Gaming Laptop

[xclute]

I want to get a gaming laptop and my budget is 800$ what laptop should I get.

[Sacriledgy]

4 minutes ago, xclute said:

I want to get a gaming laptop and my budget is 800$ what laptop should I get.

 

[Techstorm970]

28 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

 

I know my signature says "Dell Hater", but I have to say that this one is a good option.  Although, it's not the only one...

 

http://www.microcenter.com/product/481349/GL62M_156_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black (MSI GL62M: i7-7700HQ, GTX 1050, $800)

http://www.microcenter.com/product/488504/OMEN_15-ax256nr_156_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_Refurbished_-_Black (HP OMEN:  i7-7700HQ, GTX 1050, Refurbished, $700)

http://www.microcenter.com/product/481563/Nitro_5_AN515-51-56U0_156_Gaming_Laptop_Computer_-_Black (Acer Nitro 5: i5-7300HQ, GTX 1050, $700)

[genexis_x]

Dell 7567/7577

Lenovo Y520

Acer VX15

Acer V Nitro, Aspire 7 - needs repaste

Clevo N850HK1 - needs repaste

HP Omen 15, Acer Nitro 5 - OKish cooling

 

Avoid MSI GV/GL/GP and Asus FX/GL, mediocre build quality and cooling.

[Sacriledgy]

52 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Dell 7567/7577

Lenovo Y520

Acer VX15

Acer V Nitro, Aspire 7 - needs repaste

Clevo N850HK1 - needs repaste

HP Omen 15, Acer Nitro 5 - OKish cooling

 

Avoid MSI GV/GL/GP and Asus FX/GL, mediocre build quality and cooling.

The brand new Asus GL503VD (i7 7700 & GTX 1060 6GB) actually has good cooling and build quality, which i tried last weekend. Thinking of picking that up since the GTX 1070 version of Asus ROG Zephyrus GX501VS is like $800 out of my budget lol

[genexis_x]

13 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

good cooling

Yes inner temps are in check but, high fan noise and high surface temps under load? Sorry but there are better choices.

[Sacriledgy]

14 minutes ago, ZM Fong said:

Yes inner temps are in check but, high fan noise and high surface temps under load? Sorry but there are better choices.

Like i said, exactly normal. Surface temps right on top of the CPU & GPU is like 35°C with their temps kept between 70-76°C. Noise is fine, nothing too crazy. Just like any other Gaming Laptop. Have you actually try them in person? (The GL503VD, its just been released)

 

There are better options but they are either too heavy, looks tacky & cheap, or just too expensive

[genexis_x]

20 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

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Are you an Asus fanboy? Is yes then I don't want to argue with you. I never tried them in hand but from reviews with in depth analysis, GL503 is pretty mediocre in terms of cooling. Build quality has improved compared to previous model but still can't match its price. Most ROG laptops have spongy keyboard despite long key travel which ruins the typing/gaming experience. And yet Asus ROG laptops are usually slightly overpriced. Yes they are quite thin and light but there's a thing called thermodynamics. Powerful components and thin chassis just can't fit together. I rather get a slightly heavier laptop with better cooling. Try other models first before making a conclusion that it's good.

[D13H4RD]

45 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

 

There are better options but they are either too heavy, looks tacky & cheap, or just too expensive

I think you mean the GL503VM. The VD has a GTX 1050 if I am not mistaken.

 

I own its predecessor, the GL502VM, with the same GPU and CPU (GTX 1060 6GB and Core i7 7700HQ).

 

I can vouch what @ZM Fong said. The laptop doesn’t thermal throttle under load but it gets very musical. The cooling system on the GL503 is definitely better than the GL502VM but it’s not as good as some others. The MSI GE series cools better alongside some boutique options. Adding to its woes is the frankly terrible thermal paste application, which is just merely functional.

 

If that is literally your only choice, then I can give a slim recommendation only on the condition that you open it up and apply good thermal compound like Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut (Conductonaut works better but it is much riskier to apply) alongside some thermal pads. 

 

Avoid the GL-VS like the plague. Even with the improved cooling system, ASUS’s thermal paste application alongside other things does it absolutely zero favors. Conductonaut would help but I would not recommend it if you have no experience applying liquid metal thermal compound 

[Sacriledgy]

2 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

Are you an Asus fanboy? Is yes then I don't want to argue with you. I never tried them in hand but from reviews with in depth analysis, GL503 is pretty mediocre in terms of cooling. Build quality has improved compared to previous model but still can't match its price. Most ROG laptops have spongy keyboard despite long key travel which ruins the typing/gaming experience. And yet Asus ROG laptops are usually slightly overpriced. Yes they are quite thin and light but there's a thing called thermodynamics. Powerful components and thin chassis just can't fit together. I rather get a slightly heavier laptop with better cooling. Try other models first before making a conclusion that it's good.

No no no, why would i be a fanboy? I'm just saying what i experienced while trying out those laptops on my friends house last week. Chill out man.

 

Clearly, i haven't tried any of that Laptop you mentioned, so i can't say anything about them. What i said is the experience that i get. You said something, and then i reply because what i get isn't the same as what you said.

 

I said that i liked Asus design because i like how they look (design is an important part of buying any Laptop). Because honestly, i can't bring any MSI/Alienware or anything that has a gamery look on my meeting with clients and lecturers. Nobody will take me seriously and it might gave them the wrong impression. I also need something both powerful and portable for my gaming and mobile need.

 

Stop jumping to conclusions, relax. Why being so worked out because someone doesn't agree with you? Maybe you hate Asus? idk man. 

[Sacriledgy]

1 hour ago, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

I think you mean the GL503VM. The VD has a GTX 1050 if I am not mistaken.

 

I own its predecessor, the GL502VM, with the same GPU and CPU (GTX 1060 6GB and Core i7 7700HQ).

 

I can vouch what @ZM Fong said. The laptop doesn’t thermal throttle under load but it gets very musical. The cooling system on the GL503 is definitely better than the GL502VM but it’s not as good as some others. The MSI GE series cools better alongside some boutique options. Adding to its woes is the frankly terrible thermal paste application, which is just merely functional.

 

If that is literally your only choice, then I can give a slim recommendation only on the condition that you open it up and apply good thermal compound like Thermal Grizzly Kyronaut (Conductonaut works better but it is much riskier to apply) alongside some thermal pads. 

 

Avoid the GL-VS like the plague. Even with the improved cooling system, ASUS’s thermal paste application alongside other things does it absolutely zero favors. Conductonaut would help but I would not recommend it if you have no experience applying liquid metal thermal compound 

Its not firm yet, I'm trying to look out for another Laptop too.

 

My main need is that i need something subtle looking, portable, and pretty powerful. Products like Razer Blade and Asus Zephyrus GX501VS would be ideal, but they are kinda out if my budget (like $800 out of my budget, my country has a heavy electronic import tax). Any other suggestion?

[genexis_x]

5 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

Razer Blade and Asus Zephyrus GX501VS would be ideal

No. They are toaster. Razer laptops have poor quality too, plus poor customer support

12 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

i like how they look (design is an important part of buying any Laptop)

I strongly disagree here. I don't care about the design, as long as the important aspects (build quality for example) are good, I'll go for it. Some ppl do care about design so...it's up to you

13 minutes ago, Its Not Important said:

powerful and portable

Again:

2 hours ago, ZM Fong said:

Yes they are quite thin and light but there's a thing called thermodynamics. Powerful components and thin chassis just can't fit together. I rather get a slightly heavier laptop with better cooling.

Powerful GPU inside thin chassis will only cause high surface temps and high fan noise. To keep inner temps under control, a good cooling solution is a must. For instance: GE Raider series laptops do a great job here, GL-VS is horrible.

[Sacriledgy]

Just now, ZM Fong said:

I strongly disagree here. I don't care about the design, as long as the important aspects (build quality for example) are good, I'll go for it. Some ppl do care about design so...it's up to you

Again:

Powerful GPU inside thin chassis will only cause high surface temps and high fan noise. To keep inner temps under control, a good cooling solution is a must. For instance: GE Raider series laptops do a great job here, GL-VS is horrible.

Well, that's what i need. I don't want to walk around with my MSI GR63-7RC Raider that's 2" thick and weigh 5KG between class and office. Or my HP Omen 15 that makes me look like I'm attending my first CSGO LAN party. I don't want to look like that retarded gamer douche that carry his expensive and thick & heavy PC around. 

 

If you don't have the input that i needed then stop wasting my time telling how horrible my choices are. I need that kind of design. We Laptop buyers know that there has got to be some trade off to get what we need, we don't need to be rubbed in with that. 

 

What about actually giving me a sleek looking Laptop under $2000 with at least GTX 1060? Sound good yeah?

[TheDankKoosh]

18 hours ago, Its Not Important said:

Well, that's what i need. I don't want to walk around with my MSI GR63-7RC Raider that's 2" thick and weigh 5KG between class and office. Or my HP Omen 15 that makes me look like I'm attending my first CSGO LAN party. I don't want to look like that retarded gamer douche that carry his expensive and thick & heavy PC around. 

 

If you don't have the input that i needed then stop wasting my time telling how horrible my choices are. I need that kind of design. We Laptop buyers know that there has got to be some trade off to get what we need, we don't need to be rubbed in with that. 

 

What about actually giving me a sleek looking Laptop under $2000 with at least GTX 1060? Sound good yeah?

You don't have to be so hostile to him, he is one of the more knowledgeable on notebooks on the forum and is only listing the various problems with the laptops that you've listed off. The razer blade is an especially terrible product and most of ASUS's current lineup is mediocre at best. Don't begin to think form will ever be more important than function or you may as well get a Macbook pro and then complain when your cpu throttles down to 1ghz after reaching 105c along with the mediocre gpu. Performance laptops come at the price of being a fair bit more bulky than what you are asking for, unless you want a badly designed product. 

 

This would probably fit the bill better than most other laptops unless you want something more expensive and less powerful.

http://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-p650hs-g-15-6-custom-built-gaming-laptop-w-nvidia-gtx-1070-w-g-sync.html

[Imglidinhere]

20 hours ago, Its Not Important said:

Well, that's what i need. I don't want to walk around with my MSI GR63-7RC Raider that's 2" thick and weigh 5KG between class and office. Or my HP Omen 15 that makes me look like I'm attending my first CSGO LAN party. I don't want to look like that retarded gamer douche that carry his expensive and thick & heavy PC around. 

 

If you don't have the input that i needed then stop wasting my time telling how horrible my choices are. I need that kind of design. We Laptop buyers know that there has got to be some trade off to get what we need, we don't need to be rubbed in with that. 

 

What about actually giving me a sleek looking Laptop under $2000 with at least GTX 1060? Sound good yeah?

 

Unless you want to spend about double what these options cost, you're going to have to legitimately take a few hits to what you want in the laptop. Furthermore, you're not even the original guy asking about laptops... which seems a little silly when you openly go out and act this hostile toward people taking their time to inform you of potential flaws in certain laptops. If you hate what people say, then you don't HAVE to listen or read anything, you can go buy your laptop that YOU want and just go with it. No machine is perfect. Every laptop has a flaw.

 

For $1600 you can snag a powerhouse of a laptop that still nets reasonable battery life and has a 1060 and an SSD. No questions asked. It'd be from any of the Clevo retailers, so you'd get a Function-over-Form laptop that's moderately bulky, but it's not going to be 3-4" thick like most machines used to be. At least the cooling will be adequate enough that you don't HAVE to immediately open it up and repaste.

 

1 hour ago, TheDankKoosh said:

You don't have to be so hostile to him, he is one of the more knowledgeable on notebooks on the forum and is only listing the various problems with the laptops that you've listed off. The razer blade is an especially terrible product and most of ASUS's current lineup is mediocre at best. Don't begin to think form will ever be more important than function or you may as well get a Macbook pro and then complain when your cpu throttles down to 1ghz after reaching 105c along with the mediocre gpu. Performance laptops come at the price of being a fair bit more bulky than what you are asking for, unless you want a badly designed product. 

 

This would probably fit the bill better than most other laptops unless you want something more expensive and less powerful.

http://www.hidevolution.com/evoc-p650hs-g-15-6-custom-built-gaming-laptop-w-nvidia-gtx-1070-w-g-sync.html

The only issue with this laptop is that it has G-sync. You don't get battery life if you want a G-sync machine. Again, every laptop has a flaw, you just have to deal with what you get. It's why I opted for the 7559 personally. It wasn't flashy, it wasn't lightning quick, but it had the specs for a price that made my jaw drop every time I looked at it. Nothing came close until months later, or had glaring flaws that made any other choice just a bad idea.

 

Two years later? Yeah I can see how potentially saving up and having grabbed a 970M or at least a 965M might've been a good choice... given how the core GPU used (750 Ti) was released back in 2013... so... 5 years later and two years since the original purchase date? Any GPU would be showing its age. But battery life hasn't suffered, I've since swapped out the WiFi module to the AC8260, swapped the main panel for a higher quality, higher brightness LG IPS option, and temps are still doing fine even after gaming pretty much every day.

 

I was a Dell Hater myself before I saw this machine and the reviews about it. It's been good to me. My faith in Dell has been restored.  

[genexis_x]

13 minutes ago, Imglidinhere said:

If you hate what people say, then you don't HAVE to listen or read anything, you can go buy your laptop that YOU want and just go with it. No machine is perfect. Every laptop has a flaw.

Absolutely correct.

[D13H4RD]

20 hours ago, Its Not Important said:

If you don't have the input that i needed then stop wasting my time telling how horrible my choices are. I need that kind of design. We Laptop buyers know that there has got to be some trade off to get what we need, we don't need to be rubbed in with that. 

 

What about actually giving me a sleek looking Laptop under $2000 with at least GTX 1060? Sound good yeah?

Calm down man. Nobody is saying you're buying a bad laptop. We're just telling you the potential tradeoffs of having a thin and light machine housing some beefy components. 

 

My GL502VM is pretty thin especially for a laptop with a GTX 1060 which has a 75 watt TDP (lower than the GTX 970M it replaces) but on a machine that's around the size of mine, it's sorta pushing the limits, at least with the stock thermal application. I reckon if I re-paste it with Kyronaut, I can see temperature drops of at least 7 degrees from its peak or more. Going to a higher TDP GPU like a GTX 1070 is pretty much asking for trouble on such a sleek machine unless you open it up and re-paste it. Some laptops like the GE Apache and Raider have beefy cooling setups despite their sleek profile, however. 

 

It's always a trade off between portability and performance. I would highly recommend shopping around as much as possible to get a Clevo-based laptop from any one of the boutique manufacturers that will perform better and cost less than many of the established companies. 

[Sacriledgy]

On 26/03/2018 at 10:54 AM, D13H4RD2L1V3 said:

Calm down man. Nobody is saying you're buying a bad laptop. We're just telling you the potential tradeoffs of having a thin and light machine housing some beefy components. 

 

My GL502VM is pretty thin especially for a laptop with a GTX 1060 which has a 75 watt TDP (lower than the GTX 970M it replaces) but on a machine that's around the size of mine, it's sorta pushing the limits, at least with the stock thermal application. I reckon if I re-paste it with Kyronaut, I can see temperature drops of at least 7 degrees from its peak or more. Going to a higher TDP GPU like a GTX 1070 is pretty much asking for trouble on such a sleek machine unless you open it up and re-paste it. Some laptops like the GE Apache and Raider have beefy cooling setups despite their sleek profile, however. 

 

It's always a trade off between portability and performance. I would highly recommend shopping around as much as possible to get a Clevo-based laptop from any one of the boutique manufacturers that will perform better and cost less than many of the established companies. 

I get it. What pisses me off that he just keep on telling me that its a bad choice without giving the suggestion that i need. I damn hate shitt, gamery, heavy, and stupid looking laptop. That's just the way it is, i don't care what he thinks about that laptop. I just wanted to look for a decent looking laptop. Give me something else if he knows, I'm only looking for that.

 

Ps: You're fine btw, appreciate the response

[D13H4RD]

6 hours ago, Its Not Important said:

I get it. What pisses me off that he just keep on telling me that its a bad choice without giving the suggestion that i need. I damn hate shitt, gamery, heavy, and stupid looking laptop. That's just the way it is, i don't care what he thinks about that laptop. I just wanted to look for a decent looking laptop. Give me something else if he knows, I'm only looking for that.

 

Ps: You're fine btw, appreciate the response

Inspiron 7577 and overclock that 1060 Max-Q