Ryzen 3 2200g Ryzen 5 2400g

[Sn1p3z]

Every gamer should be praying to AMD since they made these things. Let me explain, Due to miners buying the graphics cards therefore making them go up in price, these new APU's are perfect for gamers due to the powerful Vega graphics within. Not to mention how cheap they are. I am thinking about getting a Ryzen 3 2200g due to it being only $99 and is better than my current setup.

[STRESSMASTER]

This is only if you 1. either have a old GPU or 2. your GPU isn't at least equivalent GTX 700 series.

[Sn1p3z]

8 minutes ago, STRESSMASTER said:

This is only if you 1. either have a old GPU or 2. your GPU isn't at least equivalent GTX 700 series.

The Vega 8 graphics are far better than a graphics card from the GTX 700 series but I get your point.

[STRESSMASTER]

was going on justifiable cost but ya the Vega are ok for the cost but I'd go with a 1050 or ti and better personally as the cost has dropped quite a bit since release.

[Sn1p3z]

1 minute ago, STRESSMASTER said:

was going on justifiable cost but ya the Vega are ok for the cost but I'd go with a 1050 or ti and better personally as the cost has dropped quite a bit since release.

You could get one of them and just upgrade the GPU when the prices go back down to reasonable prices.

[STRESSMASTER]

1 minute ago, Sn1p3z said:

You could get one of them and just upgrade the GPU when the prices go back down to reasonable prices.

I forgot (DUH) due to crypto the costs have gone up again. Do you remember where the Vega falls in for performance in the GTX line? I though it was around 900 series???

[Sn1p3z]

1 minute ago, STRESSMASTER said:

I forgot (DUH) due to crypto the costs have gone up again. Do you remember where the Vega falls in for performance in the GTX line? I though it was around 900 series???

No idea dude. Sorry. Also the Vega graphics are VERY capable machines 

[JoostinOnline]

10 minutes ago, Sn1p3z said:

The Vega 8 graphics are far better than a graphics card from the GTX 700 series but I get your point.

The APU's have the same performance as a 750 Ti.  Just because it's Vega architecture, that doesn't mean it's as powerful as a discrete GPU.

[Sn1p3z]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

The APU's have the same performance as a 750 Ti.  Just because it's Vega architecture, that doesn't mean it's as powerful as a discrete GPU.

The new ones with Vega is the best built in graphics yet and are far more powerful than you think my dude. No offence 

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, Sn1p3z said:

The new ones with Vega is the best built in graphics yet and are far more powerful than you think my dude. No offence 

No they aren't.

 

Keep in mind that the 1030 is significantly weaker than the 750 Ti.

 

[Jurrunio]

Even Vega 11 is only as good as the GT 1030, better in some cases, worse in some others. Ryzen 3 2200G's Vega 8 is nothing but even slower. I'd say it's good if your current graphics card is even slower than a 750ti. If you have a better or equal card, then just get a used i5, better with a DDR3 mobo.

3 minutes ago, Sn1p3z said:

The new ones with Vega is the best built in graphics yet and are far more powerful than you think my dude. No offence 

Fanboy detected

[Sn1p3z]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

No they aren't.

 

I saw that video last night. Also think about the price for one of those gpu's and get a processor of = power and look at the price.

[JoostinOnline]

Just now, Sn1p3z said:

I saw that video last night. Also think about the price for one of those gpu's and get a processor of = power and look at the price.

I didn't say it was bad, but it's weaker than a 750 Ti.  It's not that powerful.  If you want an ultra budget system, a 2400G will work for you.  Otherwise, get something better on the used market.

[Sn1p3z]

Just now, JoostinOnline said:

I didn't say it was bad, but it's weaker than a 750 Ti.  It's not that powerful.  If you want an ultra budget system, a 2400G will work for you.  Otherwise, get something better on the used market.

The 2200G is the same but has 4 less threads and slightly worse graphics than the 2400G. Also the last time I checked, the 750 Ti was considered low end.

[STRESSMASTER]

All APU's are considered LOW-END FYI

[Sn1p3z]

Just now, STRESSMASTER said:

All APU's are considered LOW-END FYI

The last time I checked the 750 Ti wasn't an APU graphics processor.

[JoostinOnline]

2 minutes ago, Sn1p3z said:

Also the last time I checked, the 750 Ti was considered low end.

That's kind of my point.  When the APU is slightly weaker than a low end card from four years ago, it doesn't deserve to be called powerful.

[Sn1p3z]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

That's kind of my point.  When the APU is slightly weaker than a low end card from four years ago, it doesn't deserve to be called powerful.

You're not wrong but my point is that these have the best inbuilt graphics processing for APU's ever. And since miners can't use 100 at a time without having 100 different systems they won't be buying them leaving them with the 1080 Ti's that will soon go out of stock. These APU's are only going to get stronger and stronger the more we get into the furture and more will be made. So go out and buy one of these for you AM3+ and AM4 motherboards today.

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, Sn1p3z said:

You're not wrong but my point is that these have the best inbuilt graphics processing for APU's ever. And since miners can't use 100 at a time without having 100 different systems they won't be buying them leaving them with the 1080 Ti's that will soon go out of stock. These APU's are only going to get stronger and stronger the more we get into the furture and more will be made. So go out and buy one of these for you AM3+ and AM4 motherboards today.

Well that's not exactly a revelation.  Literally every generation ever has been "the most powerful ever."

[Sn1p3z]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

Well that's not exactly a revelation.  Literally every generation ever has been "the most powerful ever."

It is a big jump alright.

[JoostinOnline]

Just now, Sn1p3z said:

It is a big jump alright.

It's the first APU that hasn't been crap, yeah.  It has uses, and that's great, but it's definitely not the solution to the GPU problem.

 

To clarify, all of Intel's iGPU's are still crap.  I wasn't taking a shot at AMD.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, Sn1p3z said:

You're not wrong but my point is that these have the best inbuilt graphics processing for APU's ever. And since miners can't use 100 at a time without having 100 different systems they won't be buying them leaving them with the 1080 Ti's that will soon go out of stock. These APU's are only going to get stronger and stronger the more we get into the furture and more will be made. So go out and buy one of these for you AM3+ and AM4 motherboards today.

Sure, but Ryzen APUs, just like their Bulldozer predecessors, are only good for basic games. Their power increased, but so is the demand of modern games on hardware power.  Just like in the past, APUs replace the low end stuff (Ryzen ones replace GT 1030 and RX 550, Bulldozer replaces HD 7750 and GTX 650). They havent improve things at all, just a timely response in the graphics card market plagues by the mining heat.

[AngryBeaver]

8 hours ago, Sn1p3z said:

The Vega 8 graphics are far better than a graphics card from the GTX 700 series but I get your point.

Not true. The new 2400g for example has performance slightly worse than a 1030.

 

So if we play the backwards game then turns out to look like this when it comes to power of past generations

 

1030 = 940 = 750 = 660 =! 570 = 480

 

There was a big performance jump from the 500 to 600 series.. so that might be off hence the !, but the rest is pretty accurate. So for example a 750ti would be more powerful than the 2400g APU.

 

So the statement about the 700 series was pretty accurate as most people have a 750ti minimum from that series.

[Jurrunio]

1 hour ago, AngryBeaver said:

Not true. The new 2400g for example has performance slightly worse than a 1030.

 

So if we play the backwards game then turns out to look like this when it comes to power of past generations

 

1030 = 940 = 750 = 660 =! 570 = 480

 

There was a big performance jump from the 500 to 600 series.. so that might be off hence the !, but the rest is pretty accurate. So for example a 750ti would be more powerful than the 2400g APU.

 

So the statement about the 700 series was pretty accurate as most people have a 750ti minimum from that series.

Actually 1030 and Vega 11 are neck and neck, and the 1030 is inline with the 750ti, not 750.

[Mira Yurizaki]

9 hours ago, JoostinOnline said:

To clarify, all of Intel's iGPU's are still crap.

Iris Pro has been great. I just don't understand why Intel doesn't put it in anything lower end where it would make more sense.