Fx 8350 or fx 9590

[Nikolacar4]

Hello,so my pc died the other day and my varranty covered it and said that i can pick an 8350 or 9590? What should i chose? My cooler is hyper 212 evo and my mobo is gigabyte 970a-ud3p.

[Sauron]

The 8350, you can't cool a 9590 with a hyper 212

[NelizMastr]

Both crap. Save up for Ryzen or Coffee Lake instead. The 9590 won't run on a Hyper 212 Evo. Way too weak cooler. You need a decent AIO watercooler at least or a high end air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15.

[FloRolf]

Get the 9590 and sell it. Then get a R5 1500 or whatever. 

[Nikolacar4]

Okay,il go with a 8350 then. thanks

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

Both crap. Save up for Ryzen or Coffee Lake instead. The 9590 won't run on a Hyper 212 Evo. Way too weak cooler. You need a decent AIO watercooler at least or a high end air cooler like the Noctua NH-D15.

he sounds like he's getting it back from an RMA, not buying it. I'd get the 8350 since the 9590 is hard to cool and need really good VRMs to avoid cooking the mobo.

[Pasi123]

I would get the 9590 and sell it. Both are pretty bad but the 9590 should be worth a bit more than the 8350.

[NelizMastr]

6 minutes ago, herman mcpootis said:

he sounds like he's getting it back from an RMA, not buying it. I'd get the 8350 since the 9590 is hard to cool and need really good VRMs to avoid cooking the mobo.

Ah yes. This mobo has 8+2 phase VRM with decent protection, though, so in theory it could work. But then again, a V8 motor will work in a VW beetle, but that doesn't mean it's a particularly good idea  

[ColourShift]

12 minutes ago, Nikolacar4 said:

Hello,so my pc died the other day and my varranty covered it and said that i can pick an 8350 or 9590? What should i chose? My cooler is hyper 212 evo and my mobo is gigabyte 970a-ud3p.

get the 9590. undervolt it slightly and you're good to go

[Nikolacar4]

Yeah,i just got the fx 8350, they will give me a new one for free and il be back on gaming :).

[ProximaOfZeal]

Eh, should've gone with 9590, it's really worth so much more. Could've just undervolted&clocked it down to reasonable 8350 levels or sold it altogether. It's really the same thing, just binned for higher clocks and worth more.

[SupaKomputa]

IF you wan to sell it get the 9590, and hope some die hard AM3 fans still wanna purchase it.

 

[NelizMastr]

7 minutes ago, ProximaOfZeal said:

Eh, should've gone with 9590, it's really worth so much more. Could've just undervolted&clocked it down to reasonable 8350 levels or sold it altogether. It's really the same thing, just binned for higher clocks and worth more.

I disagree. It's not really worth that much more and even undervolted and underclocked, the hyper 212 will struggle with it. Keep in mind these chips throttle at 70+ degrees and the 212 is an entry level cooler that'll be just enough for the 8350.

[ProximaOfZeal]

20 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

I disagree. It's not really worth that much more and even undervolted and underclocked, the hyper 212 will struggle with it. Keep in mind these chips throttle at 70+ degrees and the 212 is an entry level cooler that'll be just enough for the 8350.

I'd have rather assumed that a 9590 underclocked to 8350 would actually run cooler and use less power than a 8350, as being a binned chip it should theoretically reach the same clock on lower voltage.

 

Edit: although on second thought you might be right, as it's probably binned for achieving higher clocks and being able to long-term survive high voltages rather than being efficient.

[Nikolacar4]

Okay so change of plans,since my cpu died they gaved me 23000 rsd (serbian dinars) which is enought to get a r5 1600. So thats why i chose. And i also need to get new mobo and ram,i was thinking about these too,what do you think?

Ram: https://www.emmi.rs/ram-memorije-memorija-dimm-ddr4-2x4gb-3000mhz-adata-xpg-z1-cl16.11.html?productId=67706

Mobo:https://www.emmi.rs/matične-ploče-(mb)-mb-amd-am4-asus-prime-a320m-k-m-atx.11.html?productId=61273

Just so you know im on a really tight budget for ram and mobo.

[Broken software]

 Complete waste of money just by ryzen or something. My friend wanted the 9590 because of 5gz

[SpaceGhostC2C]

17 hours ago, ProximaOfZeal said:

Eh, should've gone with 9590, it's really worth so much more. 

16 hours ago, SupaKomputa said:

IF you wan to sell it get the 9590, and hope some die hard AM3 fans still wanna purchase it.

 

There's not much of a difference in the used market. You may be able to extract a few extra $ from the 9590 but that's about it.

 

 

16 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

I disagree. It's not really worth that much more and even undervolted and underclocked, the hyper 212 will struggle with it.

I agree and disagree  There isn't a big advantage of going for the 9590, and OP did the right choice, he can just put it in and forget about it. Or he can overclock later to soem intermediate point. However, undervolting and underclocking the 9590 will make it another 8350. Which one will do better at maintaining a given frequency at a lower voltage is up to silicon lottery, but once you move away from stock clocks it really doesn't matter which FX chip you got, only how lucky you got with your individual unit. So the 9590 won't be better nor worse in that sense. The 8350 was the obvious choice.

 

16 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

Keep in mind these chips throttle at 70+ degrees and the 212 is an entry level cooler that'll be just enough for the 8350.

It'll do for the 8350. I got an 8370E to 8x4.0GHz on its stock cooler, which is weaker than the 8350 stock cooler. I wouldn't OC the 8350 with that, though, which is yet another reason not to go with the 9590 if OP just wants to get back to business with minimal hassle.

[Herman Mcpootis]

12 hours ago, Nikolacar4 said:

Okay so change of plans,since my cpu died they gaved me 23000 rsd (serbian dinars) which is enought to get a r5 1600. So thats why i chose. And i also need to get new mobo and ram,i was thinking about these too,what do you think?

Ram: https://www.emmi.rs/ram-memorije-memorija-dimm-ddr4-2x4gb-3000mhz-adata-xpg-z1-cl16.11.html?productId=67706

Mobo:https://www.emmi.rs/matične-ploče-(mb)-mb-amd-am4-asus-prime-a320m-k-m-atx.11.html?productId=61273

Just so you know im on a really tight budget for ram and mobo.

spend some extra for a B350/m Pro4 or prime plus instead, you don't get overclocking with A320.

[SupaKomputa]

12 hours ago, Nikolacar4 said:

Okay so change of plans,since my cpu died they gaved me 23000 rsd (serbian dinars) which is enought to get a r5 1600. So thats why i chose. And i also need to get new mobo and ram,i was thinking about these too,what do you think?

Ram: https://www.emmi.rs/ram-memorije-memorija-dimm-ddr4-2x4gb-3000mhz-adata-xpg-z1-cl16.11.html?productId=67706

Mobo:https://www.emmi.rs/matične-ploče-(mb)-mb-amd-am4-asus-prime-a320m-k-m-atx.11.html?productId=61273

Just so you know im on a really tight budget for ram and mobo.

Go buy Ryzen 2400g + a cheap 320 mobo. No need for 1600 if you wanna save some money.

[ColourShift]

23 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

I disagree. It's not really worth that much more and even undervolted and underclocked, the hyper 212 will struggle with it. Keep in mind these chips throttle at 70+ degrees and the 212 is an entry level cooler that'll be just enough for the 8350.

That's false. I used to own a 9590, it ran just fine on an air cooler. It wasn't the greatest air cooler too, but fan fine. Even overclocked it a bit. Stress tested it and the temperatures were well with-in operating temperature.