How much Watts do I need????

[Azam-45]

I tried to calculate PSU so many times. But the only thing I get is headache.

So, I hop someone tell me how much I do need.

 

Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 AM4 AMD Promontory B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: Ryzen 7 1700.

CPU cooler: AMD Wraith Spire LED Cooler

Hard drive: WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD1003FZEX

SSD: Kingston A400 2.5" 240GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SA400S37/240G

RAM: G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) AMD X370 / B350 / A320 Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-2400C16D-16GFXR.)

Graphic Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready ATX Video Card .

Case: Rosewill ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case With Side Panel Window, Three Fans Pre-Installed, USB 3.0 x 2 - BRADLEY M

Monitor: Acer GN246HL Black 24" Gaming Monitors, 144 Hz 1ms (GTG), LED Backlight LCD Monitor Provide Immersive 3D Image

 

Question: Is it necessary to have 3200 RAM or not ???

I don't care about overclocking or ultra graphic.

I'm mostly playing on medium or high setting.

[thisforumsucksassdeletemya]

A high quality 500w power supply should be perfectly fine.

[PrimeSonic]

6 minutes ago, Azam-45 said:

 CPU: Ryzen 7 1700.

Graphic Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready ATX Video Card .

Question: Is it necessary to have 3200 RAM or not ???

I don't care about overclocking or ultra graphic.

I'm mostly playing on medium or high setting.

You could honestly get away with a 550watt PSU.

Get a 650w if it fits your budget just to leave yourself with room to grow.

 

And no, you don't "need" RAM that fast. You'll be able to enjoy your games just fine even if it's clocked a little slower.

[Streetguru]

6 minutes ago, Azam-45 said:

 

What is your budget/country and what do you need your PC for?

Namely do you already have a 1060 or were you going to be paying current prices? As I'd advise against that.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, PrimeSonic said:

You could honestly get away with a 550watt PSU.

Get a 650w if it fits your budget just to leave yourself with room to grow.

 

And no, you don't "need" RAM that fast. You'll be able to enjoy your games just fine even if it's clocked a little slower.

 

7 minutes ago, Azam-45 said:

 

It's better to have 3000+ mhz RAM than to not have it, and it should be available close in price to Flare X kits.

[Mira Yurizaki]

The bare minimum I would say is 400W, but this is provided the PSU is a solid unit from a reputable company.

 

Otherwise something in the 500-600W range should be fine since quality units at more affordable prices can be found.

[Coaxialgamer]

500w should be plenty even when overclocked .

 

Also , faster ram definitely helps performance significantly due to how memory clock is tied to infinity fabric . But you're unlikely to get over 3200mhz running on ryzen . My suggestion would be to buy a cheaper 2666 kit and try to overclock it. But if you can find a 3000/3200mhz kit for cheap , get that instead

[Coaxialgamer]

13 minutes ago, PrimeSonic said:

You could honestly get away with a 550watt PSU.

Get a 650w if it fits your budget just to leave yourself with room to grow.

 

And no, you don't "need" RAM that fast. You'll be able to enjoy your games just fine even if it's clocked a little slower.

It is DEFINITELY worth it and HIGHLY recommended .

3200 mhz ram only costs 10$ above what op has listed ( about 1% of the total build cost ) and can result in around 10% extra performance in games and cpu/memory bound applications

[STRMfrmXMN]

25 minutes ago, Azam-45 said:

I tried to calculate PSU so many times. But the only thing I get is headache.

So, I hop someone tell me how much I do need.

 

Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 AM4 AMD Promontory B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: Ryzen 7 1700.

CPU cooler: AMD Wraith Spire LED Cooler

Hard drive: WD Black 1TB Performance Desktop Hard Disk Drive - 7200 RPM SATA 6Gb/s 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch - WD1003FZEX

SSD: Kingston A400 2.5" 240GB SATA III TLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) SA400S37/240G

RAM: G.SKILL Flare X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 2400 (PC4 19200) AMD X370 / B350 / A320 Memory (Desktop Memory) Model F4-2400C16D-16GFXR.)

Graphic Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready ATX Video Card .

Case: Rosewill ATX Mid Tower Gaming Case With Side Panel Window, Three Fans Pre-Installed, USB 3.0 x 2 - BRADLEY M

Monitor: Acer GN246HL Black 24" Gaming Monitors, 144 Hz 1ms (GTG), LED Backlight LCD Monitor Provide Immersive 3D Image

 

Question: Is it necessary to have 3200 RAM or not ???

I don't care about overclocking or ultra graphic.

I'm mostly playing on medium or high setting.

So RAM: no it isn't necessary, but faster memory does make a difference, even using non-Ryzen CPUs. You can spend a little bit more on faster memory if you want, but to ensure that you get the rated speed you're going to have to spend the money on Samsung B-die, and that shit is expensive. You can Google the SKU of your RAM to see if it's Samsung B-die. If it isn't, then you're pretty unlikely to actually be able to hit the XMP-rated speeds of the memory.

 

I've used the mATX version of your motherboard and hated it, just by the way. I'd recommend the B350 Tomahawk or B350 Prime Plus. I'd also recommend a hexacore as I highly doubt you're doing anything where 8 cores is necessary.

 

For a PSU, a 1700 and 1060 without OC would draw about 200W, so don't worry too much about wattage. A Corsair CX450M would be fine. If you want something like a GTX 1080 down the line then a CX550M would be fine as well. Perhaps the money you'd save by getting a 1600 instead of a 1700 would allow you to get faster memory, a better case, or whatever else.

[PrimeSonic]

10 minutes ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

For a PSU, a 1700 and 1060 without OC would draw about 200W, so don't worry too much about wattage. A Corsair CX450M would be fine. If you want something like a GTX 1080 down the line then a CX550M would be fine as well. Perhaps the money you'd save by getting a 1600 instead of a 1700 would allow you to get faster memory, a better case, or whatever else.

Know what, he's right.

These parts don't draw that much power so most any PSU you pick up, even budget friendly options, will be fine.

[Stefan Payne]

2 hours ago, Azam-45 said:

I tried to calculate PSU so many times. But the only thing I get is headache.

So, I hop someone tell me how much I do need.

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Motherboard: ASRock AB350 Pro4 AM4 AMD Promontory B350 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

CPU: Ryzen 7 1700.

Graphic Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1060 DirectX 12 GTX 1060 GAMING X 6G 6GB 192-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready ATX Video Card .

1. The improved Ryzen 2000 series will come out somewhere next month. And it gives you around 300MHz higher clockrates (for the 1700x vs 2700x) and maybe an improved memory controller. So it might be worth the wait...

 

2. With that setup you could get away with a good quality 300-350W PSU.

But since thos do not exist anymore, you have to settle for 400-450W.

Some good units:
Bitfenix Formula, Whisper M, be quiet Pure Power 10 400W, Straight Power 11, 450W.

Sometimes there are no 4x0W versions and you have to go for the 550W...

 

2 hours ago, Azam-45 said:

Question: Is it necessary to have 3200 RAM or not ??

It is absolutely an advantage because of the way Ryzen works...

As you may (or may not) know Ryzen has two 4 core clusters that are conneced with the memory speed.

 

So with higher memory clockrates you increase the clockrate of this interface so that gives you a double improvement:
Higher memory bandwith and also higher bandwith between the so called CCX.

 

2 hours ago, PrimeSonic said:

You could honestly get away with a 550watt PSU.

Get a 650w if it fits your budget just to leave yourself with room to grow.

No, you overestimate the power consumption by at least 50%.

And 650W PSU are just nonsense in 9 out of 10 cases.

They only make sense when we are talking about High End Desktop Systems wich we are not...

 

2 hours ago, PrimeSonic said:

And no, you don't "need" RAM that fast. You'll be able to enjoy your games just fine even if it's clocked a little slower.

We are talking about a Ryzen and there the higher memory clock makes very much sense and improves the performance beyond the memory speed because the CCX interconnects run with memory clocks...

[Azam-45]

14 hours ago, Streetguru said:

What is your budget/country and what do you need your PC for?

Namely do you already have a 1060 or were you going to be paying current prices? As I'd advise against that.

Less than 1500$.

Saudi Arabia .

for gaming and probably for programming.

 

This is my first build. So, I don’t have a graphic card.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, Azam-45 said:

 

Well is GPU pricing normal in your region or is it double MSRP?

Because if you're doing just 1080p gaming, a Ryzen 3 2200G or R5 2400G will be a pretty cheap system overall, and still be alright for 1080p gaming. Then you'd save the rest of the money for next generation GPUs in a few months.

How heavy is the programming? Does it require a ton of CPU horsepower and RAM?

[Azam-45]

10 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Well is GPU pricing normal in your region or is it double MSRP?

Because if you're doing just 1080p gaming, a Ryzen 3 2200G or R5 2400G will be a pretty cheap system overall, and still be alright for 1080p gaming. Then you'd save the rest of the money for next generation GPUs in a few months.

How heavy is the programming? Does it require a ton of CPU horsepower and RAM?

Actually I’m just use it for gaming.

Therfore no need to think about programming.

 

about gpu you said I have to use gtx 1080

 but how much watt does it take???

 

[Streetguru]

3 minutes ago, Azam-45 said:

Actually I’m just use it for gaming.

Therfore no need to think about programming.

If GPU prices are normal in your area look for a 1060 6GB or RX 580 8GB preferably. and as I said before 500W+ is probably good/safe from a decent PSU maker, check if Jonnyguru or a similar site has done a review.

If GPU pricing is crazy where you are, consider a basic Ryzen APU build for 1080p gaming until next gen GPUs are out and you get GTX 1070/Vega 56 performance for the price of a 1060

Motherboard may need a BIOS update to use the Ryzen APU .
 

 

[JoostinOnline]

Just add the parts to PCPartPicker. It will establish the absolute maximum usage. If you weren't overclocking, even a 450W one would be fine. You'd use less power, but below 450 almost all power supplies are crap. Best to overestimate for overclocking though, so get 550-600W.