LTT Video Inaccuracy: Vivo did not develop the underscreen fingerprint reader.

[avg123]

The sensor is developed by Synaptics.  So no phone manufacturer managed to develop the sensor. Vivo just put the sensor inside their phone. Any phone manufacturer can do that. The sensor was ready well after iPhone X was launched, so Apple could not put it in their phones anyway.

[D13H4RD]

I think what they meant is that Vivo was the first to put the sensor in an actual phone that consumers can buy.

 

It won’t be the last we’ll see because there’s already a limited-run Huawei that has the in-display sensor as well

[AskTJ]

Linus stated that it was the first consumer available phone for purchase, not just a concept.

 

It is at an affordable price, of $549 USD.

 

Somewhere in the mid range.

[avg123]

5 minutes ago, tj_420 said:

Linus stated that it was the first consumer available phone for purchase, not just a concept.

 

It is at an affordable price, of $549 USD.

 

Somewhere in the mid range.

You can get a Oneplus 6 at that price. Who in their right mind would buy a phone with shit camera and Snapdragon 660 over the Oneplus 6 just for a (slow) underscreen fingerprint reader?

[D13H4RD]

24 minutes ago, avg123 said:

You can get a Oneplus 6 at that price. Who in their right mind would buy a phone with shit camera and Snapdragon 660 over the Oneplus 6 just for a (slow) underscreen fingerprint reader?

It actually kinda is a OnePlus 6, just with a slightly lower-tier processor and weaker camera. 

 

Vivo and OnePlus are practically the same company. The shell you’re seeing is the same shell that will be used in the OnePlus 6

[avg123]

11 minutes ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

It actually kinda is a OnePlus 6, just with a slightly lower-tier processor and weaker camera. 

 

Vivo and OnePlus are practically the same company. The shell you’re seeing is the same shell that will be used in the OnePlus 6

There is a big difference between the 660 and the 845. The 845 is nearly twice as fast! There are phones at around $300 that has 660s now!

[AskTJ]

37 minutes ago, avg123 said:

You can get a Oneplus 6 at that price. Who in their right mind would buy a phone with shit camera and Snapdragon 660 over the Oneplus 6 just for a (slow) underscreen fingerprint reader?

It is new technology that had never been available to consumers. Now it is and manufactures' will be looking to implement it in their phone. To answer your question, its the first phone to be available to buy. Not the first phone ti feature it. Maybe if you listened to the video a bit more you would've understood that.

[avg123]

1 minute ago, tj_420 said:

It is new technology that had never been available to consumers. Now it is and manufactures' will be looking to implement it in their phone. To answer your question, its the first phone to be available to buy. Not the first phone ti feature it. Maybe if you listened to the video a bit more you would've understood that.

No Linus said "How did Vivo manage to develop this while apple couldnt" in the video.

Well Vivo did not manage to develop that. Synaptics did.

 

Maybe you should listen to the video first.

 

[AskTJ]

5 hours ago, avg123 said:

No Linus said "How did Vivo manage to develop this while apple couldnt" in the video.

Well Vivo did not manage to develop that. Synaptics did.

 

Maybe you should listen to the video first.

 

Your question mentions NOTHING about apple.

 

Yes, synaptic developed the sensor. Not Vivo.

 

Vivo was the first brand to release it in a publically available phone.

[avg123]

5 hours ago, tj_420 said:

Your question mentions NOTHING about apple.

My OP clearly mentions Apple.

 

5 hours ago, tj_420 said:

Yes, synaptic developed the sensor. Not Vivo.

 

Vivo was the first brand to release it in a publically available phone.

That is what I am saying. You dont get extra credit for that. If not Vivo, somebody other manufacturer would. 

 

Vivo is just putting someone else's technology in its phone.

What R&D did Vivo do to develop that technology? Nothing. Vivo just pust the sensor in a $400 specced phone and selling it for $550

 

 

And that technology was not developed when the iPhone X was launched. So Apple could not have put it in their phone even if they tried.

[D13H4RD]

18 minutes ago, avg123 said:

There is a big difference between the 660 and the 845. The 845 is nearly twice as fast! There are phones at around $300 that has 660s now!

At least they didn’t put a 625 in it and charge the same price.

 

I doubt anyone who buys a Vivo cares what processor is in it. They just see the phone and buy it because they think it’s cool.

 

I mean, a lot of the mainstream phone users don’t know much about the exact processor powering their phone. Many S8 users I met don’t know what an SD835 or E8895 is and many iPhone X owners I’ve met also don’t know what’s an A11 Bionic. 

 

Don’t get me wrong, I don’t think it’s good value but at the same time, this phone will sell either way. I would personally buy a Nokia 7 Plus over this. Lower price, similar specs (minus RAM and storage plus an LCD vs OLED) and doesn’t have ass software with much more frequent updates.

[LinusTech]

Of course the sensor is made by Synaptics - we covered this in our video about the prototype for this phone back at CES. 

 

It does take development to integrate a new technology into a real product though. 

[Sniperfox47]

10 hours ago, LinusTech said:

Of course the sensor is made by Synaptics - we covered this in our video about the prototype for this phone back at CES. 

 

It does take development to integrate a new technology into a real product though. 

@avg123 this. Afterall Qualcomm has had an underscreen fingerprint tech for what? A year and a half now? And nobody's yet been able to integrate it into a consumer device with an available panel.