PSU for budget PC.

[mrchow19910319]

Could you guys recommend some budget friendly PSU that wont blow up your PC? 

 

Planning system build:  

 

i3 8100

8GB of RAM

1TB HDD

1 250GB SSD

1 PCIE wifi card

 

I cannot find corsair CX series on local website. 

So is there any other PSU I should consider? 

[NTDaws]

Seasonic s12

[iamdarkyoshi]

No graphics card? Just nab a power supply from a dell or HP consumer PC. They're cheap, safe, and reliable. They'll be more than enough, even if you later decide to throw in a 1050

[mrchow19910319]

1 minute ago, iamdarkyoshi said:

No graphics card? Just nab a power supply from a dell or HP consumer PC. They're cheap, safe, and reliable. They'll be more than enough, even if you later decide to throw in a 1050

i dont have my hands on those.... 

[mrchow19910319]

4 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Seasonic s12

so this one should be ok???

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

[NTDaws]

Just now, mrchow19910319 said:

so this one should be ok???

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

Yes, but if you can a tad higher wattage can help in the future. Otherwise it's good.

[iamdarkyoshi]

1 minute ago, Being Delirious said:

Yes, but if you can a tad higher wattage can help in the future. Otherwise it's good.

Even 430w is overkill for that. I'd be comfortable with that power supply with OP's rig and a GTX 1070

[seon123]

7 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Seasonic s12

That's just an ancient and overpriced PSU with lacking protections. 

 

3 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

so this one should be ok???

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

No. Don't get the S12. What options do you have available?

[NTDaws]

3 minutes ago, seon123 said:

That's just an ancient and overpriced PSU with lacking protections. 

 

No. Don't get the S12. What options do you have available?

S12 has been recommended in the community a long time.

[seon123]

1 minute ago, Being Delirious said:

S12 has been recommended in the community a long time.

Doesn't mean it's worth buying. 

 

[mrchow19910319]

7 minutes ago, seon123 said:

That's just an ancient and overpriced PSU with lacking protections. 

 

No. Don't get the S12. What options do you have available?

almost all the major brands are available here. but you just have to tell me what specific model I should get

 

EVGA corsair (no cx series) coolermaster superflower.

 

[mrchow19910319]

13 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Doesn't mean it's worth buying. 

 

cooler master MWE bronze 500?

masterwatt lite 500? 

 

[Stefan Payne]

24 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Seasonic s12

Oh god, no.

That thing is almost 10 Years old without any useful refresh.

19 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

so this one should be ok???

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

No, you should rather not buy that.

Its loud, group regulated and has many protections lacking...

Its essentially a lowest cost unit with a bit of Lipstick on.

 

 

And Group regulated units aren't the best idea since Haswell because newer power saving things stress the PSU more and group regulated units will go out of spec under those circumstances.

 

18 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

Yes, but if you can a tad higher wattage can help in the future. Otherwise it's good.

No, he can go better, not higher.

Quality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quantity.

 

If his system only uses 250W then the best 300W PSU is the best Idea.

But since the good stuff starts at 400-450W, thats where he has to start.

 

 

And the first thing to do would be getting a PSU that regulates +5V independently from +12V and does not need any load on any rail (as long as one of the three major rails is loaded, it doesn't matter wich one).

 

12 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

S12 has been recommended in the community a long time.

Because the unit is so old...

And being old does not make it good, PSU ain't no wine, they become obsolete over time get from Decent/OKish to garbage.

 

6 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

almost all the major brands are available here. but you just have to tell me what specific model I should get

 

EVGA corsair (no cx series) coolermaster superflower.

 

How about Bitfenix or Cougar?

 

How much money do you want to spend??

[mrchow19910319]

6 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

How about Bitfenix or Cougar?

 

How much money do you want to spend??

here in aisa 

cooler master MWE bronze 550 cost 58 dollar (us) roughly

so anything below that is okay. 

 

those brands cannot be found. 

 

[Stefan Payne]

Just now, mrchow19910319 said:

here in aisa 

cooler master MWE bronze 550 cost 58 dollar (us) roughly

so anything below that is okay. 

 

those brands cannot be found. 

 

Be quiet Pure Power 10, 400 or 500W??

Or System Power 9, 400W and up as well.

[STRMfrmXMN]

26 minutes ago, Being Delirious said:

S12 has been recommended in the community a long time.

Dude, even I stopped recommending it shortly after the newer revisions of the CX came out. The S12 was produced when I was in elementary school...

 

33 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

so this one should be ok???

 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151074

No, find a modern unit that isn't group-regulated to start with. The Focus Gold or Bitfenix Formula are better picks for not much more money,

 

Just now, mrchow19910319 said:

here in aisa 

cooler master MWE bronze 550 cost 58 dollar (us) roughly

so anything below that is okay. 

 

those brands cannot be found. 

 

You're not really going to find anything good under $58 USD most of the time if you have to toss the CX. This isn't bad though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Qb8j4D/seasonic-focus-gold-450w-80-gold-certified-semi-modular-atx-power-supply-ssr-450fm

[iamdarkyoshi]

8 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

That thing is almost 10 Years old

Whats wrong with old power supplies? My truepower quattro still runs three videocards without complaints. And it was BOUGHT 10 years ago, its got plenty of miles on it

[mrchow19910319]

@STRMfrmXMN @Stefan Payne 

 

okay how about one tier better than corsair CX or the seasonic I picked. 

 

any unit that is good from superflower/seasonic/EVGA/cooler master? 

[Stefan Payne]

Just now, iamdarkyoshi said:

Whats wrong with old power supplies?

Depends on what we are talking about.

If we are talking about a high end Server/Workstation Design with like 4 Caps parallel on +12V or more or a low cost, group regulated unit with just an CLC Filter.

 

The point is that things change and what the PSU has to do as well.

 

10 Years ago we just had rather rudimentary power saving mechanisms for the CPU, graphics cards were either just introduced or just not there. They dindn't really have any good power saving features.

 

In the last 5 years or so, the power saving meachanisms became more agressive and thus the stress the PSU had to endure increased a lot.

And today some GPUs have peaks of 40-50A for only a couple of ms.

Just now, iamdarkyoshi said:

My truepower quattro still runs three videocards without complaints. And it was BOUGHT 10 years ago, its got plenty of miles on it

Yeah, but that is a high end/Server Design.

The worst one of the bunch (850 + 1000W) has double mag Amp design, so is independently regulated and has a couple of caps in parallel. Can't really say for sure because the pictures I could find on the Internet aren't great.

 

The 1200W is really intresting because it already has DC-DC and also a couple of capacitors on +12V (I think its like 4 or 5 on +12V) and also some Polymer Capacitors.

 

 

That's a totally different thing than a cheapish, group regulated design from 10 Years ago.

None of the TPQ were designed/made to be cheap or probably even sold to consumers.

[Stefan Payne]

5 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

@STRMfrmXMN @Stefan Payne 

 

okay how about one tier better than corsair CX or the seasonic I picked. 

 

any unit that is good from superflower/seasonic/EVGA/cooler master? 

Cooler Master V-Series.

Super Flower Leadex

Focus from Seasonic

 

In that order I'd look.

EVGA I don't like because even people like me who are interested in PSU Stuff have no idea what they are doing and if most of their lineup is OK or not.

[seon123]

35 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

almost all the major brands are available here. but you just have to tell me what specific model I should get

 

EVGA corsair (no cx series) coolermaster superflower.

 

EVGA doesn't really have any decent budget units. Corsair Vengeance? The Masterwatt (not MWE or Lite) is alright. The Leadex silver is sometimes available at okay prices. 

How about the Pure Power 10 400W?

[mrchow19910319]

4 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Cooler Master V-Series.

Super Flower Leadex

Focus from Seasonic

 

In that order I'd look.

EVGA I don't like because even people like me who are interested in PSU Stuff have no idea what they are doing and if most of their lineup is OK or not.

cooler master V550 is an okay choice? 

[STRMfrmXMN]

3 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

cooler master V550 is an okay choice? 

Yes

[Stefan Payne]

16 minutes ago, mrchow19910319 said:

cooler master V550 is an okay choice? 

Yes, that's a good choice!

[NTDaws]

7 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Oh god, no.

That thing is almost 10 Years old without any useful refresh.

No, you should rather not buy that.

Its loud, group regulated and has many protections lacking...

Its essentially a lowest cost unit with a bit of Lipstick on.

 

 

And Group regulated units aren't the best idea since Haswell because newer power saving things stress the PSU more and group regulated units will go out of spec under those circumstances.

 

No, he can go better, not higher.

Quality >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quantity.

 

If his system only uses 250W then the best 300W PSU is the best Idea.

But since the good stuff starts at 400-450W, thats where he has to start.

 

 

And the first thing to do would be getting a PSU that regulates +5V independently from +12V and does not need any load on any rail (as long as one of the three major rails is loaded, it doesn't matter wich one).

 

Because the unit is so old...

And being old does not make it good, PSU ain't no wine, they become obsolete over time get from Decent/OKish to garbage.

 

How about Bitfenix or Cougar?

 

How much money do you want to spend??

Still a good PSU to this day.