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Laptop on SSD still slow.

LunaP0n3

Okay all, here's the situation.

My grandfather bought an Akoya Medion E7222 PC at ALDI (Australian Company) ages ago and he's been using it for years. For the last couple of years until about 2 years ago it had a OCZ Agility 3 240GB in it.

 

Herein lies the problem.

The system still feels sluggish on boot times, and from a little testing I've done it seems like the SSD's Random Read performance is limping.

As a troubleshooting measure we migrated off the OCZ one to a SanDisk SSD Plus 480GB to try and get to a more modern SSD as from reading user reviews that OCZ one was pretty old.

  • In the Capture.png file I did a random read test in HDSentinel. The latency is all over the place and the temperature of the drive skyrocketed to 57'C
  • The WAYNE-LAPTOP.txt file contains a readout from Speccy.
  • I have noticed that both the mechanical and SSD drives are both running in SATA II mode

I'm suspecting that the motherboard's SATA controller is just simply not powerful enough to run all these devices at the full SATA III speeds, or it has been faulty right from day one.

I'd love to kick the old machine into turbo mode and make his boot times far better.

Any ideas?

 

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I think the bottleneck is from the MOBO. No SATA 3 means slower speed in read and write to SSD. Time to change the whole laptop if speed is very important.

 

PS. This is only what I think. Just so you know, 95% of the time my advise are wrong ... :(

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18 minutes ago, LunaP0n3 said:

Okay all, here's the situation.

My grandfather bought an Akoya Medion E7222 PC at ALDI (Australian Company) ages ago and he's been using it for years. For the last couple of years until about 2 years ago it had a OCZ Agility 3 240GB in it.

 

Herein lies the problem.

The system still feels sluggish on boot times, and from a little testing I've done it seems like the SSD's Random Read performance is limping.

As a troubleshooting measure we migrated off the OCZ one to a SanDisk SSD Plus 480GB to try and get to a more modern SSD as from reading user reviews that OCZ one was pretty old.

  • In the Capture.png file I did a random read test in HDSentinel. The latency is all over the place and the temperature of the drive skyrocketed to 57'C
  • The WAYNE-LAPTOP.txt file contains a readout from Speccy.
  • I have noticed that both the mechanical and SSD drives are both running in SATA II mode

I'm suspecting that the motherboard's SATA controller is just simply not powerful enough to run all these devices at the full SATA III speeds, or it has been faulty right from day one.

I'd love to kick the old machine into turbo mode and make his boot times far better.

Any ideas?

 

 

WAYNE-LAPTOP.txt

Did you migrate the OS or was it a fresh install? if not, there might be some old files kicking about or anything else that are causing the slowness of your laptop. Bear in mind that I checked system specs and it's very old. Second Gen i3 Mobile CPU. Not the fastest. 

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1 minute ago, Abdul201588 said:

Did you migrate the OS or was it a fresh install? if not, there might be some old files kicking about or anything else that are causing the slowness of your laptop. Bear in mind that I checked system specs and it's very old. Second Gen i3 Mobile CPU. Not the fastest. 

It was a migration. Maybe try reloading Windows?

 

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Just now, LunaP0n3 said:

It was a migration. Maybe try reloading Windows?

 

If someone wants new OS on their old PC/Laptop I'd recommend a Windows reinstall. 

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Yeah I think that laptop is due for retirement mate, a clean windows install would probably help but I suspect that machine was made using pretty budget parts so it may well be that it doesn't have a SATA III controller and any perceived speed from when it was new is simply a result of it being a clean(ish) install compared to (if it's anything like my grandads PC) it's current bloatiness.

 

Also, Aldi is a German company, we have them in the UK to 9_9 (Though I've never seen them flogging laptops!)

 

Maybe this should be an LTT review xD

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It's going to a bummer if we end up having to retire this machine, as it has dual 2.5" HDD bays with a DVD burner. Exceedingly rare on budget machines as I'm lead to believe (only really found on monster gaming laptops), We might have to look at a machine that has an m.2 SSD, with a 2.5 bay and DVD Burner

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Yeah those are pretty common these days (m.2 + 2.5" bay I mean) but you're right, finding one with all 3 won't be easy. You could look at getting a pre-owned business laptop. For example I have an old Dell Precision laptop at home which I picked up on ebay for about £200 that has 2 bays and an optical (alright its pretty hefty but it's got 16gb of DDR3 and an old i7 in it - with an SSD it runs perfectly fine).

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I'll discuss it with my grandfather and go over possible options for a new device (If he decides to upgrade) He hardly uses the ODD anymore, but likes to have it handy as the laptop does occasionally go on the road. Easily fixed with a portable ODD.

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Thanks everyone for the comments. I now believe I can present the situation as plainly as possible to him.

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