I do?

I casually stream as well with a Ryzen 5 1600 at 3.6GHz and I am perfectly haply with it.

 

The 2600X at stock clocks is going to be even better than mine. I'd recommend you the 2600X and try to get as much juice out of it as you can . Or maybe the 2600 + after marke cooler to overclock.

[MegaMadness]

2 minutes ago, Eibe said:

I casually stream as well with a Ryzen 5 1600 at 3.6GHz and I am perfectly haply with it.

 

The 2600X at stock clocks is going to be even better than mine. I'd recommend you the 2600X and try to get as much juice out of it as you can . Or maybe the 2600 + after marke cooler to overclock.

Alrighty thanks bro! Any motherboard you recommend? I'm looking at the Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming.

[samcool55]

1 minute ago, MegaMadness said:

Alrighty thanks bro! Any motherboard you recommend? I'm looking at the Gigabyte X470 Ultra Gaming.

I'm not a fan of gigabyte but that board physically is solid AF.

Don't know about the BIOS but it has basically everything you need and you can OC without any worries.

[Taf the Ghost]

5 minutes ago, MegaMadness said:

I said above I am getting the 1070 TI.  

Unless you deleted it, it doesn't show in the thread. 

 

As for the Ryzen SKUs, getting your memory timings as good as possible is the real key. There's a lot more room to fiddle with the Memory timings than the Clock OC.