Is this a good $2500 CAD build?

[Daniel Z.]

This list is for my friend. Please help him out of his Razer addiction. I used Amazon and Memory Express only because it is 40 more than normal, and we have a memory express pretty close.

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($374.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: MSI - X370 SLI PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($167.37 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($179.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($1024.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($129.99 @ Memory Express) 
Power Supply: Thermaltake - Smart Pro RGB 850W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($108.68 @ Amazon Canada) 
Keyboard: Corsair - K65 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse  ($77.16 @ Amazon Canada) 
Headphones: Kingston - HyperX Cloud Core  Headset  ($96.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2355.14
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-10 00:24 EST-0500

[Daniel Z.]

I also told him to get a 598 but he really wants a headset. 

 

wait, I forgot RAM

[TheSLSAMG]

I'm not seeing RAM in this list, but the list itself looks fine other than that (CPU cooling would be nice though). I might consider a better PSU though. The SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold is $120 at Newegg Canada if you can order it.

 

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187

[Jurrunio]

Nothing obviously wrong. I do have terrible experience with Seagate drives though

[seon123]

What's the build for?

All MSI AM4 motherboards are crap and/or overpriced. 

Way overkill wattage on the PSU. You could get a better, lower wattage PSU for less. 

[LienusLateTips]

If he wants a headset, I can recommend a Arctis 3/5 over that one.

 

PSU is TRASH and motherboard ask @dave_k first

[Daniel Z.]

12 minutes ago, JDE said:

If he wants a headset, I can recommend a Arctis 3/5 over that one.

 

PSU is TRASH and motherboard ask @dave_k first

 

13 minutes ago, seon123 said:

What's the build for?

All MSI AM4 motherboards are crap and/or overpriced. 

Way overkill wattage on the PSU. You could get a better, lower wattage PSU for less. 

K got it. The PSU seems ok from the JonnyGuru review. I got it in case he wants to SLi in the future. Build is for gaming and streaming.

[Daniel Z.]

20 minutes ago, TheSLSAMG said:

I'm not seeing RAM in this list, but the list itself looks fine other than that (CPU cooling would be nice though). I might consider a better PSU though. The SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold is $120 at Newegg Canada if you can order it.

 

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187

 

15 minutes ago, JDE said:

If he wants a headset, I can recommend a Arctis 3/5 over that one.

 

PSU is TRASH and motherboard ask @dave_k first

 

15 minutes ago, seon123 said:

What's the build for?

All MSI AM4 motherboards are crap and/or overpriced. 

Way overkill wattage on the PSU. You could get a better, lower wattage PSU for less. 

 

18 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Nothing obviously wrong. I do have terrible experience with Seagate drives though

this better? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($374.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($194.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Patriot - 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($121.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($176.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($1024.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($121.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Keyboard: Corsair - K65 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse  ($76.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Headphones: Sennheiser - HD 598SR  Headset  ($159.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Other: Antlion Audio ModMic 5 Modular Attachable Boom Microphone  ($99.95 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2667.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-10 00:55 EST-0500

[LienusLateTips]

2 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

 

K got it. The PSU seems ok from the JonnyGuru review. I got it in case he wants to SLi in the future. Build is for gaming and streaming.

Let's rephrase that.

"The PSU is not the best for the price range, and has ok-meh ripple."

[LienusLateTips]

Just now, Daniel Z. said:

 

 

 

this better? 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3.0GHz 8-Core Processor  ($374.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Motherboard: Asus - PRIME X370-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($194.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Memory: Patriot - 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory  ($121.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Crucial - MX300 525GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive  ($176.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Storage: Seagate - Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($74.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11GB SC Black Edition Video Card  ($1024.99 @ Memory Express) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide 400C White ATX Mid Tower Case  ($119.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($121.99 @ PC-Canada) 
Keyboard: Corsair - K65 RGB Wired Gaming Keyboard  ($119.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Mouse: Logitech - G502 Proteus Spectrum Wired Optical Mouse  ($76.98 @ Amazon Canada) 
Headphones: Sennheiser - HD 598SR  Headset  ($159.99 @ Amazon Canada) 
Other: Antlion Audio ModMic 5 Modular Attachable Boom Microphone  ($99.95 @ Amazon Canada) 
Total: $2667.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-01-10 00:55 EST-0500

^^^

 

Maybe go cheap (hint hint Arctis lineup hint hint) on the headset by a bit.

[Daniel Z.]

3 minutes ago, JDE said:

^^^

 

Maybe go cheap (hint hint Arctis lineup hint hint) on the headset by a bit.

i am a really big open back fanboy

[seon123]

3 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

this better? 

-snip-

Change the PSU to the TX550M, if he won't replace all the cables. 

Other than that, I think it looks fine. 

[arnavvr]

Swap out the CPU for an Intel 8700K + Strix Z370.

[LienusLateTips]

1 minute ago, arnavvr said:

Swap out the CPU for an Intel 8700K + Strix Z370.

It's not better in every situation.

[just_dave]

Prime X370 Pro Motherboard.

For Gaming, Philips SHP9500 with BoomPro microphone

[dizmo]

Your second build is vastly superior to the first.

The G3 is only $3 more. Not sure what the differences are between the two but might be worth taking a look at.

I don't usually recommend Seagate but honestly for the price it's a good deal.

I also prefer gaming headsets because I hate having 2 cables coming off of it, but each to their own there

52 minutes ago, seon123 said:

What's the build for?

All MSI AM4 motherboards are crap and/or overpriced. 

Way overkill wattage on the PSU. You could get a better, lower wattage PSU for less. 

What are bad about them? They seem to get pretty decent reviews.

22 minutes ago, JDE said:

It's not better in every situation.

When the use cases aren't listed it's hard to argue either way

[seon123]

12 minutes ago, dizmo said:

What are bad about them? They seem to get pretty decent reviews.

Aweful VRMs and BIOS issues. The BIOS has been improved, but it's still a bit annoying

[dizmo]

9 minutes ago, seon123 said:

Aweful VRMs and BIOS issues. The BIOS has been improved, but it's still a bit annoying

Ah, at least it's fixed. I have a X370 SLI on the way

[seon123]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

Ah, at least it's fixed. I have a X370 SLI on the way

But the VRM isn't any better than the B350 Krait and Carbon. Just a big 4-phase. 

If you got it for B350 prices, it's fine, I guess. But if you'll overclock an 8-core, you'll probably want something better

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, seon123 said:

But the VRM isn't any better than the B350 Krait and Carbon. Just a big 4-phase. 

If you got it for B350 prices, it's fine, I guess. But if you'll overclock an 8-core, you'll probably want something better

It was $45. I'm just throwing a 1400 in it, so I think it should be fine? I'm only using it for a year anyway. *crosses fingers*
I wasn't a huge fan of MSI, but at that price...

[just_dave]

3 hours ago, dizmo said:

It was $45. I'm just throwing a 1400 in it, so I think it should be fine? I'm only using it for a year anyway. *crosses fingers*
I wasn't a huge fan of MSI, but at that price...

ye it will be fine, especially for 4 core, even 6 core would be ok

[Daniel Z.]

10 hours ago, TheSLSAMG said:

I'm not seeing RAM in this list, but the list itself looks fine other than that (CPU cooling would be nice though). I might consider a better PSU though. The SeaSonic Focus Plus Gold is $120 at Newegg Canada if you can order it.

 

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151187

 

10 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

Nothing obviously wrong. I do have terrible experience with Seagate drives though

 

10 hours ago, seon123 said:

What's the build for?

All MSI AM4 motherboards are crap and/or overpriced. 

Way overkill wattage on the PSU. You could get a better, lower wattage PSU for less. 

 

10 hours ago, JDE said:

If he wants a headset, I can recommend a Arctis 3/5 over that one.

 

PSU is TRASH and motherboard ask @dave_k first

 

10 hours ago, seon123 said:

Change the PSU to the TX550M, if he won't replace all the cables. 

Other than that, I think it looks fine. 

 

10 hours ago, arnavvr said:

Swap out the CPU for an Intel 8700K + Strix Z370.

 

9 hours ago, dave_k said:

Prime X370 Pro Motherboard.

For Gaming, Philips SHP9500 with BoomPro microphone

 

9 hours ago, dizmo said:

Ah, at least it's fixed. I have a X370 SLI on the way

Is it worth getting a hybrid EVGA 1080ti if it's only 70 more?

[arnavvr]

19 minutes ago, Daniel Z. said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Is it worth getting a hybrid EVGA 1080ti if it's only 70 more?

If you are an overclocker or a silence freak, yes. If not, then no.

[ShoByte]

11 hours ago, seon123 said:

What's the build for?

All MSI AM4 motherboards are crap and/or overpriced. 

Way overkill wattage on the PSU. You could get a better, lower wattage PSU for less. 

They are one of the best OC boards out there. Support from them is awesome. There are plenty of boards more expensive than the MSI boards.

[seon123]

10 minutes ago, ShoByte said:

They are one of the best OC boards out there. Support from them is awesome. There are plenty of boards more expensive than the MSI boards.

Tell me more about that. Tell me more about how a 4-phase VRM with crappy MOSFETs is better for overclocking than a real 6-phase, a doubled 4-phase or a doubled 6-phase, all with decent MOSFETs. Or the overpriced Xpower Titanium with a 6-phase using crappy MOSFETs. 

 

It's not about the price, it's about getting your money's worth. And if you get a much worse board, even if it isn't as expensive, it's overpriced. 

 

Support isn't awesome. It took a while for them to get the Agesa 1006 update.