The ****** thermal throttle on this one.

[Filenot]

Is it normal of a ryzen 3 1200 (3.1 ghz standard voltage) to throttle to 1.35 GHz with the stock cooler?

 

PS no matter what the verdict, I'm going to get a new cooler, the h60.

[kelvinhall05]

DON'T BUY THAT COOLER. A budget air cooler can easily outperform it.

[iRileyx]

Not normal at all. Have you mounted it securely and correctly? What do the temperatures actually get to when it throttles?

 

Also don't waste your money on the H60.

[Tracer]

Can confirm. Single rads aren't worth at all. Something like the Cryorig H5, H7, or Kotetsu Scythe would be a much value. You can spend the extra money on a different part of your PC

[Ωhmbreon]

2 minutes ago, TwoAdultsOneChild said:

Can confirm. Single rads aren't worth at all. Something like the Cryorig H5, H7, or Kotetsu Scythe would be a much value. You can spend the extra money on a different part of your PC

Expanding off of him, you could even get something like the Cryorig M9a. It looks pretty good and has plenty of cooling capability for a Ryzen 1200 and is only $20 in newegg.

[flibberdipper]

Definitely not normal, and the H60 is not worth it at all, unless you have some tiny-ass case that you can't stuff something like a Cryorig H5 Universal in.

[NelizMastr]

Are you sure it’s throttling and not just using “cool n quiet” when it’d sitting idle?

 

I ran my R7 1700 @ 3.6 with the stock cooler, no issues.

 

[Atmos]

No. those kinds of throttles are not 'normal' while under a normal workload what so ever for the stock cooler on a 1200. There's absolutely a problem with the mounting on the cooler if those are the temperatures you're getting. Watch your temps while it throttles. On a side note, if thats just the clock when nothing particularly complex is happening, say if you're just web browsing then that's absolutely fine, that's just a dynamic clock on the cpu changing to a lower speed because the full speed and powerdraw isn't required. 

 

Power down your computer, remove the cooler, clean off the thermal compound. Reapply a fresh dab of thermal compound and securely remount the cooler.

 

The h60 isn't a worthwhile investment of your money. There are far cheaper coolers that cool the same for far less money; and remove the admittedly tiny risk of a cheap AIO deciding to crap the bed and take your system out with a leak.

[Filenot]

2 hours ago, RKRiley said:

Not normal at all. Have you mounted it securely and correctly? What do the temperatures actually get to when it throttles?

 

Also don't waste your money on the H60.

In the Bois it's says anywhere from 80 to 90

[Filenot]

2 hours ago, Atmos said:

No. those kinds of throttles are not 'normal' while under a normal workload what so ever for the stock cooler on a 1200. There's absolutely a problem with the mounting on the cooler if those are the temperatures you're getting. Watch your temps while it throttles. On a side note, if thats just the clock when nothing particularly complex is happening, say if you're just web browsing then that's absolutely fine, that's just a dynamic clock on the cpu changing to a lower speed because the full speed and powerdraw isn't required. 

 

Power down your computer, remove the cooler, clean off the thermal compound. Reapply a fresh dab of thermal compound and securely remount the cooler.

 

The h60 isn't a worthwhile investment of your money. There are far cheaper coolers that cool the same for far less money; and remove the admittedly tiny risk of a cheap AIO deciding to crap the bed and take your system out with a leak.

What liquid cool would you recommend I get? I want to replace the stock cooler at some point, (to make ready for upgrades).

[Filenot]

2 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

Are you sure it’s throttling and not just using “cool n quiet” when it’d sitting idle?

 

I ran my R7 1700 @ 3.6 with the stock cooler, no issues.

 

I'll check into it. TIME TO DOWNLOAD BLENDER

[Filenot]

2 hours ago, kelvinhall05 said:

DON'T BUY THAT COOLER. A budget air cooler can easily outperform it.

Can you inform me on a nice liquid cooler perhaps? I meant to prepare to upgrade to lay on a heavy oc

[kelvinhall05]

Just now, Filenot said:

Can you inform me on a nice liquid cooler perhaps? I meant to prepare to upgrade to lay on a heavy oc

Any nice one with a 240mm radiator or bigger.

[Filenot]

Just now, kelvinhall05 said:

Any nice one with a 240mm radiator or bigger.

Thanks. I'll go see some

[Filenot]

2 hours ago, Ωhmbreon said:

Expanding off of him, you could even get something like the Cryorig M9a. It looks pretty good and has plenty of cooling capability for a Ryzen 1200 and is only $20 in newegg.

My question is could that Handel a run 1800x. I know that seems like a leap, but it's a path I want to explore

[Filenot]

2 hours ago, RKRiley said:

Not normal at all. Have you mounted it securely and correctly? What do the temperatures actually get to when it throttles?

 

Also don't waste your money on the H60.

PS I don't have a way to dynamicly messure temps.

[Filenot]

10 minutes ago, Filenot said:

Thanks. I'll go see some

Would a master liquid lite 240 be a good cooler? (I'm still doing some reasurch, it was the first I saw) 

 

Or how about a thermaltake water 3.0 240?

 

[aezakmi]

A 240mm AIO would be overkill for that CPU, even if you overclock it, a Noctua air cooler would be enough IMO

[BuckGup]

On the stock cooler I can get 3.8ghz easy and it's below 65C

[arnavvr]

1 minute ago, BuckGup said:

On the stock cooler I can get 3.8ghz easy and it's below 65C

You don't have the same CPU that he does, it's not a fair comparison. 

[BuckGup]

14 minutes ago, arnavvr said:

You don't have the same CPU that he does, it's not a fair comparison. 

I have a Ryzen 1200 too. What???

[Filenot]

13 hours ago, aezakmi said:

A 240mm AIO would be overkill for that CPU, even if you overclock it, a Noctua air cooler would be enough IMO

I understand that,but I kinda wanna prepair the rig for somat bigger

[Atmos]

14 hours ago, Filenot said:

What liquid cool would you recommend I get? I want to replace the stock cooler at some point, (to make ready for upgrades).

unless you're getting at the minimum a 240mm rad, then they're simply not worth the money unless you're working in a form factor where you have virtually no space above the cpu socket.

However at that point you're spending upwards of around $80 for a cpu cooler, or almost the same price as the cpu just to cool it, which doesn't make any sense either way, a 1200 doesn't need anything more than even just a 212 evo to get good overclocks. Heck on the stock cooler you can overclock the thing pretty well. If you're absolutely dead set on it being water cooled then get the literal cheapest 240mm out there, like the CM MasterLiquid Lite 240 (link: pcpartpicker.com/product/9gRFf7/cooler-master-masterliquid-lite-240-667-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a20pw-r1) It makes no sense to spend so much though, as a $30 cpu cooler would cool the same for the cpu you have. But, extra internet points for having a watercooled system i guess.

 

40 minutes ago, Filenot said:

I understand that,but I kinda wanna prepair the rig for somat bigger

if that's the case then I can understand a bit more why you would want to spend more for an AIO. Something like a Be Quiet air cooler or Noctua air cooler would be just as effective and considerably quieter under most circumstances, but spending more on the cooler at that point could at least be argued.

 

[Filenot]

1 hour ago, Atmos said:

unless you're getting at the minimum a 240mm rad, then they're simply not worth the money unless you're working in a form factor where you have virtually no space above the cpu socket.

However at that point you're spending upwards of around $80 for a cpu cooler, or almost the same price as the cpu just to cool it, which doesn't make any sense either way, a 1200 doesn't need anything more than even just a 212 evo to get good overclocks. Heck on the stock cooler you can overclock the thing pretty well. If you're absolutely dead set on it being water cooled then get the literal cheapest 240mm out there, like the CM MasterLiquid Lite 240 (link: pcpartpicker.com/product/9gRFf7/cooler-master-masterliquid-lite-240-667-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a20pw-r1) It makes no sense to spend so much though, as a $30 cpu cooler would cool the same for the cpu you have. But, extra internet points for having a watercooled system i guess.

 

if that's the case then I can understand a bit more why you would want to spend more for an AIO. Something like a Be Quiet air cooler or Noctua air cooler would be just as effective and considerably quieter under most circumstances, but spending more on the cooler at that point could at least be argued.

 

I've kinda got an idea for a cooling setup 

 

Top 240 rad (thermaltake water 3.0) with a third backfan (both for intake), and the front has two  exahust fans 

Edited January 9, 2018 by Filenot

[Ωhmbreon]

On 1/8/2018 at 7:48 PM, Filenot said:

My question is could that Handel a run 1800x. I know that seems like a leap, but it's a path I want to explore

Theoretically, yes. The M9a is a 120w TDP cooler, while the 1800x only uses 95w (I think, but no more than 100). I would strongly recommend a better cooler for better thermals. The H5 is a good option if you have the clearance, and the C1 is good if you need a low profile cooler with performance. There are plenty of other options other than Cryorig, but I am not as familiar with them. It is worth a look since many other good choices are also cheaper.